doom 3 = garbage

[jjones]

At a $55.00 retail price, that's a lot of money for a game. I hadn't planned on buying it and everything I've read about it just reconfirms that decision. I dislike "dark" games and this one, with it's jack-in-the-box monsters at every turn, sounds especially lame. What the hell are the supposedly great graphics for if you can't see anything? Where is the gameplay if all that the developers can think of is to have monsters pop out behind you again and again? Sounds like eyestrain and tedium to me.

I'm not going to even d/l the game off e-donkey, too much time and effort. I will d/l the upcoming demo just to check it out, but if that's more that 6 or 7 hundred megs, I won't even bother with that.

 

[nCred]

But it looks so good, I tried to play call of duty today but it looked so ugly compared to doom 3, so I had to turn it off.

 

[The Green Bean]

ya Doom3 sux

 

[Veramocor]

ID was uber smart to not release a early demo for this game. Unlike UT2004 which released a pre-game demo to get you to want the game, ID diddn't release a pre-release demo because they new it would decrease the actual sales of the game.

 

[aircooled]

Hopefully there will be some complete mods for it shortly

 

[nippyjun]

In my opinion the game was great. I really enjoyed it. I couldn't wait to get home from work to play it.

 

[CTrain]

I like playing it just for the graphic.
Just an awesome engine...wish they made it a little more colorful.

 

[imported_Phil]

Originally posted by: Judgement
I've never even played doom3, or doom2, and I've never looked at any screenshots.


But in my drunken state I can conclude from your review that the game developers deserve to lick a gay mans ass.

So... squeaky clean then?

 

[klah]

Originally posted by: Gurck
Damn man, if you want attention that badly go rice up a Civic or walk around naked. Bash-Doom-3 month ended a few days ago.

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I'm playing through it now. I'm a few hours in. My impressions:

1) It runs like crap. 2500+ cpu, 512 ram, GF 3 ti 200 on minimum settings (I mean absolutely everything turned off at 640X4800) it's OK, but still gets slow downs. Before you make fun of my system, this sytem played Far Cry at a faster setting and the net result was that Far Cry offered much better graphics, with wide open environments.

2) The game is too fvcking dark. I've never had to play an FPS game in the past where I'm spending 1/3 of my time walking around with a flashlight, then switching to a weapon when I need to. This would be novel if used a little, but it is simply tedious now.

3) It's really no longer scary - just annoying - that the monsters keep popping out of impossible-to-see closets from behind me. Really silly.

4) The environment is not interactive. You can't even shoot out monitor screens for frig's sake. Even sh*ty FPS games have had that basic funtionality for years.

5) I like how the interaction with computers works, and how the mouse becomes a mouse on the terminal that you're using. Dito for locked cabinets.

Basically the game is, as I always predicted it would be, a bad game with maybe a good engine. We won't know if the engine is worth having waited for until somebody with the ability to design a good game takes it and does something with it. Idsoftware hasn't been able to make a good game in years, because they bring nothing to the table that they hadn't brought to the table with Doom 1. This solidifies my stance that they are an engine shop and that their _games_ are crap. I'm glad I didn't pay for this game. I'll finish it, but I get bored after about 15 min playing.

Oh yeah before I stop, not that I'll ever play this in multi, but 4 people to a level? Pitiful. Jon Carmack should spend more time building that rocket and forget the game industry. I would suspect that only the most diehard hardcore fanbois would play this through, and play far cry through, and consider this better. FC is hands down, and by a long, long shot (not that Doom3 would know anything about shooting at distance, because the engine can't handle large rooms for sh*t), a superior game.

I couldn't agree more. Like someone said, they didn't even release a demo, not to hurt sales, which are purely driven by the astronomical hype and the brilliant media campaign. This game is a rip off.

 

[brigden]

I didn't involve myself in the hype surrounding the game until a week or two before its release. I played straight through, but ended up disappointed.

The game was gorgeous, albeit a little too dark, but that helped create the atmosphere. Also, they explained that lack of power through the story.

The audio was OK, but could have been much better. The voice acting was top-notch.

There were a few neat touches: the ability to use your mouse on-screen and PDAs.

The biggest disappointment was the gameplay. The game was simply boring and repetitive. The enemies used the same tactics, sprang from the same locations (in closets, from behind), and soon it was easy to anticipate where they would appear.

Level design was crap, and was standard ID.

Carmack and crew can program beautiful engines, but they suck at making engaging games. I know at least two people I work with that simply never finished the game.

 

[Rent]

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: Rent
Oh wait, I thought thNEOone said all games are a waste of time? And now you don't like Doom3?

Boohoo.

christ almighty. it amazes me how people can remember silly little threads from months prior. what's more, you remembered my opinions from that thread.

edit: i can't even find the thread, how long ago was it?!?!


=|

Well, its was a pretty broad title for your thread. It only took about 30 seconds ...arching to find it too.

Doom 3 is a game. People will like it (me) and people will not like it (you). I consider it a excellent taste of things to come, but thats me. Other people seem to just take the objective look at it and say "Man, I had to make myself play through it cause i know whats gonna happen!"

