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skyking

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Ivan, don't give up. Be polite but work all the angles you can. By the way, heck of a trader here:)
 

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Why would they use military time? Does the extra ink to write "am" really cost that much?
Aviation has always used military time. This should be a no-brainer.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: brigden
Originally posted by: jpeyton
So the printout said 1:35 without an AM/PM designation, and your parents thought it was safe to assume one over the other?

Your parents are SOL.

No sh!t. I can't believe anyone is stupid enough not to realize that nearly all travel times are standardized in 24 hour time.

No sh!t. I can't believe anyone is stupid enough not to realize that people who never/rarely travel wouldn't know that travel times are standardized in 24 hour time.
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Why would they use military time? Does the extra ink to write "am" really cost that much?
Aviation has always used military time. This should be a no-brainer.

The only aviators involved are the pilots. Selling tickets to passengers who may or may not even know what military time is isn't aviation, it's the tourist industry.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: brigden
Originally posted by: jpeyton
So the printout said 1:35 without an AM/PM designation, and your parents thought it was safe to assume one over the other?

Your parents are SOL.

No sh!t. I can't believe anyone is stupid enough not to realize that nearly all travel times are standardized in 24 hour time.

No sh!t. I can't believe anyone is stupid enough not to realize that people who never/rarely travel wouldn't know that travel times are standardized in 24 hour time.

Sarcastic remarks aside, if someone told you to be somewhere at 9 'o' clock, wouldn't you ASK THEM if they meant AM or PM?

You don't have to travel a lot, or know a lot about aviation, to simply ask for a basic detail instead of assume.
 

Keyvan

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flights past midnight are very common out of Vancouver (YVR) for example. Like someone else said, there are a few trans-pacific flights that leave after midnight (Eva Air has a flight like this I believe that leaves after 2AM).
Were the tickets fully restricted? I don't think you ever mentioned it, but if they are the lowest possible fare type, then the tickets are considered forfeited. Call and ask and see what the airline can do...
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: brigden
Originally posted by: jpeyton
So the printout said 1:35 without an AM/PM designation, and your parents thought it was safe to assume one over the other?

Your parents are SOL.

No sh!t. I can't believe anyone is stupid enough not to realize that nearly all travel times are standardized in 24 hour time.

No sh!t. I can't believe anyone is stupid enough not to realize that people who never/rarely travel wouldn't know that travel times are standardized in 24 hour time.

Sarcastic remarks aside, if someone told you to be somewhere at 9 'o' clock, wouldn't you ASK THEM if they meant AM or PM?

You don't have to travel a lot, or know a lot about aviation, to simply ask for a basic detail instead of assume.

I completely agree with you. My post was pointing out the glaring flaw in bridgen's post.
 

Keyvan

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: brigden
Originally posted by: jpeyton
So the printout said 1:35 without an AM/PM designation, and your parents thought it was safe to assume one over the other?

Your parents are SOL.

No sh!t. I can't believe anyone is stupid enough not to realize that nearly all travel times are standardized in 24 hour time.

No sh!t. I can't believe anyone is stupid enough not to realize that people who never/rarely travel wouldn't know that travel times are standardized in 24 hour time.


No sh!t. I can't believe someone that travels so rarely wouldn't double-check on departure time and flight status at least a day before the flight.
 

ponyo

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Find another flight. I find it hard to belive that there are only one flight to Cuba all week. Go to another airport or location if you have to.
 

brigden

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Why would they use military time? Does the extra ink to write "am" really cost that much?
Aviation has always used military time. This should be a no-brainer.

The only aviators involved are the pilots. Selling tickets to passengers who may or may not even know what military time is isn't aviation, it's the tourist industry.

I have never in all my life ever seen arrival/depature times displayed in anything other than 24 hour time.
 

Goosemaster

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1. they should have called. The truth hurts but in this day and age incompetence from drones working for large organizations is expected:(

2. If it says 1:35 and that is it I do not see how it can be for 1:35pm unless it is assumed. In that case yell at the airline arguing that in 24-hour time it meant 1:35am and that all airlines use 24hr time.

3. Either way, I hope their vacation isn't ruined:(


Best of luck
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BigJ

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Originally posted by: Keyvan
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: brigden
Originally posted by: jpeyton
So the printout said 1:35 without an AM/PM designation, and your parents thought it was safe to assume one over the other?

Your parents are SOL.

No sh!t. I can't believe anyone is stupid enough not to realize that nearly all travel times are standardized in 24 hour time.

No sh!t. I can't believe anyone is stupid enough not to realize that people who never/rarely travel wouldn't know that travel times are standardized in 24 hour time.


No sh!t. I can't believe someone that travels so rarely wouldn't double-check on departure time and flight status at least a day before the flight.

Read above. I'm not defending them for making the assinine mistake of not confirming the departure time and flight status.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Flight times are in military time so stuff like this doesn't happen.
not the case for the flight I just booked. It states AM or PM. American Airlines / Travelocity.
 

brigden

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All the BS aside, your parents have zero chance of getting a refund. The only way they'll be able to salvage the holiday is to find an airline CS empathetic enough to allow them to wait stand-by for another flight to Cuba.

The only other option is to purchase one-way tickets to Cuba seperately.
 
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Tickets to Cuba cost as much as the whole vacation in the cheapest place so that's not an option. Also, one way tickets aren't cheaper at all because there is nobody going one way from Cuba, if you know what I mean.

Another b1tch is that we have some lame holiday tomorrow so the offices are all closed until tuesday...

I got some good ideas from here but mostly this was a bad idea to post it since people would rather ROFL than help.
 

skyking

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Originally posted by: IvanAndreevich
Tickets to Cuba cost as much as the whole vacation in the cheapest place so that's not an option. Also, one way tickets aren't cheaper at all because there is nobody going one way from Cuba, if you know what I mean.

Another b1tch is that we have some lame holiday tomorrow so the offices are all closed until tuesday...

I got some good ideas from here but mostly this was a bad idea to post it since people would rather ROFL than help.

Hey! I'm not rofling, Pal:)
Keep after it. There has to be some angle man.............
 

Muadib

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Originally posted by: skyking
Originally posted by: IvanAndreevich
Tickets to Cuba cost as much as the whole vacation in the cheapest place so that's not an option. Also, one way tickets aren't cheaper at all because there is nobody going one way from Cuba, if you know what I mean.

Another b1tch is that we have some lame holiday tomorrow so the offices are all closed until tuesday...

I got some good ideas from here but mostly this was a bad idea to post it since people would rather ROFL than help.

Hey! I'm not rofling, Pal:)
Keep after it. There has to be some angle man.............
And that's my problem with the OP. He's not looking for help, he's looking for some angle to get over on the airline. Clearly it's his parents fault, but he wants someone else to pay for it. Sorry pal, it's not gonna happen.