Dramatic weight loss Bonnie Chapman

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igor_kavinski said:
Looks much healthier but one of the side effects is pancreatitis. Not sure if most people would want to risk that.
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Most people shouldn't want to risk that, but many will.

Though I for one am glad we're finally getting widely-ish available drugs that actually work for weight loss, it feels like we're still in this strange half-step where a bunch of candidates work really well for weight loss but then have many side effects.
At the moment, nothing beats weight loss out of sheer will-force (i.e. just eating a lot less and dealing with manageable hunger) but I hope we'll have really decent and risk-free weight loss drugs for all the people who struggle with weight-related diseases.
 
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What is simple for some is not so simple for others, and it certainly can become more difficult once you've passed a certain stage. I can't bring myself to shit on these people for leaning on an aid to help them, but if it makes others feel better to do so, go off, I suppose.
 
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nakedfrog said:
What is simple for some is not so simple for others, and it certainly can become more difficult once you've passed a certain stage. I can't bring myself to shit on these people for leaning on an aid to help them, but if it makes others feel better to do so, go off, I suppose.
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The problem is that people want to lose the weight it took them 10+ years to gain, in 3 months. That's just not possible. It took a long time to put it on, it's going to take a long time to take it off the natural way.

Taking the shortcut of taking a drug to lose weight is not going to teach you anything. It's not going to make you change your eating habits and eat a healthy diet.

It's the same thing as fad diets. All of this is a temporary solution to a long term problem. It doesn't work out long term. But I'd argue that taking a drug is much worse than a crash diet, due to all of the side effects.

Instead of giving these people drugs, why don't we just educate them on the healthy way to lose it through exercise and diet, which is a lifestyle change that will be better for them long term?

And yes, I'm sorry, it is sheer laziness for about 99% of the people out there who got fat and are trying to lose weight, but can't stick to a plan of diet and exercise to lose it.

Exercising is called "working" out for a reason. It takes work. And work isn't always fun or easy. But it's doable for everyone.
 
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You can call it "laziness" all you want but the simple fact is all humans are different, we aren't all inherently gifted with the exact same amount of willpower and discipline, and we don't all lead lives that make it simple to do as you suggest. I completely reject the notion that "it is sheer laziness for about 99% of people", there are many confounding factors. Again, just don't be a dick about people who are using medical aids, I think these weight loss drugs are a better solution than undergoing surgery for a gastric sleeve.
To my understanding, people on these drugs simply don't have the desire to eat as much as they used to; I think it's entirely plausible that this in itself will lead to a long-term change in habits because they'll become accustomed to eating less food. I know I'm physically incapable of eating as much as I did when I weighed 300 pounds.
 
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igor_kavinski said:
What did your transformation journey involve?
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I took the slow and steady route, I just started out by eating less, the first 50 pounds were fairly easy that way, in a year or two. After that I did start actually paying attention to calories and macros, made sure each meal had a decent amount of protein. Didn't really start adding exercise (just walking) until I was under 200. Had one very stressful year where I backslid and gained 20 back, and spent the next year losing it again. In the first year or two I did have some sugar cravings that were just as potent as cigarette cravings are.
 
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nakedfrog said:
I took the slow and steady route, I just started out by eating less, the first 50 pounds were fairly easy that way, in a year or two. After that I did start actually paying attention to calories and macros, made sure each meal had a decent amount of protein. Didn't really start adding exercise (just walking) until I was under 200. Had one very stressful year where I backslid and gained 20 back, and spent the next year losing it again. In the first year or two I did have some sugar cravings that were just as potent as cigarette cravings are.
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Congrats on your weight loss journey. It is pretty apparent you learned to change your lifestyle as well which is good.
 
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