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Lifer
- Oct 24, 2000
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QFT!
And the big question then being: can one be truly "equal" if one constantly wants to be the "victim"?
QFT!
And the big question then being: can one be truly "equal" if one constantly wants to be the "victim"?
Honestly I think the comment should have been considered closely: I mean who in God's name would take a comment on hair-style and promiscuity from an attention-whoring asshole with a doo like Imus' ? That rat on his head rivals Donald Trump's for "hit it with a shovel till it's dead" reactions. 
One could only hope so. I'm sick and tired of the racism.
When you hear the words "black pride", its associated with rising up, and is applauded.
When you hear the words "white pride", it's immediately racist, hateful and bigoted.
I'm tired of seeing the words "african-american" and "white" in the same sentence. Either we're colors, or we're nationalities, either is fine, but if being "black" is a problem, then I'd going to expect to be called a "european-american". Best part is - not all blacks are african, and we ALL came from africa at one point, so its just plain stupid all around.
I'm tired of "diversity" meaning "everyone but whites".
I'm tired of affirmitive action and black/minority scholarships. The issue at hand is the poverty/oppresion of minorites, not the color of their skin. So why are we trying to solve the problem by looking at their skin color? There are PLENTY of poor white people out there that deserve a chance they don't get, and plenty of well off black people who get advantages that they don't need. Any time someone wants to set up a "whites only" scholarship, its denounced as racism. If we want to solve poverty, we need to solve poverty, period. The whole idea of blanket givaways because of the color of someone's skin is RIDICULOUS to me.
We cant remove racism by being racist, and that is EXACTLY what sharpton and jackson are doing to imus, and honestly, theyre setting black people back every time they do this sh*t.
And I'm really, really, really tired of having to justify everything I say as not being bigoted by referring to the fact that I have far more black friends than white friends. I've been lucky enough to grow up in probably the most diverse environment anyone could imagine. I'm at the same time one of the least, and yet most racist people one could know, because I live with it on a day to day basis, and have the gift of looking completely racially ambiguous, so I get to see it from every angle.
I'm also really, really tired of rich old white men running our country, pandering to the masses just enough by supporting this BS and other political correctness. It's a shame Obama jumped on this bandwagon to try to catch a little more of the black vote - I really can't support anyone who is willing to pretty much spit in the face of the first amendment like that.
And for the record, I saw their picture, and they looked like nappy headed hos to me, and I laughed.
Linflas
Lifer
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There are a lot blacks that think this way as well but they are given no voice because the mainstream media is fixated on what Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson have to say about any issue and ignore any opposing views. I look forward to what Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell will have to say about this whole episode.
Good rant, but I'm still seeking clarification on how this relates in any way to the first amendment. At which high profile job can you make racist/sexist remarks without consequences? Why is it "first amendment rights" for Imus to say whatever, but not first amendment rights for the protestors to come out against him?
As far as I know, nobody's trying to put Imus in jail for his remarks, and he's still free to say the exact same remarks from outside the studio door.
Boo Boo
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- Aug 2, 2005
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why cant they just get rid of al or jesse? they really should be tossed in a ditch and buried.
i think if i ever decide too waste my money to go to a game im going to screwm nappy ass hos too.
imus is a disgrace for not having any balls. and the coward stations run like a bunch of pansies. just tell them off. freedom of speech my ass. those two rasict asses
i think if i ever decide too waste my money to go to a game im going to screwm nappy ass hos too.
imus is a disgrace for not having any balls. and the coward stations run like a bunch of pansies. just tell them off. freedom of speech my ass. those two rasict asses
yowolabi, not everything is about the law. This is about a problem in society and the media, namely how Sharpton and Jackson are given so much attention from the media that they have the ability to censor speech. It is about how whites are expected to act and how blacks are expected to act, and how this does even extend into government policy in the form of affirmative action.
Yes the studio has the right to show him the door but we also have the right to discuss why they were pressured to do so and why it is only increasing racial tensions in this country.
Yes the studio has the right to show him the door but we also have the right to discuss why they were pressured to do so and why it is only increasing racial tensions in this country.
- Oct 9, 1999
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The problem (or maybe it's not a problem depending on the way you look at it) with Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson is that when they wake up in the morning, they wake up as a BLACK American.
When I wake up in the morning, I wake up ONLY as an American. I don't let my race define who I am, I let my actions define who I am.
