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Originally posted by: freegeeks


and about the German free speech thing, belief me, most Germans favour the law that prohibits NAZI symbols

So let's discuss that. Why the need to switch the argument and divert attantion away from the subject?

Why do most Germans agree with a law that limits political speech? And do YOU agree with it?

Remember, freedom is gauged not on what you agree with, but on what offends you most.
 
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: Lucky
well just shows they are stupid then.


I'm sure most Americans wouldn't even find Germany on a map ...

hell there was a National Geographics study a while back that showed thata significant portion of americans aged 18-24 couldn't even find their own country on a map

go figure

There you go again. The discussion is about Germany's restriction of free political speech. Yet you feel the need to switch topics and bash the US. Why?
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: freegeeks


and about the German free speech thing, belief me, most Germans favour the law that prohibits NAZI symbols

So let's discuss that. Why the need to switch the argument and divert attantion away from the subject?

Why do most Germans agree with a law that limits political speech? And do YOU agree with it?

Remember, freedom is gauged not on what you agree with, but on what offends you most.


A dog saluting Sie Heil is not political speech

 
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: freegeeks


and about the German free speech thing, belief me, most Germans favour the law that prohibits NAZI symbols

So let's discuss that. Why the need to switch the argument and divert attantion away from the subject?

Why do most Germans agree with a law that limits political speech? And do YOU agree with it?

Remember, freedom is gauged not on what you agree with, but on what offends you most.


A dog saluting Sie Heil is not political speech

It's not? What is it then? And remember, the man was arrested for teaching the dog to do it, and doing it himself.
 
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: Lucky
well just shows they are stupid then.


I'm sure most Americans wouldn't even find Germany on a map ...

hell there was a National Geographics study a while back that showed that a significant portion of americans aged 18-24 couldn't even find their own country on a map

go figure

Oook. You aren't very good at staying on topic, are you?

We spend enough time on WW2, I'm sure enough people can find Germany on the map. It's within easy invading distance of France.
 
Originally posted by: awg
Originally posted by: Shelly21
Originally posted by: Phocas
Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Haha that's hilarious.

But actually, it is very serious in Germany... Denying the holocaust and stuff like that is illegal and can land you in jail. Its not really surprising considering it was less than 100 years ago that something so terrible happened.

I have a good friend from Germany and they take that stuff seriously.....

interesting, that may explain why in this country, we're more "racially sensitive"...
While in Asia, they have toothpaste like "Darlie".

I dont get it Shelly21

Which part?

 
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: Lucky
well just shows they are stupid then.


I'm sure most Americans wouldn't even find Germany on a map ...

hell there was a National Geographics study a while back that showed that a significant portion of americans aged 18-24 couldn't even find their own country on a map

go figure

You wouldn't happen to have a link to that or any proof would you?

What would be just as entertaining is the same study on people in your country..... Ill let you think about what they don't know...
 
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: Lucky
well just shows they are stupid then.


I'm sure most Americans wouldn't even find Germany on a map ...

hell there was a National Geographics study a while back that showed that a significant portion of americans aged 18-24 couldn't even find their own country on a map

go figure

Oook. You aren't very good at staying on topic, are you?

We spend enough time on WW2, I'm sure enough people can find Germany on the map. It's within easy invading distance of France.

😀

You too, Chaotic42... Stay on topic! 😛
 
hmm? I'm not sure what to say here. First I'm sick of people generalizing Americans. Not all of us are rednecks or liberals. Some of us actually have brains and use them (hehe sorry about the liberal dig). (I may or may not be in that group 🙂 ) The dog should not be punished but I'm suspect it will be put down if for no other reason than nobody will want the dog, I hope I'm wrong.

The owner was stupid enough to flaunt his dog's new trick and according to Germany law it's wrong so he should be prosecuted. As far as "do your own thing as long as it don't hurt me", Hmm? Does that hold for every protected group? I just happened upon a situation where someone doing their own thing not only violated company policy but good taste. If the role was reversed I would be fired and sued. But because this person is "protected" we now to have to delicate about the situation.

Civil rights, human rights, special rights for certain groups, I guess it all depends on the current human condition.
 
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Ah yes, Germany, where they limit freedoms and throw people in jail so that no dictator will come and limit freedoms and throw people in jail.
😀
 
While in Asia, they have toothpaste like "Darlie".
-
I dont get it Shelly21
-

Which part?
Darlie

wtf?
 
Originally posted by: awg
While in Asia, they have toothpaste like "Darlie".
-
I dont get it Shelly21
-

Which part?
Darlie

wtf?

