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Deders

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What beta? I thought WHQL was the newest drivers.
Version: 347.09 WHQL
Release Date: 2014.12.23


I want to build my brother a computer from my old hardware and I have 2x5870 and 6970 and I would like to know if it makes sense. He has PS4 but I have no way of knowing if recommending him PC version would be wise because there are no tests.

I think the current WHQL drivers were beta originally, they must have passed certification and made official afterwards, unless it was a mistake in the first place. Funny thing is I got no flickering with the previous drivers, the flickering only happened when I did a clean install of these.

As for the GPU choice if the 5870's only have 1GB of Vram then the 6970 will allow for better textures at the very least. If they are 2GB then that would be the best of both worlds.
 

Lepton87

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I'm guessing not every reviewer has access to GTX Titan's... Let alone two of them.

Maybe it has something to do with the price tag?

Also, did you get SLI working?

Finally, I applaud Nvidia for how well the GTX Titan has held up with it's age... Definitely worth it.

It's working everywhere just not in DA. For a 1000$ card and the fact that there's been no new node there's nothing to applaud NV for especially considering you can buy a card with the same performance for 250$ on the same node.
 

tential

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It's working everywhere just not in DA. For a 1000$ card and the fact that there's been no new node there's nothing to applaud NV for especially considering you can buy a card with the same performance for 250$ on the same node.

That was generally the joke. But won't sit here and bash the GTX Titan, things happen.
 

Lepton87

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That was generally the joke. But won't sit here and bash the GTX Titan, things happen.

I found the issue, turns out it was due to NV generosity in allowing SLI in "windows" to work only on Quattro cards. The game has three options, one is a trap for SLI users. Window, full screen window and full screen. I must have set the game to full screen window during game play somewhere around the time I updated the BIOS. In full screen SLI works. YAY!
ps. I bought two second most overpriced cards ever, I have the full right to bash on it. Second to only Titan Z, that is one masterpiece of ripping off, at least Titan at the time of release and for quite some time afterwards was the best GPU by far, Titan-Z on the other hand was already worse than AMDs card that cost half as much. It still is so good that replacing it doesn't make sense, 980 is not that much faster.
 
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tential

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I found the issue, turns out it was due to NV generosity in allowing SLI in "windows" to work only on Quattro cards. The game has three options, one is a trap for SLI users. Window, full screen window and full screen. I must have set the game to full screen window during game play somewhere around the time I updated the BIOS. In full screen SLI works. YAY!
ps. I bought two second most overpriced cards ever, I have the full right to bash on it. Second to only Titan Z, that is one masterpiece of ripping off, at least Titan at the time of release and for quite some time afterwards was the best GPU by far, Titan-Z on the other hand was already worse than AMDs card that cost half as much. It still is so good that replacing it doesn't make sense, 980 is not that much faster.

I didn't want to bash your purchase but if we're bashing the GTX Titan....
Personally, the GTX Titan was a joke of a card. It's a shame people actually felt they were getting something worthwhile for that $1000. Even worse for those who bought more than 1. It held up in no type of way, and Nvidia further pissed on the owners of the card with the GTX 780Ti. Then, to throw salt in the wound, it decided to completely ignore Kepler for the last couple of months with driver updates, only optimizing for Maxwell while the GTX Titan struggles against the R9 290 in many games.
http--www.gamegpu.ru-images-stories-Test_GPU-Videocards-game_2014-video-test-games__2014_1920.jpg

It's barely that far ahead of a GTX 780 even.\
Up the resolution and you see how even more of a joke the card was.

But even more annoying isn't that it had poor performance for it's price. It's that people continue to cry about it as if Nvidia ripped them off. As if they didn't get a chance to see the benchmarks. Owners of the card knew full well it was overpriced, yet some still have the audacity to whine about the card's performance, rather than accept that Nvidia didn't release the GTX Titan at $1000 because they felt the performance justified that price tag, but simply because it would be the first to launch at that price tag.

Don't reward people for price gouging the living hell out of you, then whine about it later.

Just my 2 cents though, since we're bashing the GTX Titan...
 

Lepton87

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I bought the other one for half the price so I don't think I over-payed(before Maxwell debuted) for the second one I'm only pissed about NV abandoning Kepler with the drivers improvements but it think they pissed a lot of enthusiasts about it at least the sensible ones and not green goblins who can't see reason and who would argue until they are red in the face that GTX680 is so much better than 7970. For the next generation of cards I'm going to buy from AMD that's for sure for neglecting kepler. 780ti or even Titan shouldn't be slower than 970, period.

ps. something wrong with that chart, why 280X is so much better than 7970? 290X better than 780Ti? Every site claimed that 780Ti is the faster card by at least 15%.... 295 so slow? That also doesn't make sense... Considering that my overclocked titans are about on par with 780SLI that chart doesn't make my cards look bad againt AMDs card, on the contrary. 285 has a pathetic showing. It seems they chose at least a couple of games where CF doesn't work, see how 7990 does? It shouldn't be that slow. It should be at least on par with the best single cards.
UPDATE: I found what I've been looking for

http--www.gamegpu.ru-images-stories-Test_GPU-RPG-dragon_age_inquisition-test-DragonAgeInquisition_2560.jpg


Kepler scales just fine. Also notice the tahiti, it's almost on par with the GK110. Notice how much 7990 demolishes 690. There's one thing I don't get, why 280X is so much better than 7970? 34fps and 37fps and that's new gen? Titan, 290X and 970 for all intents and purposes on par. I don't trust minimums without a graph. I hope newer games will also look like that and not 970 outperforming 780ti
 
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Lepton87

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Radeon paradoxically always wanted more CPU grunt than NV but I didn't realize how much more:

http--www.gamegpu.ru-images-stories-Test_GPU-RPG-dragon_age_inquisition-test-DragonAgeInquisition_proz_amd.jpg


http--www.gamegpu.ru-images-stories-Test_GPU-RPG-dragon_age_inquisition-test-DragonAgeInquisition_proz_proz.jpg


Mantle only helps close the gap.

http--www.gamegpu.ru-images-stories-Test_GPU-RPG-dragon_age_inquisition-test-DragonAgeInquisition_proz_mantle.jpg



At last 6 cores put to good use, thanks to that AMD CPUs are actually competitive with mainstream Intel CPUs.
 
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Lepton87

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Its the 925 mhz 7970 (not the 7970 Ghz edition).

I thought 280X wasn't GHz either. Is it?

UPDATE: oh, it is but with boost only. 7970GHz is still the fastest 1/1.05 AFAIR

ps. Any idea why they put that windowed full screen?
 
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Deders

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I didn't want to bash your purchase but if we're bashing the GTX Titan....
Personally, the GTX Titan was a joke of a card. It's a shame people actually felt they were getting something worthwhile for that $1000. Even worse for those who bought more than 1. It held up in no type of way, and Nvidia further pissed on the owners of the card with the GTX 780Ti. Then, to throw salt in the wound, it decided to completely ignore Kepler for the last couple of months with driver updates, only optimizing for Maxwell while the GTX Titan struggles against the R9 290 in many games.

Wasn't the Titan aimed at the semi professional market with double precision shaders not disabled? Did it have EEC memory like Quadro's?
 

Lepton87

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Wasn't the Titan aimed at the semi professional market with double precision shaders not disabled? Did it have EEC memory like Quadro's?

Full DP yes but no ECC so it is in no man's land.

ps. This game is ridiculous, it's the third time I had to mod this freaking game to work in English. They are intentionally trying to block me from playing this game in English and are forcing a very sub-par localization down my throat. Pathetic!
 
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