Dr Laura says the N word and apologizes Edit: She's quiting

[Moonbeam]

Check it out here: A caution requested by werepossum:

Brace for a picture of a creature with a six foot sticky tongue.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/08/13/dr.laura.rant/?hpt=C1

I listened carefully to what she said and I agree with her first defense. I'll be the f worded if I can see it. I am surprised she backed down later and recanted what she said. I think her use of the word was justified by the context.

So, having learned to be paranoid reading P & N, I am betting she was told to apologize or lose her job.

Am I as out to lunch as she says she was that first time? Just in case, I will put the question thus:

Is it wrong to use the n work in expanded form if you are quoting how some blacks refer to each other?

 

[LunarRay]

Check it out here:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/08/13/dr.laura.rant/?hpt=C1

I listened carefully to what she said and I agree with her first defense. I'll be the f worded if I can see it. I am surprised she backed down later and recanted what she said. I think her use of the word was justified by the context.

So, having learned to be paranoid reading P & N, I am betting she was told to apologize or lose her job.

Am I as out to lunch as she says she was that first time? Just in case, I will put the question thus:

Is it wrong to use the n work in expanded form if you are quoting how some blacks refer to each other?

The premise is quoting someone... A direct quote relays the statement of another not of the person doing the quoting. So, imo, and therefore, She should not appologize over the usage of the 'n' word but may do so regarding the topic she chose to introduce that contained that word... or that being exact might not have been the prudent thing to do if it did not have to be exact to convey all elements of the quote.
I've no interest in what folks refer to themselves as... And I think to call someone a cheapo person loses context in any event... ()

 

[1prophet]

It's the old saying "I can talk about my brother but you can't"


The unwritten rule of talk shows, if you want to discuss a topic that may be offensive to black people have a guest black person on your show do the quoting or other talking points that a white person can easily be misconstrued as racist or racially insensitive.

Likewise with asians, jews, hispanics, etc. have someone of the like race/background do the talking that might appear on the surface to be racially/culturally insensitive if done by someone else.

 

[LumbergTech]

her original argument was ok, but then she made multiple racist comments in succession

telling people the conditions for which they should marry out of their race

referring to "black think" as if there is such a thing etc

 

[highland145]

cracker.

 

[classy]

Is there a link to the phone call and what she said. I always like to judge for myself.

Oops, I played the whole link. Yikes, umm she went to far. And when are people going to realize that black comedians and brothers on the corner are not representative of blacks. In my house you better not use that word. That gets you a slap from moms. I am guilty. Very often when I am chatting it up with one of my boys that word will come up. The problem with whites like in this instance, it comes off as if they are calling people awesome people by proxy.

It sounded like Dr. Laura right away didn't like the fact this black woman was married to a white man. I didn't hear anything in that conversation that warranted her to use great person as an example. Some whites use examples of so-call racial insensitivity among blacks as way to deflect from the situation. What a black comedian has said or done had nothing to do with this womans view point.

 

[LumbergTech]

Is there a link to the phone call and what she said. I always like to judge for myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YykeyNvj-EQ

 

[MJinZ]

Check it out here:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/08/13/dr.laura.rant/?hpt=C1

I listened carefully to what she said and I agree with her first defense. I'll be the f worded if I can see it. I am surprised she backed down later and recanted what she said. I think her use of the word was justified by the context.

So, having learned to be paranoid reading P & N, I am betting she was told to apologize or lose her job.

Am I as out to lunch as she says she was that first time? Just in case, I will put the question thus:

Is it wrong to use the n work in expanded form if you are quoting how some blacks refer to each other?

Absolutely OK, but the way she did was excessive and derisive (whether it was her intent or not). She could have used one instance of Nagger instead of three repeated ones.

 

[classy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YykeyNvj-EQ

Thanks I got it.

You know sometimes I view the use of great person like any other vulgar word. Like you can call your wife a bitch, but somebody else better not do it. Its a tough tough thing, because the word has been whether rightly or not used in everyday language that is not meant to demean.

 

[StageLeft]

How are we supposed to let our kids know what the n-word is if we don't outright say n1gger? It's so ridiculous over the top the fear of using that word.

 

[LumbergTech]

Thanks I got it.

You know sometimes I view the use of great person like any other vulgar word. Like you can call your wife a bitch, but somebody else better not do it. Its a tough tough thing, because the word has been whether rightly or not used in everyday language that is not meant to demean.

Dr. Laura may have been quoting someone else, although not a a specific person, but that does not address what the caller was talking about. She had no idea if the caller thought it was appropriate for blacks to call each other a great person or not. I think it is fine to say the word in the appropriate context. You can also freely talk about rape, but that doesn't mean you should go around saying rape constantly. You can, but it doesn't necessarily make you a pleasant person.

 

[classy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YykeyNvj-EQ

Ok......man that was deep. You wasn't totally wrong. You marry out of your race, you better not be hyper-sensitive. But her she went to town. A lot of that stuff she said was uncalled for.

 

[MJinZ]

How are we supposed to let our kids know what the n-word is if we don't outright say n1gger? It's so ridiculous over the top the fear of using that word.

