Don Imus fired by CBS over "racist/sexist" comments **Updated**

[Darkstar757]

NFS4,

I am too tired of AL Sharpton being given the black enforcer role. With that said I do think folks need to stop with the racist remarks period. As long as the disparity of wealth of this country swings to the majority white community you will continue to see this. African Americans have been the butt end of racist remarks for far too long. If folks keep picking at the scab it will stay infected.

 

[compuwiz1]

It's all Stevie Wonder's fault, since he made that song!

:music:Looking back on when I
Was a little nappy headed boy
Then my only worry
Was for Christmas what would be my toy
Even though we sometimes
Would not get a thing
We were happy with the
Joy the day would bring

Sneaking out the back door
To hang out with those hoodlum friends of mine
Greeted at the back door
With "boy thought I told you not to go outside,"
Tryin' your best to bring the
Water to your eyes
Thinkin' it might stop her
From woopin' your behind

I wish those days could come back once more
Why did those days ev-er have to go
I wish those days could come back once more
Why did those days ev-er have to go
Cause I love them so

Brother says he's tellin'
'Bout you playin' doctor with that girl
Just don't tell I'll give you
Anything you want in this whole wide world
Mama gives you money for Sunday school
You trade yours for candy after church is through

Smokin' cigarettes and writing something nasty on the wall (you nasty boy)
Teacher sends you to the principal's office down the wall
You grow up and learn that kinda thing ain't right
But while you were doin'it-it sure felt outta sight

I wish those days could come back once more
Why did those days ev-er have to go
I wish those days could come back once more
Why did those days ev-er have to go:music: :laugh:

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Yes, I did! What makes you an authority?

Well, I can read a dictionary for starters...

I was speaking of all the coverage this has had on television. You couldn't pay me to view any of it. Now drop it.

Of course, everyone has a right to be offended. Personally, I think the word "ho" has been toned down just by its sheer overuse . Call me one. I'll likely laugh and not take you serious anyway.

Was Imus right to call them that? Probably not, but the big deal that is being made out of it is even more sickening than the original statement.

The Rutgers women's basketball team accomplished something impressive, and instead of being congratulated for it they were insulted. But you ask if Imus was right to call them that and then say "Probably not" - what the hell is wrong with you?

This story has gotten a lot of attention because Imus is a prominent radio personality who has a lot of influence on a lot of people. Does it surprise you that people don't want someone in that position to be spreading hate?

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Darkstar757
NFS4,

I am too tired of AL Sharpton being given the black enforcer role. With that said I do think folks need to stop with the racist remarks period. As long as the disparity of wealth of this country swings to the majority white community you will continue to see this. African Americans have been the butt end of racist remarks for far too long. If folks keep picking at the scab it will stay infected.

That works in both directions you know. Once the last of us baby boomers depart this mortal coil the white guilt thing is not going to play anymore since we are about the last people left that remember the remains of the pre civil rights era.

 

[manowar821]

Anyone who refers to women as "bitches" or "hos" is a dirty waste of space.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Yes, I did! What makes you an authority?

Well, I can read a dictionary for starters...

I was speaking of all the coverage this has had on television. You couldn't pay me to view any of it. Now drop it.

Of course, everyone has a right to be offended. Personally, I think the word "ho" has been toned down just by its sheer overuse . Call me one. I'll likely laugh and not take you serious anyway.

Was Imus right to call them that? Probably not, but the big deal that is being made out of it is even more sickening than the original statement.

The Rutgers women's basketball team accomplished something impressive, and instead of being congratulated for it they were insulted. But you ask if Imus was right to call them that and then say "Probably not" - what the hell is wrong with you?

What the hell is wrong with you except for trying to be a big man starting a worthless two bit argument on the internet because you are likely bored with nothing better to do?
Have you ever listened to Imus? This is him, his shtick. (Yeh, you better look shtick up in the dictionary so you can be sure I used it/spelled it correctly. :roll: ) He has apologized 100 times by now. Get on the list and he'll apologize to you.

I'm not condoning what he said. Did I spell that out clearly enough for you?