I think if a lot more people went through life with this mentality and didn't think that the world owes them something or that everyone is out to get them, the world would be a better place.
When I wake up in the morning, I wake up ONLY as an American. I don't let my race define who I am, I let my actions define who I am.
I think if a lot more people went through life with this mentality and didn't think that the world owes them something or that everyone is out to get them, the world would be a better place.
Because he's a "shock jock", is how it relates. His entire job revolves around these kinds of things, and this is WHY people listen to talk show hosts like that. Saying someone should be fired for making an outrageous remark on a show based upon outrageous remarks is ridiculous.
Its certainly first amendment rights to protest it, and I dont think they shouldnt be allowed to, but that doesnt mean I have to agree with it and not call BS on it when I see it.
Until I see jesse jackson and al sharpton making a stink of the same magnitude over any black comedian saying the same thing about a white person, I wont be able to respect them, because at least they wont be hypocrites. Preferably, I'd like them to STFU altogther until theyre more inclined to bring people together than drive them apart. You can't fight racism with more racism!
Precisely. Either we're going to all come together and realize that we're all people, yet we're all different, and that is a GOOD THING, or we're going to continue to draw racial boundaries that don't need to exist anymore.
I think that is how most Americans feel, and this effort to be PC serves only to expand the racial divide and in many cases create a problem out of thin air. As a white American I can say I don't think about my race at all on a daily basis, nor the race of others. Yet people like Sharpton and Jackson continue to play the part of the victim when most of us, and especially white leaders who don't want to touch the subject, just want to move on with business that matters.
It happens around this small town where I live, too. Two black guys were drunk and assaulted a bouncer. When the cops came one of their friends (who hadn't been involved) kept putting his hand on the officer's shoulder. After being told numerous times to stop, and then resisting arrest (they were trying to question the people involved in the initial assault), they tasered him.
The newspaper ran an extremely biased story against the cops. Then one of the guys involved in the assault, who worked for the newspaper, wrote a long editorial about how it was racist. Thing is, he had also tried suing the department a few years ago claiming racism, but the courts threw it out. In that case the cops had used pepper spray in some legitamite way (forget exactly why) but the air vents carried the chemicals to a room above where a party of mostly black people was being held. This guy claimed that they intentionally sprayed the party because they were black.
I just don't have the energy to type a response I would like to, I have read many of the same old tired posts. But here's a quote that many want to overlook
"With great power comes great responsibilty"
Imus ignored that, Tim Hardaway ignored that, Michael Richardson ignored that, Mel Gibson ignored that, and the list could go on and on. Snoop dogg, Jesse, Al Sharpton, Matthew Hale, Motley Crew, or Joe Blow from the local bar, none of these people went on a national syndicated radio program and refered to a team of women who just played for the NCAA championship as hoes.
Imus did that and he did that by himself and he paid the price like all lately who have said things without discretion. And the result is he's done. This is not about what someone else has done, said, or got away with. Regardless of anything else, what he did was wrong and he went way too far. Don Imus and his crew has done stuff like this before and they skated by. This time his skating days were ended.
"With great power comes great responsibilty"
Imus ignored that, Tim Hardaway ignored that, Michael Richardson ignored that, Mel Gibson ignored that, and the list could go on and on. Snoop dogg, Jesse, Al Sharpton, Matthew Hale, Motley Crew, or Joe Blow from the local bar, none of these people went on a national syndicated radio program and refered to a team of women who just played for the NCAA championship as hoes.
Imus did that and he did that by himself and he paid the price like all lately who have said things without discretion. And the result is he's done. This is not about what someone else has done, said, or got away with. Regardless of anything else, what he did was wrong and he went way too far. Don Imus and his crew has done stuff like this before and they skated by. This time his skating days were ended.
Don't compare what imus said to michael richards, tim hardaway, or mel gibson.
Imus made a silly remark, which was actually funny.
Michael richards went off the hook, and basically attacked the people directly, and although part of me thinks he was trying to be funny and failed, what he said just came out as *directly* hateful.
Hardaway said "I hate fags". Plain and simple. Directly hateful.
Mel Gibson also flew off the hook on jews, and was certainly hateful.
They're not even in the same ballpark with what Imus said, and none of them really in a position where theyre basically expected to be outrageous and offensive (except Richards) which makes this all the more ridiculous.
He should never, ever, ever have apologized for it.
