Dr Laura says the N word and apologizes Edit: She's quiting

[Red Dawn]

nope look at the wingnut Pelosi for wanting to investigate the people who oppose the mosque.

No shit, you'd think she was a follower of Joe McCarthy, a well known Leftist and Democrat...no wait...


Pelosi is drunk on power and needs to go for the good of her party and the good of the country.

 

[Moonbeam]

Good riddance.



Wait, she's quitting a national radio show where she does nothing but air her views every day so that she can regain her First Amendment rights? 😕

WHAAAAA, I want to say great person on the radio but the nasty sponsors don't want me to. I'll stick it to them and retire to teach them a lesson.

I am beginning to really like you.

 

[werepossum]

I'm thinking that if you're a radio advice expert and you have a black caller who is obviously racially over-sensitive and then you use the "N" word repeatedly, maybe radio advice expert isn't really your thing anyway. Perhaps "blunt object" would be a better career choice . . .

Since I hated her program and since there is zero chance of my local talk radio station switching to carry her Twitter and/or Facebook accounts, I heartily approve of this retirement.

 

[sandorski]

Only listened until first commercial break. Her use of the N Word didn't seem offensive in the least, but pretty much the first thing she commented on was very wrong. That is, if someone regularly asks a Black person, "What do you Black people think about..." is definitely a Racist comment. Now it's not a harsh Racism, more like Soft Racism, the kind that is more annoying than offensive.

Though she was wrong on that point, it certainly wasn't Offensively wrong. It was more like just being uselessly wrong. Certainly not something worthy of being Fired over.

Then again I couldn't be bothered to listen to the whole exchange. Most of these Pop Advice experts are not worth the time and as such Dr Laura being off the air is probably a Good whether she deserved it or not.

 

[classy]

Only listened until first commercial break. Her use of the N Word didn't seem offensive in the least, but pretty much the first thing she commented on was very wrong. That is, if someone regularly asks a Black person, "What do you Black people think about..." is definitely a Racist comment. Now it's not a harsh Racism, more like Soft Racism, the kind that is more annoying than offensive.

Though she was wrong on that point, it certainly wasn't Offensively wrong. It was more like just being uselessly wrong. Certainly not something worthy of being Fired over.

Then again I couldn't be bothered to listen to the whole exchange. Most of these Pop Advice experts are not worth the time and as such Dr Laura being off the air is probably a Good whether she deserved it or not.

LOL I like you how put that. Harsh and soft racism. Thats cool, I never heard anyone put it that way. 🙂

 

[ch33zw1z]

Well they're hear it without parents having to teach it to them.

Also, they'll definitely learn it in US History or whatever.

Tell me about it. i was taking a walk with my 4 year old at the mall the other day and a black chick was yelling into her cell phone: "I'll fuck that great person up, great person please" direct quote, and it kept on going...he's never heard it from me and I'll let everyone know where he learned it when I'm in that parent teacher conference in a couple years 🙂

on the original topic. I agree with her original point overall, the caller was over sensitive to begin with, but the host took it a bit to far..

 

[JulesMaximus]

I am beginning to really like you.

I'm guessing her ratings were slipping because people aren't buying her bullshit anymore and she was getting pressure from "above"

 

[Darwin333]

Tell me about it. i was taking a walk with my 4 year old at the mall the other day and a black chick was yelling into her cell phone: "I'll fuck that great person up, great person please" direct quote, and it kept on going...he's never heard it from me and I'll let everyone know where he learned it when I'm in that parent teacher conference in a couple years 🙂

on the original topic. I agree with her original point overall, the caller was over sensitive to begin with, but the host took it a bit to far..

Nah, she just doesn't have any black friends who have explained the proper etiquite to her. See, as it has been explained to me numerous times by my black friends (i am generally the token white friend, not the other way around but its cool, black folk throw some seriously fun parties), "great person" is an offensive word usually used by white folk in a derogatory way. "awesome dude" (notice the lack of the "er" sound at the end) is slang for "my friend". If she would have pronounced it correctly she probably wouldn't be catching flack from most black folk. The white folk would probably still be offended though which really doesn't make sense to me but whatever.