Well they're hear it without parents having to teach it to them.

Also, they'll definitely learn it in US History or whatever.

 

[lsquare]

Check it out here:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/08/13/dr.laura.rant/?hpt=C1

I listened carefully to what she said and I agree with her first defense. I'll be the f worded if I can see it. I am surprised she backed down later and recanted what she said. I think her use of the word was justified by the context.

So, having learned to be paranoid reading P & N, I am betting she was told to apologize or lose her job.

Am I as out to lunch as she says she was that first time? Just in case, I will put the question thus:

Is it wrong to use the n work in expanded form if you are quoting how some blacks refer to each other?

This isn't about the context in which she said it. If you watch AC 360 last night when they showed the entire clip, it is absolutely clear that Laura was being very insensitive. The caller was calling to ask for help and Laura was just being a bitch. We live in a society where it is necessary to be politically correct. What was the point to mention the N-word that many times on the show? I know she's trying to highlight the hypocrisy where black people seem to be able to say the word without consequences, but white people will be vilified for it.

 

[lsquare]

How are we supposed to let our kids know what the n-word is if we don't outright say n1gger? It's so ridiculous over the top the fear of using that word.

It's the history of it. Besides, what's the point of being able to use the word freely? Why don't we just freely use every single racist word that exists in English lexicon? Let's face it, America has a brutal history when it comes to relations between whites and minorities.

 

[Schadenfroh]

America has a brutal history when it comes to relations between whites and minorities.

Are there any non-homogeneous societies that do not have a history of mistreating minorities?

 

[Phokus]

conservatives are terrible people, shocking news at 11

 

[classy]

They slammed my boy Imus and they destroyed Jimmy the Greek. But I bet any amount of money because she is a woman, she'll get cut some slack.

 

[Slew Foot]

Let's face it, America has a brutal history when it comes to relations between whites and minorities.

So does pretty much every other country

 

[Vette73]

They slammed my boy Imus and they destroyed Jimmy the Greek. But I bet any amount of money because she is a woman, she'll get cut some slack.

Laura has been saying stupid things for a long time, this is not new.

 

[hal2kilo]

Is there a link to the phone call and what she said. I always like to judge for myself.

Oops, I played the whole link. Yikes, umm she went to far. And when are people going to realize that black comedians and brothers on the corner are not representative of blacks. In my house you better not use that word. That gets you a slap from moms. I am guilty. Very often when I am chatting it up with one of my boys that word will come up. The problem with whites like in this instance, it comes off as if they are calling people awesome people by proxy.

It sounded like Dr. Laura right away didn't like the fact this black woman was married to a white man. I didn't hear anything in that conversation that warranted her to use great person as an example. Some whites use examples of so-call racial insensitivity among blacks as way to deflect from the situation. What a black comedian has said or done had nothing to do with this womans view point.

My parents were fairly racist, and my grandmother who grew up in South Boston, VA used the term "nigras" when refering to blacks. The n word was strictly forbidden in my house. In those days we used the term colored people.

 

[LunarRay]

They slammed my boy Imus and they destroyed Jimmy the Greek. But I bet any amount of money because she is a woman, she'll get cut some slack.

Oh... my ()

Used to be only 'Blonde' was the accepted ditz like utterer of stupid stuff that could get a pass... now all of them females are... Progress never ceases... heheheheheh

 

[hal2kilo]

Oh... my ()

Used to be only 'Blonde' was the accepted ditz like utterer of stupid stuff that could get a pass... now all of them females are... Progress never ceases... heheheheheh

How do you know? Checked out the carpet?

 

[FerrelGeek]

It's the old saying "I can talk about my brother but you can't"


The unwritten rule of talk shows, if you want to discuss a topic that may be offensive to black people have a guest black person on your show do the quoting or other talking points that a white person can easily be misconstrued as racist or racially insensitive.

Likewise with asians, jews, hispanics, etc. have someone of the like race/background do the talking that might appear on the surface to be racially/culturally insensitive if done by someone else.

But any of those minorities can say anything they want about evil ol' whitey. Yawn. Next topic please.

 

[LunarRay]

My parents were fairly racist, and my grandmother who grew up in South Boston, VA and used the term "nigras" when refering to blacks. The n word was strictly forbidden in my house. In those days we used the term colored people.

When I was a kid growing up in NYC the notion that folks were different because of race, creed or other was not apparent in the language or in the interactions among us all. It seems to me we figured everyone were people. With the exception of the English! To my family they were not people. Hard to actually tell if someone was English, though. You had to ask or find out in due course... But when you did you made every effort to separate them from the rest for special treatment. All because of events that occurred on our little Island over the centuries. Imagine that... having ill feelings today just because the English found many ways to eliminate most of Ireland's personal rights if not its population.
I kinda wish we had a term to assign to them as they did to us. "Mick"... That sounds benign enough... but in the ears of many it brings back the notion and the anger... I can't help but wonder what others feel when folks use terms that are pejorative but in the users mind not meant as such... I guess you pay no attention to it... but does it still not bring forth the prior usage that once defined the thought of a semi-person unfit to have any rights at all?