 

[Queasy]

Heh - Imus calls out Sharpton on the "Today" show this morning.

While debating with the Rev. Al Sharpton on this morning?s ?Today? show, talk show host Don Imus called Sharpton out. According to Imus, the Rev agreed that he would appear on Imus? show only if Imus appeared on his show. Imus did go on Sharpton?s show yesterday, where he grovelled and scraped to get out of his Rutgers jam, but Sharpton has broken his promise and now refuses to go on Imus? show. The Reverend?s word is, apparently, worthless.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Queasy
Heh - Imus calls out Sharpton on the "Today" show this morning.

While debating with the Rev. Al Sharpton on this morning?s ?Today? show, talk show host Don Imus called Sharpton out. According to Imus, the Rev agreed that he would appear on Imus? show only if Imus appeared on his show. Imus did go on Sharpton?s show yesterday, where he grovelled and scraped to get out of his Rutgers jam, but Sharpton has broken his promise and now refuses to go on Imus? show. The Reverend?s word is, apparently, worthless.

and thats a suprise?

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Queasy
Heh - Imus calls out Sharpton on the "Today" show this morning.

While debating with the Rev. Al Sharpton on this morning?s ?Today? show, talk show host Don Imus called Sharpton out. According to Imus, the Rev agreed that he would appear on Imus? show only if Imus appeared on his show. Imus did go on Sharpton?s show yesterday, where he grovelled and scraped to get out of his Rutgers jam, but Sharpton has broken his promise and now refuses to go on Imus? show. The Reverend?s word is, apparently, worthless.

and thats a suprise?

Knowing Sharpton's history, not at all. Just fun to watch the fireworks.

 

[compuwiz1]

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: Stifko
I dunno about you, but I don't find "cracker" to be that hurtfull. Chris Rock can call me a cracker any day. You tryin to tell me that cracker is the same as the n word? yeah okay.

Up until recently black women never had any roles on tv with authority. You never saw a black women in a position of authorty on any show. They were always whores, junkies, or some other lower life citizen. Now slowly that is changing. So we were kind of programmed subconsciously to think that black women aren't really the same as white women. That black women are a step down from white women in social standings. That black women can't achieve postions of authority and/or higher standings in society b/c after all they are black and not to mention nappy headed hoes. Imus just brought that ugly stereotype sharply back into focus.

Try not to forget how and why black people got here in the first place. Dragged in shackles to bale hay and pick cotton as slaves. As much as things have changed, not really that much has changed in a lot of ways and in the ignorant minds of some ppl.

??? Ignorant Much ???

Here are shows where black women were influential / in position of power:

Star Trek
The Jefferson
Good Times
227
The Cosby Show
Gimme a Break

And those are shows that were hits and that I can think of off the top of my head.

And let's not forget one of the top influential women on TV for the past two decades. Oprah!

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
What the hell is wrong with you except for trying to be a big man starting a worthless two bit argument on the internet because you are likely bored with nothing better to do?

I only called attention to your incorrect use of the word groveling because I didn't think the Rutgers women's basketball team deserved to be portrayed negatively for responding publicly to a public insult. That is what you did. The word "groveling" has no positive connotations.

Have you ever listened to Imus? This is him, his shtick. (Yeh, you better look shtick up in the dictionary so you can be sure I used it/spelled it correctly. :roll: ) He has apologized 100 times by now. Get on the list and he'll apologize to you.

I'm not condoning what he said. Did I spell that out clearly enough for you?

I have listened to him, but I didn't care much for his show so I haven't listened to him extensively.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: moshquerade
What the hell is wrong with you except for trying to be a big man starting a worthless two bit argument on the internet because you are likely bored with nothing better to do?

I only called attention to your incorrect use of the word groveling because I didn't think the Rutgers women's basketball team deserved to be portrayed negatively for responding publicly to a public insult. That is what you did. The word "groveling" has no positive connotations.

I wasn't referring to them particularly. Did I name them? No. Please stop your groveling over this.