Then again, maybe thats just a N'awlins thing. I am not responsible for any asswhoopings you might catch if you test the above out. There is a whole "attitude" thing that goes along with it too. You gotta go all in, if you look nervous or unsure then they are gonna think you're fucking with them and it might not work out so well.

As far as her quitting, shrug, I am fresh out of give a fuck. Sorry, I have never listened to her and it just doesn't concern me in the least.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Nah, she just doesn't have any black friends who have explained the proper etiquite to her. See, as it has been explained to me numerous times by my black friends (i am generally the token white friend, not the other way around but its cool, black folk throw some seriously fun parties), "great person" is an offensive word usually used by white folk in a derogatory way. "awesome dude" (notice the lack of the "er" sound at the end) is slang for "my friend". If she would have pronounced it correctly she probably wouldn't be catching flack from most black folk. The white folk would probably still be offended though which really doesn't make sense to me but whatever.

Then again, maybe thats just a N'awlins thing. I am not responsible for any asswhoopings you might catch if you test the above out. There is a whole "attitude" thing that goes along with it too. You gotta go all in, if you look nervous or unsure then they are gonna think you're fucking with them and it might not work out so well.

As far as her quitting, shrug, I am fresh out of give a fuck. Sorry, I have never listened to her and it just doesn't concern me in the least.

Thanks, growing up in the city I know all about the etiquette and have had a few debates with black/white/spanish people about this very topic. So MO= fuck that, it doesn't matter which way someone says it. Saying that word as a white person, such as myself, is just looking for trouble(I've also met/known white people who are influenced/grew up in/accepted and get a free pass). Saying that word as a black person stinks of ignorance and lack of self respect, regardless of the way it's said. Do black people who use the word even think about where it came from? My guess is no...

edit: BTW, I've been call cracker/whitey/*insert white slang word here* more times than I can count, but I am not the type of person to care. I laugh it off and it usually ends up ok 🙂 The caller in the OP is way to sensitive, like so many cry baby Americans today.

 

[shortylickens]

Calling naggers naggers is always acceptable.
If they dont like it they can start acting like blacks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui6-Wc0PDc4

 

[Darwin333]

Thanks, growing up in the city I know all about the etiquette and have had a few debates with black/white/spanish people about this very topic. So MO= fuck that, it doesn't matter which way someone says it. Saying that word as a white person, such as myself, is just looking for trouble(I've also met/known white people who are influenced/grew up in/accepted and get a free pass). Saying that word as a black person stinks of ignorance and lack of self respect, regardless of the way it's said. Do black people who use the word even think about where it came from? My guess is no...

edit: BTW, I've been call cracker/whitey/*insert white slang word here* more times than I can count, but I am not the type of person to care. I laugh it off and it usually ends up ok 🙂 The caller in the OP is way to sensitive, like so many cry baby Americans today.

Completely agree with the "fuck that" even though I often could get away with it and it wouldn't be offensive in anyway. I figure eventually someone will be in the room that will get offended and frankly it ain't worth catching (or giving) an asswhoopin over. I just found it was funny as all hell when it was "broken down" for me and then confirmed.

As far as the ignorence and lack of self respect, one guy told me that he thought of it as a big "Fuck you" to the racist bastards who actually used the term. Sort of making fun of and marginalizing anyone who would use the word (with an er of course). He sorta had a point I guess (remember when "bad"=good... kinda like that). Personally, I don't really care that much about that one, I figure black folk have been fucked over enough that if they want a word all to their own I say fuck it, let em have it. OTOH, the "uncle tom" shit really has to go because it actually does do some real damage when a young and impressionable child is taught that succeeding in life is a bad thing. Just my opinion...

 

[Throckmorton]

Thanks, growing up in the city I know all about the etiquette and have had a few debates with black/white/spanish people about this very topic. So MO= fuck that, it doesn't matter which way someone says it. Saying that word as a white person, such as myself, is just looking for trouble(I've also met/known white people who are influenced/grew up in/accepted and get a free pass). Saying that word as a black person stinks of ignorance and lack of self respect, regardless of the way it's said. Do black people who use the word even think about where it came from? My guess is no...

edit: BTW, I've been call cracker/whitey/*insert white slang word here* more times than I can count, but I am not the type of person to care. I laugh it off and it usually ends up ok 🙂 The caller in the OP is way to sensitive, like so many cry baby Americans today.

