Dothan @ 2.8 + DFI w/ a little bench info

[classy]

The only problem with doing all that is it would be a new chip . Maybe I am wrong but I think its lights out for Intel for awhile. I just wish they would have allowed the Ich6 to be used with the 865 and 875 chipsets.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Considering board and CPU prices for the setup they are reviewing you can count me out too. low power and heat ain't nearly enough to offset lack of chipset features and well rounded CPU performance IMO. I just wouldn't be surprised to see a new CPU with many enhancements and supporting chipset pop up on the roadmap all of a sudden

 

[VIAN]

The lack of features don't really bum me out because the chip is a hell of a performer in games, it's just the price that bites me.

 

[GnomeCop]

lready have a 2ghz dothan cpu and a 1.7ghz banias, tempted to put the 1.7 in my laptop and give the dothan a try on the desktop.

hopefully we will see some aopen /DFI pentium M mobo comprisons

 

[Zap]

A socket 479 motherboard would be great to have. That way I can upgrade my notebook (Banias 1.3GHz) and take the old CPU and do a mild overclock, and then have a great quiet computer. Would beat the cr@p out of those VIA C3 chips I have, LOL.

 

[Thermalrock]

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024

Originally posted by: Dough1397
a dothan is a mobile p4? correct? and they have lower spees becuase they do mroe work per cycle as opposed to the normal p4? but amd still does more per clock than dothan?

does the dothan support hyper threading? what kinda socket it?

No, the Dothan is a tottally new design from Intel's Israeli team; it is NOT of the P4 design but rather more from the P3 design.

Right now the Dothan is still hindered by a few things (which are dimished, but not eliminated with overclocking) that would give it even more performance.

For starters, it only operates at a (stock) FSB of 100MHz X 4 ... this goes back to the original Northwood days. Overclocking helps this immensely, but if they would be to make faster Dothans with the P4's 200 MHz FSB it could only help.

A more important factor is the P-M's weak FPU performance (compared to the Athlon64). Dothan really needs SSE1 and SSE2 (and, why not, SSE3 as well) to become a desktop FP monster.

It's potential is incredible though, notice that the 2 Ghz Dothan runs effortlessly on cr@ptacular laptop cooling, so obviously that chip has huge headroom just by using a more effective desktop air cooling solution.

hmmm just that the dothan does have sse and sse2 just not 3 which only the prescott has whatever.

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: Thermalrock

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024

Originally posted by: Dough1397
a dothan is a mobile p4? correct? and they have lower spees becuase they do mroe work per cycle as opposed to the normal p4? but amd still does more per clock than dothan?

does the dothan support hyper threading? what kinda socket it?

No, the Dothan is a tottally new design from Intel's Israeli team; it is NOT of the P4 design but rather more from the P3 design.

Right now the Dothan is still hindered by a few things (which are dimished, but not eliminated with overclocking) that would give it even more performance.

For starters, it only operates at a (stock) FSB of 100MHz X 4 ... this goes back to the original Northwood days. Overclocking helps this immensely, but if they would be to make faster Dothans with the P4's 200 MHz FSB it could only help.

A more important factor is the P-M's weak FPU performance (compared to the Athlon64). Dothan really needs SSE1 and SSE2 (and, why not, SSE3 as well) to become a desktop FP monster.

It's potential is incredible though, notice that the 2 Ghz Dothan runs effortlessly on cr@ptacular laptop cooling, so obviously that chip has huge headroom just by using a more effective desktop air cooling solution.

hmmm just that the dothan does have sse and sse2 just not 3 which only the prescott has whatever.

Yeah, you're right. I didn't see those reviews so I didn't know that the Dothan had SSE 1 and 2 already. So, it's already pretty modern.

 

[clarkey01]

neither smithfield (based on prescott) or dothan dual core project will have hyperthreading. A little bird told me.....

 

[itachi]

ok nm.. i didn't see that there was a 3rd page..

 

[Slaimus]

The Dothan based Celeron M 350 sells for about $125. If a board can come into the $150-$200 range it may be very worthwhile for a very overclockable and power sipping setup. It would give a 90nm 3000+ setup a good run for its money.