Donovan McNabb is not good, he gets press because he is Black ??????????

[Zebo]

brian_riendeau, Ask yourself this.

If BET on one of their talk shows said "M&Ms the media's darling because he's white" would it be racist? I've heard it said plenty. In Vibe and other music pubs.

AND IT"S TRUE. Any anomoly (white rapper) (Black NFL QB) gets more reporting and curries the media favor!! It's wrong to mention it?

 

[nitsuj3580]

Originally posted by: Triumph
This is NOT a racist statement, people. Quit being so quick to jump the gun on the race card. He's obviously commenting on the media coverage of McNabb. Let's lay it out plain and simple:
"McNabb is no good because he's black."
"McNabb is no good, but he gets alot of attention because he's black."

Which one of these statements is racist, and which isn't? (Hint: only one of them is racist)

1st is racist, 2nd one isn't. Do I win

both quotes are however, completely wrong. Put McNabb on the Rams or any team with a goto receiver and watch him have a field day. You don't get to 3 pro bowls, 2 nfc title games, and runner up MVP in your first year as a starter by being the media's golden boy

 

[Triumph]

Let me draw a correlation that I think we all can agree on. Jessica Lynch did nothing special. And yet she gets ALL of the media attention. No one here can even name any of the other soldiers that were involved in that whole ordeal. She didn't do anything alone. So why is she the focus of all the media attention? Because she's a woman and it makes a good story!

Now that I've pointed out this fact, are any of you going to call me a sexist?

 

[NeoV]

"Sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go," Limbaugh said. "I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."


This is completely HIS opinion...I've never once heard that McNabb was in any way, shape, or form overrated...yes, the Eagles D was much better than their offense was, but this isn't the Baltimore Ravens superbowl team with Trent Dilfer at QB, where he was there not to lose the game...McNabb has been the central focus of their offense, which lacked any star running backs or recievers..their star on offense is him...runner up for the MVP in his first full season as a starter..3 time pro bowl player.....And Rush thinks that is because he is black and therefore the media is extra nice to him? RIDICULOUS! Ask Kordell Stewart how kind the media is to him since he is a black QB.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: Triumph
Let me draw a correlation that I think we all can agree on. Jessica Lynch did nothing special. And yet she gets ALL of the media attention. No one here can even name any of the other soldiers that were involved in that whole ordeal. She didn't do anything alone. So why is she the focus of all the media attention? Because she's a woman and it makes a good story!

Now that I've pointed out this fact, are any of you going to call me a sexist?

Yes, yes, I kid I kid....

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Triumph
Let me draw a correlation that I think we all can agree on. Jessica Lynch did nothing special. And yet she gets ALL of the media attention. No one here can even name any of the other soldiers that were involved in that whole ordeal. She didn't do anything alone. So why is she the focus of all the media attention? Because she's a woman and it makes a good story!

Now that I've pointed out this fact, are any of you going to call me a sexist?

Plenty of groups would like Ms. magazine! It's sad this climate of victimhood and race/sex card pulling we have today where the truth can't be told.

 

[nitsuj3580]

Originally posted by: Triumph
Let me draw a correlation that I think we all can agree on. Jessica Lynch did nothing special. And yet she gets ALL of the media attention. No one here can even name any of the other soldiers that were involved in that whole ordeal. She didn't do anything alone. So why is she the focus of all the media attention? Because she's a woman and it makes a good story!

Now that I've pointed out this fact, are any of you going to call me a sexist?

I completely agree with you, however, in your case, Lynch was unique as being the only woman. In the NFL, there are several very good black QBs: McNabb, McNair, Culpepper, Vick, Brooks, hopefully Leftwich, etc. Rush is a moron for singling out McNabb just because he's had two bad games saying the media is hoping a black qb succeeds when there are 4-5 of them doing pretty well and a few others that start for their teams. Completely uncalled for and stupid IMHO.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Triumph
Let me draw a correlation that I think we all can agree on. Jessica Lynch did nothing special. And yet she gets ALL of the media attention. No one here can even name any of the other soldiers that were involved in that whole ordeal. She didn't do anything alone. So why is she the focus of all the media attention? Because she's a woman and it makes a good story!

Now that I've pointed out this fact, are any of you going to call me a sexist?

Plenty of groups would like Ms. magazine! It's sad this climate of victimhood and race/sex card pulling we have today where the truth can't be told.

Yes, but those people are unreasonable and illogical idiots. We all agree on that.