Ahh Michael Richardson, not Richards. And as far as being funny, I can asure you that very few people regardless of race found what he said funny.
Dont know who the hell Michael Richardson is, or how it relates.
But it was definitely funny, and I dunno where you get your assurance from, but I could easily find you a dozen black, white, brown, green, yellow and red people who all thought it was pretty damn funny if you saw the game and people in question.
BrokenVisage
Lifer
- Jan 29, 2005
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I've never felt as pissed off about the mistreatment of a bad person as I do with Imus. This is utterly RIDICULOUS. I don't even like the guy nor do I condone racial profiling, but this is how he's been on his radio show for 17 YEARS! What's new?! Ugh, I'm too pissed off right now to even make a coherent post, off to shower.
Whats also pretty funny to me is how after imus made his remarks in this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF9BjB7Bzr0
The other dude after him accused the other guy of "fagging out". Which was a far more directly offensive comment. But you don't hear a stink about that one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF9BjB7Bzr0
The other dude after him accused the other guy of "fagging out". Which was a far more directly offensive comment. But you don't hear a stink about that one.
0roo0roo
No Lifer
- Sep 21, 2002
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no kidding, he was hired as a SHOCK JOCK! great power great responsibility my arse. the fact that you are on the airwaves or in the media doesnt mean squat. they aren't hired to be educators or moral authorities. they are not seen as such. not even slightly comparable to mel gibsons of the world, it wasn't a deep seated racial hate, it was a diss. understand that? the airwaves and media are filled with trash tv/reality tv/talk shows galore, anyone who pretends just being on it alone stands for anything really is full of sh*t. as for him skating in the past, he skated because that was the appropriate reaction to his comments, they were irrelevant and unimportant. only the media circus and racial crusade blowing it all out of proportion caused this. and the women? acting like they were hurt, please, grow a spine, you are adults. if this gets you down, wait till you face a real problem and well its the unspoken truth that most guys don't respect womens basketball. its a bad copy of the mens game, down to the uniforms. there isn't even a sexual hook like with tennis and hot players in skirts. these are gangly tall women in unflatternig unifroms running around dribbling a ball, probably the least sexy position for a woman. hell even most women don't even care about womens basketball. course no one would say this in public
only thing this kind of thing does is breed more republicans. remember that jesse jacksons/al sharptons of the world.
and well its the unspoken truth that most guys don't respect womens basketball. its a bad copy of the mens game, down to the uniforms. there isn't even a sexual hook like with tennis and hot players in skirts. these are gangly tall women in unflatternig unifroms running around dribbling a ball, probably the least sexy position for a woman. hell even most women don't even care about womens basketball. course no one would say this in public only thing this kind of thing does is breed more republicans. remember that jesse jacksons/al sharptons of the world.
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
no kidding, he was hired as a SHOCK JOCK! great power great responsibility my arse. the fact that you are on the airwaves or in the media doesnt mean squat. they aren't hired to be educators or moral authorities. they are not seen as such. not even slightly comparable to mel gibsons of the world, it wasn't a deep seated racial hate, it was a diss. understand that? the airwaves and media are filled with trash tv/reality tv/talk shows galore, anyone who pretends just being on it alone stands for anything really is full of sh*t. as for him skating in the past, he skated because that was the appropriate reaction to his comments, they were irrelevant and unimportant. only the media circus and racial crusade blowing it all out of proportion caused this. and the women? acting like they were hurt, please, grow a spine, you are adults. if this gets you down, wait till you face a real problem
only thing this kind of thing does is breed more republicans. remember that jesse jacksons/al sharptons of the world.
You're sexist!!!
I demand your immediate banning. You abused your power and responsibility of posting by making such outrageous remarks.
will889
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- Sep 15, 2003
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You couldn't be more wrong. My neighbor while over for some tecate and fajitas (yeah he's black) was belly laughing about the comment because it was (in his words) was something that the 'brother from the hood" would say (in jest) and it seemed to earn instant funny credibility with him. He didn't see what the big to-do was about all of it ... and my friend is from the stop six area originally from Ft. Worth Texas. He doesn't see why off the cuff half-truths made with no real malice intended can't be made by white guys if they seemingly can be made every day practically every minute by 99.8% of black guys at any time with zero repercussion ...
Go figure.
I pray for the day a powerful white man calls out Sharpton and Jackson - I would LOVE to see the media reaction to that.
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