Draft Question

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: Stratago
What could happen in the near future, a plausable event, that would cause a draft? and how much time would I have to get to Canada in that case?

Pack and leave now - Apparently that you do not feel that this country is worth supporting nor appreciate the sacrifice that others have given to allow you to act like a spolied brat.:brokenheart:

Supporting the state is not supporting the country. I hate this fallacy.

Yup yup!

Modern day governments are criminals, who execute crimes for which ordinary citizens would be incarcerated, and perhaps even executed, are legalized and even considered "admirable" when carried out under the color of state authority. Sociopathic behavior, such as murder and robbery, are simply repackaged as "war" and "taxation" and touted as our collective moral duty.

 

[Zebo]

Oh BTW- Never ever never worry about a draft -- If they had one it would make the 1940's look like the late sixties. I could'nt see anyone going in for it, unless of course the war was in self-defense as war should be.

They'll continue to rely on impoverished and non-college bound youth and pay them more and more if they have to.

 

[TraumaRN]

I totally agree with you Zebo, it definitely happens here in Michigan...(and Canada is 15 minutes away from me BTW) but most of the kids I know who are fighting in Iraq are doing so cuz they werent in college and got sucked in by the relentless attack of the recruiters in the area, they've called me TWICE since I came back from college, mind you I'm a junior in college in nursing school, apparently they are desparate for medics and such because of all the wounded in Iraq, sad situation really.

And as someone pointed out earlier, you can support our troops, but you dont have support that sack of lies we call a war. I suppose it's quite frightening that more people care about the Michael Jackson trial and verdict than the "Downing Street Memo" or the fact that Congress was discussing pulling out of Iraq today, or at least a timetable to pull out, Linkage

 

[Zebo]

Oh never mind sorry misinterpreted your post

 

[TraumaRN]

Oh I never said I was going to go, and I agree neither is worth getting shot at, rather I'm going to stay in the hospital where I just got hired as a Nurse's Aide(then work as an RN when I graduate) which is Detroit Receiving Hospital, around here we refer to working at that hospital as getting your combat pay just because they are the first hospital in line to receive any sort of trauma(gunshots, stabbing, etc etc) and generally there is a line just to get into the ER and OR....I'd rather help my fellow man here and heal them here, then go 11,000 miles away to do the same thing AND get shot at, I know 3 people who've been to Iraq and back and none of them particularly enjoyed it or have any desire to return.

 

[Jediab]

"I keep saying that, yet the RW chicken*h*ts don't listen. Either they're "too busy", "have too many important things to do", are brain-dead, or a multitude of other hollow excuses"

I love typical Moonbat statements like this. It makes me laugh and laugh to no end.

Thanks!

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Originally posted by: Jediab
"I keep saying that, yet the RW chicken*h*ts don't listen. Either they're "too busy", "have too many important things to do", are brain-dead, or a multitude of other hollow excuses"

I love typical Moonbat statements like this. It makes me laugh and laugh to no end.

Thanks!

So what's your excuse?

BTW, I shake my head at typical moonbat statements like those in your sig. They don't make me laugh, they make me wonder what cave is missing an occupant.

 

[Jediab]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus

Originally posted by: Jediab
"I keep saying that, yet the RW chicken*h*ts don't listen. Either they're "too busy", "have too many important things to do", are brain-dead, or a multitude of other hollow excuses"

I love typical Moonbat statements like this. It makes me laugh and laugh to no end.

Thanks!

So what's your excuse?

BTW, I shake my head at typical moonbat statements like those in your sig. They don't make me laugh, they make me wonder what cave is missing an occupant.

LOL! Keep em coming Moonbat!

 

[Gigantopithecus]

And your excuse...?

 

[Jediab]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
And your excuse...?

Why should I have to explain myself to a Moonbat? Nothing I say will make any difference to you.

But please keep em coming. Its nice to have a good laugh.

 

[NeenerNeener]

" Liberals - Doing Satan's work one law at a time. "

Woh. So..you think you're doing God's work? I'd call myself a God-fearing person, but I gotta say. They have medication for that.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Honestly, I'm interested in hearing why you don't volunteer to bolster the military's sagging ranks.

Of course, if you told an Army recruiter you think liberals are Satan incarnate, that might exclude you.

 

[NeenerNeener]

BTW, according to Scott Ritter, we will be bombing Iran soon. You know, kinda like we were bombing Iraq before we went to the U.N? Tic-Tac-Toe. X in the middle.

 

[Jediab]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
Honestly, I'm interested in hearing why you don't volunteer to bolster the military's sagging ranks.

Of course, if you told an Army recruiter you think liberals are Satan incarnate, that might exclude you.

My excuse? I dont need one. I enlisted in the Navy back in 91, but was discharged for medical reasons.

As for my sigs, they are extreme but since when has subtlety been important here?

 

[cwjerome]

Originally posted by: Aegeon

Originally posted by: jackschmittusa
Active conflict with N. korea.

Depends on what sort of exact conflict you mean, but any realistic one isn't going to involve the US initiating things when we're still heavily involved in Iraq. If North Korea invades South Korea, the South Korean military forces are capable of dealing with North Korea on their own. South Korea has an active military of over 500,000 and over 3 million troops in reserves. They also have far superior weaponry to North Korea's, which is mostly spectacularly obsolete, and the gap is growing more in South Korea's favor all the time. South Korea is capable of defeating a North Korean invasion on its own, and a US draft certainly wouldn't be needed to defeat an invasion.