 

[Argo]

Another thing about this whole thing: I bet you most of the people accusing RL of being racist are white themselves. How many times have you seen a minority athlete complaining of being treated badly because of his race? Now how many times have you heard media blow a story out of proportion just because they thought somebody said something racist?

It seems that these days media is jumping on racism bandwagon just to cover their bases.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: nitsuj3580

Originally posted by: Triumph
Let me draw a correlation that I think we all can agree on. Jessica Lynch did nothing special. And yet she gets ALL of the media attention. No one here can even name any of the other soldiers that were involved in that whole ordeal. She didn't do anything alone. So why is she the focus of all the media attention? Because she's a woman and it makes a good story!

Now that I've pointed out this fact, are any of you going to call me a sexist?

I completely agree with you, however, in your case, Lynch was unique as being the only woman. In the NFL, there are several very good black QBs: McNabb, McNair, Culpepper, Brooks, hopefully Leftwich, etc. Rush is a moron for singling out McNabb saying the media is hoping a black qb succeeds when there are 4-5 of them doing pretty well and a few others that start for their teams. Completely uncalled for and stupid IMHO.

Wrong there was another woman that was also captured and held during the Iraq war but she wasn't cute, young, and blonde so guess how much media attention she got? So little that sadly I can't even recall what her name is.

 

[MaxDepth]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Yea its another line from a republican......

rush Limbaugh
"The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. "


CNN Story

ESPN Story


Can you say foot to mouth. Of course I am sure he will stand by it.

Or do a "What I meant........."

From his lunch time show, I heard it 680 AM WPTF, he is standing by his statement which he is saying is not racist at all.

In my opinion, I always wonder about the entity known as "the media." It seems as if there is a cartel or organization (and no, not the broadcaster's association) that makes decisions for the group as a whole. I don't buy it.

 

[Red Dawn]

Why was it necessary for Rush to politicize his opinion of the Media in his role as a Sports Commentator? He should of just stated that he didn't think McNabb wasn't as good of a QB as the Football pundits portray him to be and leave race out of it. Fscking Limbaugh, sometimes he just can't keep his Festering Gob shut.

 

[Cooljt1]

limbaugh is such an idiot. he has so many fallacies in his statements that his ties should just talke for him

 

[SludgeFactory]

Obviously McNabb has very little to work with on offense, and to me he's not overrated. I don't think the media give him coverage because he's black, I think it's because he's done a lot with what he has to work with on his offensive team. If he sucked no one would be talking about him on a national level, other than taking shots at him and the coaching staff.

What the media does do with respect to black quarterbacks is this: they are EXTREMELY sensitive toward calling them "running quarterbacks," as if that somehow implies black quarterbacks don't have the cognitive ability to make reads and lead an effective passing game. Never mind the fact that if a guy can escape pressure and turn it upfield, in addition to pocket pass, it gives the opposing defense all kinds of problems and makes the QB more dangerous. Every week, the play by play guys go out of their way to clarify it if they feel they've labeled a black QB even if they didn't explicitly do so, and they back away from the words "running" and "quarterback" to the point of absurdity. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the NFL was behind all of this, and they briefed the media on this issue and told them to back away from using the term.

I wonder if Limbaugh was trying to say something like this, "The media has been overly sensitive about criticizing a black QB who struggles with the passing game." I don't know if he was trying to say something more along those lines with respect to McNabb or what. It's a bogus statement if that's the case, because even though McNabb's basically looked like crap this year, his past performance indicates he's a very capable NFL QB.

 

[NeoV]

I think the biggest problem with the statement is that Rush is the only person who has that opinion..its almost as if he is trying to be controversial....McNabb is clearly a quality NFL QB..two bad games shouldn't tarnish the last 3 years of his career, which Rush is trying to say weren't that good - which is totally wrong. How about the Eagles lack of any real quality receivers, or the fact that the have lost several major players to free agency of the past few years....those are the reasons for the Eagles slow start, not the white media falsing building up the talents of D.McNabb..

I think this is one of the more ridiculous comments anyone has made about the NFL in quite some time.

Does Aaron Brooks have the press 'hoping' for him? Kordell? I suppose the only reason M.Vick is on the cover of 50 magazines this year, and the Madden 2004 cover, is because the press has built up another black QB?

Rush is making this stuff up as he goes along, much like his radio show, but the difference is that a national audience of people who read CNN and ESPN, who aren't "ditto-heads", are going to question what he says, and not just nod accordingly.