Give me a break. "Cracker" isn't a slur anymore (it originally referred to POOR whites), and I doubt "whitey" was ever a slur. "Redneck" can be. Like I said, I'm not going to go up to some working class Southern white guy and say "You redneck" or "piece of white trash" or anything like that, because it would be a slur. It's not the same as Jeff Foxworthy telling redneck jokes. Do you really not understand the difference?

 

[Genx87]

So I finally listened to this. Really? That was it? She was using an example of how race gets away with using an offensive word. Then what happens? Because she wasnt the right race she is quitting for using an offensive word. Way to prove her point lmao.

That said, her being a bitch? Has anybody listened to her? I never understood why anybody would call into her show. She tears them all a new asshole.

 

[Moonbeam]

So I finally listened to this. Really? That was it? She was using an example of how race gets away with using an offensive word. Then what happens? Because she wasnt the right race she is quitting for using an offensive word. Way to prove her point lmao.

That said, her being a bitch? Has anybody listened to her? I never understood why anybody would call into her show. She tears them all a new asshole.

You actually know nothing about the masochism of self hate?

 

[Genx87]

You actually know nothing about the masochism of self hate?

Everything I know on the subject is learned through your drug induced ramblings.

 

[Moonbeam]

Everything I know on the subject is learned through your drug induced ramblings.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2048208&page=2

 

[Darwin333]

Give me a break. "Cracker" isn't a slur anymore (it originally referred to POOR whites), and I doubt "whitey" was ever a slur. "Redneck" can be. Like I said, I'm not going to go up to some working class Southern white guy and say "You redneck" or "piece of white trash" or anything like that, because it would be a slur. It's not the same as Jeff Foxworthy telling redneck jokes. Do you really not understand the difference?

Or Chris Rock telling great person (or awesome dude sometimes) jokes...

Its all about the intent these days, which was kinda my point. It is societies way of saying "fuck you" to the people that use those racial slurs.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Give me a break. "Cracker" isn't a slur anymore (it originally referred to POOR whites), and I doubt "whitey" was ever a slur. "Redneck" can be. Like I said, I'm not going to go up to some working class Southern white guy and say "You redneck" or "piece of white trash" or anything like that, because it would be a slur. It's not the same as Jeff Foxworthy telling redneck jokes. Do you really not understand the difference?

lol...yea, I don't get it at all.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Or Chris Rock telling great person (or awesome dude sometimes) jokes...

Its all about the intent these days, which was kinda my point. It is societies way of saying "fuck you" to the people that use those racial slurs.

Intent doesn't mean anything if you're white. And if you're black it seems you can say ANYthing you want and it doesn't matter. My point was it doesn't matter how some words are used, it still makes people sound ignorant....and in most cases they are, whether or not like want to admit it to themselves.

 

[woolfe9999]

Or Chris Rock telling great person (or awesome dude sometimes) jokes...

Its all about the intent these days, which was kinda my point. It is societies way of saying "fuck you" to the people that use those racial slurs.

Yes intent is what really matters, and yes the term is sometimes used by blacks in part to steal it's derogatory power away from whites by turning into an innocuous term to represent familiarity among homies. It's less well known, but gays sometimes refer to each other as "queer" and "fagot." I've known several gays who do that.

- wolf

 

[JulesMaximus]

I liked what this woman had to say about the whole Dr Laura flap.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/0...-race-begs-the-question-just-who-needs-a-doc/

Dr. Laura's Rant on Race Begs the Question: Just Who Needs a Doctor?

What kind of doctor is this woman, and why is she still on the radio?

After scrubbing her show's website of the foul rant that prompted outrage -- and lives on in audio and transcript form on Media Matters for America -- Laura Schlessinger apologized. "I articulated the N-word all the way out -- more than one time," she said. "And that was wrong."

Show's over; time to move on? I don't think so.

Professional to professional, Dr. Laura, let Dr. Mary explain why, as offensive as it was, saying the N-word is the least of your problems.

A young black woman calls into your show to get some actual advice about a specific problem: her white husband's family and friends insult her using racist terms and epithets. "My husband ignores those comments, and it hurts my feelings," the caller says.

So, of course, Dr. Laura, you start talking about -- President Barack Obama.