If there was an all out war on the Korean peninsula more American bodies would not be a factor. The US would simply play a different hand. Nukes would be used before a draft was ever instituted.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Originally posted by: Jediab

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
Honestly, I'm interested in hearing why you don't volunteer to bolster the military's sagging ranks.

Of course, if you told an Army recruiter you think liberals are Satan incarnate, that might exclude you.

My excuse? I dont need one. I enlisted in the Navy back in 91, but was discharged for medical reasons.

As for my sigs, they are extreme but since when has subtlety been important here?

What medical reasons would those be?

 

[Jediab]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus

Originally posted by: Jediab

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
Honestly, I'm interested in hearing why you don't volunteer to bolster the military's sagging ranks.

Of course, if you told an Army recruiter you think liberals are Satan incarnate, that might exclude you.

My excuse? I dont need one. I enlisted in the Navy back in 91, but was discharged for medical reasons.

As for my sigs, they are extreme but since when has subtlety been important here?

What medical reasons would those be?

Migraine headaches.

 

[ntdz]

War in China? The only way we'd have a draft is a direct war against another nation. I personally don't see a plausable event that would cause a draft...

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Originally posted by: Jediab

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus

Originally posted by: Jediab

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
Honestly, I'm interested in hearing why you don't volunteer to bolster the military's sagging ranks.

Of course, if you told an Army recruiter you think liberals are Satan incarnate, that might exclude you.

My excuse? I dont need one. I enlisted in the Navy back in 91, but was discharged for medical reasons.

As for my sigs, they are extreme but since when has subtlety been important here?

What medical reasons would those be?

Migraine headaches.

Have you tried cranial trepanation?

 

[Jediab]

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus

Originally posted by: Jediab

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus

Originally posted by: Jediab

Originally posted by: Gigantopithecus
Honestly, I'm interested in hearing why you don't volunteer to bolster the military's sagging ranks.

Of course, if you told an Army recruiter you think liberals are Satan incarnate, that might exclude you.

My excuse? I dont need one. I enlisted in the Navy back in 91, but was discharged for medical reasons.

As for my sigs, they are extreme but since when has subtlety been important here?

What medical reasons would those be?

Migraine headaches.

Have you tried cranial trepanation?

Why would I try something like that?

 

[Gigantopithecus]

It's a technique that was common when your worldviews were. You know, drill a hole in the skull to release the demons.

 

[piasabird]

First things first. The military guy that does the briefings for the pentagon says we have trained 100 Iraqi Battalions and they will have close to 200,000 troops of their own by December 2005. There is no reason for a draft. We have plenty of toops stationed overseas that we could move if we had to. In Fact the reason why we are increasing our enlistment goals is that we have plans for enlarging the armed forces. The pentagon says retention is really high right now.

 

[ForThePeople]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: ForThePeople

Originally posted by: cwjerome

Guess you just have a very religious-oriented perspective... not uncommon for those that fear the Christian boogeyman. BTW, I'm not religious in the least.

You know what else you're not?

You're not in Iraq! If you believe in this war so much go and enlist - the military desperately needs new people.

But that's pretty stupid. You don't have to be 100% directly involved in whatever you support.

No, it's not. We're not talking recreational chess here - we're talking war. There are good, decent Americans who are getting shot at and blown up in Iraq. Our military needs new people desperately.

Sure, it's easy to sit here and enjoy fantasies of American empire when you get to go send other people's children off to die.

War is a last resort, not some Saturday night poker game with a $5 ante. If you really support it then you better be damn willing to serve and not hide behind your keyboard while other people duck bullets.

 

[TraumaRN]

Originally posted by: piasabird
First things first. The military guy that does the briefings for the pentagon says we have trained 100 Iraqi Battalions and they will have close to 200,000 troops of their own by December 2005. There is no reason for a draft. We have plenty of toops stationed overseas that we could move if we had to. In Fact the reason why we are increasing our enlistment goals is that we have plans for enlarging the armed forces. The pentagon says retention is really high right now.

Could you so politely provide some links to back that information up?? Cuz I keep up on the war I havent heard about the 200,000 trained Iraqi soldiers...last I heard they were fighting just to keep morale up because the insurgents are targeting them more and more, and also I'm interested if when the US Govt says those numbers it includes police officiers....just a thought

 

[irwincur]

Even more funny is that only about 10% of the US armed fighting forces are in Iraq? And some people say that we are stretched too thin. 13 of more than 67 battalions of army and marine soldiers are in the ME (with guards and reserves). Two of them are in Kuwait as well as another two in Afghanistan and another one in Kasikstan/bordering nations. Leaving drumroll... eight in Iraq.

My god, eight out of 67 battalions are in Iraq. We need a draft NOW. I can't believe that we can continue this fight with only 90% percent of our forces free. How are we ever going to make it.

We might as well surrendur when we hit the 11% mark - I mean that must mean we will be stretched reaaaaaaaaaaly thin.



Another reason to ignore the media and their lame attempts at defeating the American military - again.