Jessica Lynch's story was built-up to be much more than it really was for reasons that have nothing at all to do with racism or sexism...had Joe Anonymous been in the same position she was in it would have likely led to a similarly enhanced story - lone soldier left, fought till he ran out of bullets, beaten in captivity, left to die, rescued in a daring night-time raid, etc, etc... No correlation at all to Rush's statements.

 

[Lucky]

think the biggest problem with the statement is that Rush is the only person who has that opinion..its almost as if he is trying to be controversial....McNabb is clearly a quality NFL QB..two bad games shouldn't tarnish the last 3 years of his career, which Rush is trying to say weren't that good -

That's not what he said, in totality. After his comments were made (which I admit even made me gasp, knowing this PC crap would follow) the other four commentators made a specific point to clarify with Rush that his point was not that he was a *bad* quarterback, but that he is a *good* QB, just overrated because the media wants a black QB to succeed.

oh, and he's not the only one who thinks that. i agree with him. the nfl has deep vested interests in promoting blacks at the QB and management positions.

it should be noted two of the four other commentators are/were black, and did not say one word of disagreement.

 

[Ausm]

Limbaugh is a complete Jackass....


Ausm

 

And oddly enough (

) Fox News has no mention of this story on its site.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Yea its another line from a republican......

rush Limbaugh
"The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. "


CNN Story

ESPN Story


Can you say foot to mouth. Of course I am sure he will stand by it.

Or do a "What I meant........."

Thank God you were quoting someone...I was afraid you were going out on a limb, not afraid to go against the flow

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: Toasthead

Originally posted by: Mani
Limbaugh's an idiot. The Eagles' offense would be nothing without McNabb.

Whats your point? The Eagles offense is nothing. The rank LAST in PPG. 28th in YPG, 29th in Pass YPG.

The Eagles Offense SUCKS.

That should tell you the kind of support McNabb gets. There is NO running game, no star recievers and an average at best o-line, yet they manage to get to the NFC championship. Certainly the defense deserves it's fair share credit but McNabb has to almost singlehandedly carry that offense. Over 2000 pass yards and over 400 rush yards in 2002 despite an injured foot...and only in his 3rd year. Only an idiot would say McNabb sucks.

 

[LordJezo]

He was a commentator on ESPN.

He can say whatever he wants. It's his opinion. He didn't actually say anything bad. Just said how, much like affirmative action, more is given to the black quaterbacks since a while ago they all complained how no blacks were in the quaterback position.

You know, no one complained when Davis out in CA made mention that if you cant pronounce the word California then you shouldn't be governer. Or when Cruz Bustamante used the n-word in a speech..

But, who cared about them? No one really since they are democracts and can say what they wants.

Go Rush! Thumbs up in my book.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: LordJezo
He was a commentator on ESPN.

He can say whatever he wants. It's his opinion. He didn't actually say anything bad. Just said how, much like affirmative action, more is given to the black quaterbacks since a while ago they all complained how no blacks were in the quaterback position.

You know, no one complained when Davis out in CA made mention that if you cant pronounce the word California then you shouldn't be governer. Or when Cruz Bustamante used the n-word in a speech..

But, who cared about them? No one really since they are democracts and can say what they wants.

Go Rush! Thumbs up in my book.

Yeah and heads up in yer Arse. Rush made this comment on a Sports show, not in a Political Forum. If the comment was made of his daily Rable Rousing Talk Show then I seriously doubt anybody would care as they would just right it off with the rest of the nonsense he espouses there.

 

[Nitemare]

Randall Cunningham is 5 times the athlete that McNabb will ever be

McNabb is a no-talent having wannabe NFL quarterback that finally had a semidecent game the other night.

What Rush said was not racist, just questionable. What he said was no more racist then what Jimmy the Greek or the Cub skipper said a while back. What they said was the truth but was a bitter pill to swallow.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
Randall Cunningham is 5 times the quarterback that McNabb will ever be

McNabb is a no-talent having wannabe NFL quarterback that finally had a semidecent game the other night.

What Rush said was not racist, just questionable. What he said was no more racist then what Jimmy the Greek or the Cub skipper said a while back. What they said was the truth but was a bitter pill to swallow.

Ah Jimmy the Greek. I can assure you that if he wasn't in the bag at the time he would have never said what he did. BTW, Cunningham was 5 times the Athlete, not 5 times the QB. As a field General he left a lot to be desired.

P.S. I don't think this should cost Rush his job but I do think the head of ESPN or who ever is in charge with programming should tell him to keep his political opinions to himself or speak them on his Political show.

 

[gordy]

Originally posted by: jumpr
And oddly enough (

) Fox News has no mention of this story on its site.

simple, it's a non-story