Have you ever listened to Imus? This is him, his shtick. (Yeh, you better look shtick up in the dictionary so you can be sure I used it/spelled it correctly. :roll: ) He has apologized 100 times by now. Get on the list and he'll apologize to you.

I'm not condoning what he said. Did I spell that out clearly enough for you?

I have listened to him, but I didn't care much for his show so I haven't listened to him extensively.[/quote]

Done with you today mugs. You've a wasted enough of my time.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Done with you today mugs. You've a wasted enough of my time.

Hah... ok.

 

[Stifko]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: Stifko
I dunno about you, but I don't find "cracker" to be that hurtfull. Chris Rock can call me a cracker any day. You tryin to tell me that cracker is the same as the n word? yeah okay.

Up until recently black women never had any roles on tv with authority. You never saw a black women in a position of authorty on any show. They were always whores, junkies, or some other lower life citizen. Now slowly that is changing. So we were kind of programmed subconsciously to think that black women aren't really the same as white women. That black women are a step down from white women in social standings. That black women can't achieve postions of authority and/or higher standings in society b/c after all they are black and not to mention nappy headed hoes. Imus just brought that ugly stereotype sharply back into focus.

Try not to forget how and why black people got here in the first place. Dragged in shackles to bale hay and pick cotton as slaves. As much as things have changed, not really that much has changed in a lot of ways and in the ignorant minds of some ppl.

??? Ignorant Much ???

Here are shows where black women were influential / in position of power:

Star Trek
The Jefferson
Good Times
227
The Cosby Show
Gimme a Break

And those are shows that were hits and that I can think of off the top of my head.

And let's not forget one of the top influential women on TV for the past two decades. Oprah!

I was refering to shows like the Mod Squad and Starsky and Hutch. The tv shows that were on when I was a kid and influenced me. Shows from that era did not have many if any black women in positions of power.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
And let's not forget one of the top influential women on TV for the past two decades. Oprah!

We speak your name!

 

[compuwiz1]

Originally posted by: Stifko

Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Originally posted by: GoPackGo

Originally posted by: Stifko
I dunno about you, but I don't find "cracker" to be that hurtfull. Chris Rock can call me a cracker any day. You tryin to tell me that cracker is the same as the n word? yeah okay.

Up until recently black women never had any roles on tv with authority. You never saw a black women in a position of authorty on any show. They were always whores, junkies, or some other lower life citizen. Now slowly that is changing. So we were kind of programmed subconsciously to think that black women aren't really the same as white women. That black women are a step down from white women in social standings. That black women can't achieve postions of authority and/or higher standings in society b/c after all they are black and not to mention nappy headed hoes. Imus just brought that ugly stereotype sharply back into focus.

Try not to forget how and why black people got here in the first place. Dragged in shackles to bale hay and pick cotton as slaves. As much as things have changed, not really that much has changed in a lot of ways and in the ignorant minds of some ppl.

??? Ignorant Much ???

Here are shows where black women were influential / in position of power:

Star Trek
The Jefferson
Good Times
227
The Cosby Show
Gimme a Break

And those are shows that were hits and that I can think of off the top of my head.

And let's not forget one of the top influential women on TV for the past two decades. Oprah!

I was refering to shows like the Mod Squad and Starsky and Hutch. The tv shows that were on when I was a kid and influenced me. Shows from that era did not have many if any black women in positions of power.

See how much progress there's been.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
And let's not forget one of the top influential women on TV for the past two decades. Oprah!

One of? She probably is THE most influential woman in American media. Oprah has the white female housewife market cornered.

 

[EKKC]

i dont understand why public people are so sensitive.
if i was called names, racial or not, i would just brush it off. hey, why make it my problem when the other person is uneducated? ignore it and it will go away

no. they like to make a big stink about it.

whatever happened to "sticks and stones"

 

[IGBT]

..so when will the black rappers apologize for similar rhetoric heard day in/out on their poorly desguised muse they claim to be music??