"Without giving much thought, a lot of blacks voted for Obama simply 'cause he was half-black," she said. "Didn't matter what he was gonna do in office, it was a black thing. You gotta know that."

Not only do you ignore the caller and change the subject to get to something that's obviously on your mind and in your heart, Dr. Laura, but you also insist you know the motivation of millions of black voters.

It's not the first time I've heard this ridiculous canard that black people voted for the president based simply on skin color. It assumes that only voters who aren't African-American use logic, reasoning and rational thought before reaching a conclusion. Maybe, just maybe, most African-American voters preferred the policies in the Democratic Party's platform. Did they vote overwhelmingly for Bill Clinton because they liked his smile? Did Al Gore -- another popular candidate with black voters -- wave shiny beads before their faces to mesmerize them? And, of course, Dr. Laura fails to mention that others might have voted against Obama for the same reason.

"We've got a black man as president, and we have more complaining about racism than ever. I mean, I think that's hilarious."

Yes, Dr. Laura. A black man is in the White House, so black folks should just stop complaining when people call them names, ridicule them and discriminate against them. Like you, I just can't stop laughing.

Once you get that out of your system, you return to the young woman, who asks what you, as an advice maven, think about the N-word.

"Black guys use it all the time. Turn on HBO, listen to a black comic, and all you hear is..." And you don't stop there, Dr. Laura. As everyone knows by now, you then launch into an N-word litany, using the word often, leisurely, lovingly, without hesitation. Judging how trippingly it rolls off your tongue, I don't think it's the first time you've said it. Most people I know of every race can't say the word out loud -- it sticks in their throats. You, on the other hand, take a commercial break, come back and say it some more.

You don't seem to understand why people are shocked and disgusted by your behavior. Perhaps it's time for a history lesson.

This is the word that people with ropes used as they lynched men and women for an afternoon's entertainment. This is the word craven politicians shouted to stoke racial fear. This word has been used as background music to terror, which someone of your age and education must know.

Yet, you, Dr. Laura, are upset that this is one word that you cannot utter. For more reasons why, I recommend you listen to the anti-racist writer and activist Tim Wise, who says in response to that very question that "as a white person I will not bear the consequences of whatever decision black folks make about when, if and how to use the word."

"The history of that word in the mouths of white people is not a mixed history." Wise asks, is there a double standard, before answering yes. "History has been a double standard," he says, so you better get over it.

Most black people I know hate the word and never use it. The NAACP, which you managed to turn into a derogatory verb during your rant (nice trick, that) symbolically buried the N-word several years ago, so corrosive is its power. The late, great Richard Pryor, an early practitioner in his comedy routines, stopped using it after a trip to Africa. "To this day I wish I'd never said the word," he said. "I felt its lameness. It was misunderstood by people. They didn't get what I was talking about. Neither did I. . . . So I vowed never to say it again."

In the face of all this evidence, I wonder, Dr. Laura, how you've come to the conclusion that comedians on R-rated cable television shows set the tone for polite interaction between the races. How many doctors and lawyers -- of any color -- grocery clerks, teachers and nurses have you heard using the words you just used on the radio? Just who are you hanging out with? On second thought, Dr. Laura, I don't think I want to know.

By this time, the young woman who called you must be pretty sorry she turned to Dr. Laura for advice. (Remind me never to come to you when I have a problem.)

When you get back to her and her specific issue of dealing with her husband's white friends and family members' use of racial insults in her presence, your solution is -- to make it her fault.

"You know what? If you're that hypersensitive about color and don't have a sense of humor, don't marry out of your race. If you're going to marry out of your race, people are going to say, 'OK, what do blacks think? What do whites think? What do Jews think? What do Catholics think?'"

Now Dr. Laura, I am an African-American woman married to an American of Norwegian, English and Irish descent. When our large and diverse families get together on, for example, Thanksgiving, we eat turkey, watch football and tell jokes, though never the ones that ridicule or single out blacks, whites, Italians, Jews, Catholics, Poles, homosexuals or any other group. And you know what, Dr. Laura? We have a lot of fun.

But then, that's just us.

 

[TheVrolok]

... snip ...

Unfortunately, it's a bit more complicated than simply intent. A white person (in most cases) can still not use "awesome dude" affectionately with a black person and NOT be called a racist/scorned for it.

 

[skyofavalon]

has the healing process started yet