SlowSpyder
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I hope we put more tariffs on their products.
These guys are smart enough to know what they're doing. Which is, in this case, increasing taxes on American consumers under the false pretense of nativist bullshit.Who could possibly have predicted. It reminds me of when Trump's trade guru Peter Navarro said no country would issue retaliatory tariffs.
I hope we put more tariffs on their products.
What's this "better deal?" Who is this elsewhere that we can get our goods from, and why couldn't do that without a trade war?Look at it this way. We either get a better deal with China and America profits, or we get our goods elsewhere, maybe even domestically as Trump brings back manufacturing to America.
These guys are smart enough to know what they're doing. Which is, in this case, increasing taxes on American consumers under the false pretense of nativist bullshit.
Look at it this way. We either get a better deal with China and America profits, or we get our goods elsewhere, maybe even domestically as Trump brings back manufacturing to America.
This has to be a parody account. I have been pretty much away from this msgboard for the past 2.5 years. Post very sporatic. So some of the faces seem new. But manufacturing is not coming back to the US. At least not like the 1950s manufacturing. It will be fully automated if it does come back.
This has to be a parody account. I have been pretty much away from this msgboard for the past 2.5 years. Post very sporatic. So some of the faces seem new. But manufacturing is not coming back to the US. At least not like the 1950s manufacturing. It will be fully automated if it does come back.
Technically, as a whole, manufacturing never left. We as a country make more than ever before, it's just that we employ less people in the manufacturing due to automation.This has to be a parody account. I have been pretty much away from this msgboard for the past 2.5 years. Post very sporatic. So some of the faces seem new. But manufacturing is not coming back to the US. At least not like the 1950s manufacturing. It will be fully automated if it does come back.
We used to argue in the tech forums, why not here too?
Moved almost a half million 5 months ago into basically a money market fund. I'm set for the crash.I've been taking some of the profits over the past few years and putting into cash waiting for 2008 lite to reinvest.
And that manufacturing still done by people requires a much higher skill level.Technically, as a whole, manufacturing never left. We as a country make more than ever before, it's just that we employ less people in the manufacturing due to automation.
That ship sailed a while back.And that manufacturing still done by people requires a much higher skill level.
When Trump and his supporters talk about manufacturing coming back, they mean the relatively unskilled manufacturing jobs that went overseas coming back.
And no, those are never coming back. Not enough value added.
Moved almost a half million 5 months ago into basically a money market fund. I'm set for the crash.
You know who wins in a trade war between China and the USA? Everyone who isn't China or the USA.Trump acknowledged that the stock market could be and likely would be higher without the trade war. But that's the thing about a war, there are sacrifices until you win, then you come out on top and hopefully in a better place. We didn't start this war, other nations taking advantage of us did. Time to fix things.
Look at it this way. We either get a better deal with China and America profits, or we get our goods elsewhere, maybe even domestically as Trump brings back manufacturing to America.
You know who wins in a trade war between China and the USA? Everyone who isn't China or the USA.
Trade wars don't have winners between the protagonists, both of them end up poorer than they would have before.
China GDP numbers just came in. Shanghai index is green. Looks like they are officially winning the trade war. It will be interesting to see how Larry Kudlow and the triumvirate of imbeciles that run our economy try to spin this.
Here are the China GDP numbers:
GDP (YoY) (Q3) 6.5% actual 6.6% estimated
Industrial Production (YoY) (Sep) 5.8% actual 6.0% est
Retail Sales (YoY) (Sep) 9.2% actual 9.0% est
Fixed Asset Investment (YoY) (Sep) 5.4% actual 5.3% eat
Are you trying to paint 6.5% growth as a bad thing?
Regardless, trade expert, do you have any more thoughts about the Trans Pacific Partnership and its effects on IP theft?
What were the US GDP numbers? 3%? 4%?
What is higher 4% or 6.5%?
Did you pass 4th grade maths?