Yeah, I did too cause I PLAYED DOOM 10 years ago.

Oh, and anyone who complains about it running like crap, you might need to sit down for this. Your computer sucks. You might wanna consider upgrading that 3 year old video card if you want to play the *latest* games.

 

[StageLeft]

Carmack and crew can program beautiful engines, but they suck at making engaging games.

yep, I've been saying the same thing for years. They're nothing more than an engine maker.

 

[Klixxer]

If i wanted extreme graphics i could render a scene in Softimage that would kick D3's ass out of the building but i want gameplay.

A game is not worth one cent to me if it doesn't have good gameplay, Deus Ex is still my all time favourite game, not for the graphics but for the gameplay.

 

[Deleted member 4644]

Is it just me, or is the game very dark because the game engine SIMPLY incapable of running a lighted room?

Maybe I'm wrong.. but on my XP 2600, Ti 4600, 1gb ram it really runs like crap. Now, when I got the flashlight mod, it REALLY ran like crap. Hence, I believe that they knew that hardly ANY systems (not that many people in the world have 6800s) could run it for crap if they had lit rooms..


Am I right?

Pre-flame edit: I know that my system blows for FPS games.. but maybe Id went overboard on the special effects.

 

[faZZter]

Originally posted by: theNEOone
well i bought the game when it first came out, but i got a job and all my free time has been spent away from the computer. well, i got sick just the other day, and this stupid hurricane has everyone freaked out so i've been camping out playing it for the past day or so. and although the graphics are great, doom3 is the most annoying game i've ever played. everything is fvcking dark, you've got monsters jumping at you from every direction, and i'm spending half my time reloading my freaking gun. i like how the developers decided to add some "realism" in the reload times, yet in the year 2145 (or whenever this sh!t takes place) we haven't yet decided to put flashlights on our assault weapons.

ok, the game is challenging - great. but how about you make it fun, too??!? i play a game to have fun, not to be upset at all of its shortcomings.


=|

What can I say, I like it......

 

[fsstrike]

Besides pretty grahpics, doom3 sucks.

 

[Wingznut]

I'm with Jeff and Rent on this one... Doom 3 is exactly what it's supposed to be.

If your expectations were that the atmosphere was going to be bright and the guns would have no reload, or that it'll run flawlessly on a videocard thats a few generations old... Well, your expectations are just out of whack, and that's hardly the developer's fault.

 

[user1234]

Here's the first paragraph form gamespot.com's review:

Extremely impressive from a technical standpoint yet behind the times from a first-person-shooter design standpoint: This is the dichotomy that is Doom 3, the long-awaited sequel from well-known Texas-based developer id Software. Doom 3 is quite possibly the best-looking game ever, thanks to the brand-new 3D graphics engine used to generate its convincingly lifelike, densely atmospheric, and surprisingly expansive environments. At the same time, when you look past the spectacular appearance, you'll find a conventional, derivative shooter. In fact, if you played the original Doom or its sequel back in the mid '90s (or any popular '90s-era shooter, for that matter), you may be shocked by how similarly Doom 3 plays to those games. The legions of id Software's true believers will celebrate this straightforwardness as being deliberately "old school," especially since Doom 3 is packed with direct references to its classic predecessors. However, the truth of the matter is that Doom 3's gameplay structure and level design are behind the times and very much at odds with the game's cutting-edge, ultrarealistic looks. Yet the quality of the presentation truly is remarkable--enough so that it overwhelms Doom 3's occasional problems.

 

[CTrain]

Heh, can't stay away from the thread.

I couldn't bring myself to play the game when I had the 9800pro....it was running a little sluggish.
Then when I got the 6800, and because the graphic was so gprgeous and running so smooth...I kept playing and playing despite the repetitiveness.

I think alot of people would think differently if they had the system to run the game like it was supposed to be run.

 

[brigden]

Originally posted by: CTrain
Heh, can't stay away from the thread.

I couldn't bring myself to play the game when I had the 9800pro....it was running a little sluggish.
Then when I got the 6800, and because the graphic was so gprgeous and running so smooth...I kept playing and playing despite the repetitiveness.

I think alot of people would think differently if they had the system to run the game like it was supposed to be run.

I don't believe you had a hard time running the game on a 9800 Pro. I ran it with a 9700 Pro and experienced no chugging, no lagging, no stuttering, no skipping, or any other issues related to performance. I would get about 48-50 fps in game.

 

[Analog]

Originally posted by: Judgement
I've never even played doom3, or doom2, and I've never looked at any screenshots.


But in my drunken state I can conclude from your review that the game developers deserve to lick a gay mans ass.

:shocked:

 

[AkumaX]

i think someone made a hack to change it so you dont reload, pistols + chaingun share bullets, bfg + plasma share ammo, shotgun back to normal, and no reloading at all (e.g. doom/doom2 )

 

[MrCodeDude]

I played Doom3 for a total of 30 minutes and then uninstalled it. I just didn't like it.

 

[Dissipate]

I warned people about this before doom 3 even came out in this thread. I was called an "anti-pop" and basically laughed at. Last laugh is on you, suckers!