 

[NYHoustonman]

Originally posted by: EKKC
i dont understand why public people are so sensitive.
if i was called names, racial or not, i would just brush it off. hey, why make it my problem when the other person is uneducated? ignore it and it will go away

no. they like to make a big stink about it.

whatever happened to "sticks and stones"

People, including Sharpton and his daughter (his show was a DISGRACE, by the way), the Rutgers team and staff, are publicity whores. There's really no other way to put it. They see their chance to play the role of the victim and they pounce.

As I've said I don't understand how ANYONE takes Sharpton seriously.

 

[TheFamilyMan]

Latest on this is the Rutgers women are now voicing their 'hurt' on the matter. The captain of the team expressed her 'hurt' at being called a ho as well as another player said, "I would like to speak to him personally and ... ask him, after you've met me personally, do you still feel in this category that I'm still a 'ho' as a woman and as a black, African-American woman at that?" said Kia Vaughn, a sophomore center.

I just think this whole issue is beyond hypocritical...I mean the coach of Rutgers is expressing so much 'hurt' at the 'abominable' and 'abhorrent' comments made from Imus that she is affected personally and has had to comfort her players and their fragile emotional states. The coach and the girls on the team are just now expressing their hurt, anger and outrage at Imus when black women have been called much much worse by the men of the black race? Give me a fvcking break. Where was their hurt, anger and outrage while some on the team were listening to hip-hop and rap lyrics before the numerous games and accomplishments of this season? Where was their hurt, anger and outrage while some on the team were watching videos on BET or MTV over the last few months that had the same lyrics degrading women and glorifying the degradation of their own race.

God, Imus just needs to find his nuts again and make a stand and tell everyone who is 'hurt' to go put others through the ringer who have used and profited off 'nappy-headed hos' for much longer than his 15 seconds of fame/infamy [depending on how you see it]. Once they've all apologized, including Jesse "Mr. Hymietown" Jackson, and throughly kissed everyone's asses and begged for forgiveness, then and only then should Imus apologize. Geez...poor guy. If only he was black he could spout all the degrading verbage he wanted without recourse.

 

[Rommels]

BTW, the Full Today show thing

 

[wkabel23]

is getting offended and angry by what Imus said really worth the energy? alas, people like Sharpton are only using the situation for personal gain. and how much of a coward is Sharpton for not appearing on his show (assuming Imus is trustworthy...heh)? people love to get upset over things like this and i don't think that will ever change.

how does anyone with half a brain care what he said? getting offended over this is simply granting Imus power.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: TheFamilyMan
Latest on this is the Rutgers women are now voicing their 'hurt' on the matter. The captain of the team expressed her 'hurt' at being called a ho as well as another player said, "I would like to speak to him personally and ... ask him, after you've met me personally, do you still feel in this category that I'm still a 'ho' as a woman and as a black, African-American woman at that?" said Kia Vaughn, a sophomore center.

I just think this whole issue is beyond hypocritical...I mean the coach of Rutgers is expressing so much 'hurt' at the 'abominable' and 'abhorrent' comments made from Imus that she is affected personally and has had to comfort her players and their fragile emotional states. The coach and the girls on the team are just now expressing their hurt, anger and outrage at Imus when black women have been called much much worse by the men of the black race? Give me a fvcking break. Where was their hurt, anger and outrage while some on the team were listening to hip-hop and rap lyrics before the numerous games and accomplishments of this season? Where was their hurt, anger and outrage while some on the team were watching videos on BET or MTV over the last few months that had the same lyrics degrading women and glorifying the degradation of their own race.

God, Imus just needs to find his nuts again and make a stand and tell everyone who is 'hurt' to go put others through the ringer who have used and profited off 'nappy-headed hos' for much longer than his 15 seconds of fame/infamy [depending on how you see it]. Once they've all apologized, including Jesse "Mr. Hymietown" Jackson, and throughly kissed everyone's asses and begged for forgiveness, then and only then should Imus apologize. Geez...poor guy. If only he was black he could spout all the degrading verbage he wanted without recourse.

of course it extends the 15 minutes of fame.

 

[Rommels]

Could Anna Nicole Smith's baby finally kill this over hyped story?
BIRKHEAD IS THE FATHER!!
CNN has finally bumped it as their headline story.