Darlie toothpaste is a popular brand in much of Asia. Its dark secret is that it used to be called Darkie, complete with a stereotyped logo of a minstrel man. Apparently its founder had come to the US in the 1920s and seen Al Jolson in his blackface show, and had been impressed with how white Jolson's teeth looked.

Stereotypes of this sort were not unusual before World War II. What was unusual about Darkie was that its racist name and logo were still intact in 1985 when Colgate bought the brand from the Hong Kong's Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co.

Here's where the story gets a little twisted. According to Alecia Swasy in her book Soap Opera, Colgate's arch-rival Procter & Gamble learned about the sale and immediately went to work to use it to their advantage. Both companies were releasing a tartar-control formula that year, and P&G was happy to have the opportunity to portray its rival as racist. It hired a public relations firm to surreptitiously slip information to activists and newspapers about Colgate's disreputable Asian brand.

The strategy worked. There was a storm of uproar: Stories and editorials in major newspapers, threats of boycotts, and even Eddie Murphy expressing his outrage on David Letterman. Colgate was unfairly attacked for a brand it had just purchased; however, the attacks became more and more justified as the toothpaste giant dragged its feet on changing the brand fearing a loss of business. Finally, nearly four years later, it announced that it was changing the name to Darlie and making the man on the package an abstraction of indeterminent race.

The name change placated Western critics, who pointed out that the toothpaste actually sold better after the name change. What they didn't know, and apparently still don't, is that only the English was changed. The Cantonese name ("Haak Yahn Nga Gou") still stayed the same, and the Chinese-language ads reassured users that, despite a cosmetic change to placate those inscrutable Westerners, "Black Man Toothpaste is still Black Man Toothpaste."


 
Originally posted by: awg
While in Asia, they have toothpaste like "Darlie".
-
I dont get it Shelly21
-

Which part?
Darlie

wtf?

That's the new name of the popular Asian toothpaste, they used to have non-PC name and non-PC label until Colgate purchased the company, and then they didn't change it until Proctor and Gamble pointed out that they're making a "racist" toothpaste.

Google it, you may even find the "original" for sale on ebay.

I pick up the new and improved version when I was oversee, not too bad for toothpaste I guess.

Edit: Darn, he's a fast typer. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Ah yes, Germany, where they limit freedoms and throw people in jail so that no dictator will come and limit freedoms and throw people in jail.

That's sig worthy.

It sounds so stupid when you say it like that, but it's true.
Funny or scary? And even worse these are the countries that say we need to be more liberal with civil liberties :Q.
 
Originally posted by: BigJelly
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Ah yes, Germany, where they limit freedoms and throw people in jail so that no dictator will come and limit freedoms and throw people in jail.

That's sig worthy.

It sounds so stupid when you say it like that, but it's true.
Funny or scary? And even worse these are the countries that say we need more civil rights and need to be more open :Q.

A funny thing you will find about far leftists. They will decry ANY violation of civil rights in the US, no matter how small. But at the same time, they will praise what goes on in communist or totalitarian states, and forgive their egregious civil rights transgressions

History is filled with this with examples of the former USSR, North Korea, Communist Vietnam, Cambodia's Khmer Rouge and the most recent is Cuba.
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: BigJelly
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Ah yes, Germany, where they limit freedoms and throw people in jail so that no dictator will come and limit freedoms and throw people in jail.

That's sig worthy.

It sounds so stupid when you say it like that, but it's true.
Funny or scary? And even worse these are the countries that say we need more civil rights and need to be more open :Q.

A funny thing you will find about far leftists. They will decry ANY violation of civil rights in the US, no matter how small. But at the same time, they will praise what goes on in communist or totalitarian states, and forgive their egregious civil rights transgressions

History is filled with this with examples of the former USSR, North Korea, Communist Vietnam, Cambodia's Khmer Rouge and the most recent is Cuba.


are you funny right wingers talking about the totalitarian states like Pakistan and S-Arabia that the US is in bed with or are you talking about the "new europeans" like Berlusconi who spend a week on Bush his ranch. Of course you don't mind his coalition partner in his govt. is an openly neo-fascist. Yip, the right wackos in the US sure love a prime ministre who declared 2 weeks ago that Mussolini wasn't a real criminal because the concentration camps were more like summer camps. That's what your administration is calling the new europe, the shiny future of europe.
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: Lucky
well just shows they are stupid then.


I'm sure most Americans wouldn't even find Germany on a map ...

hell there was a National Geographics study a while back that showed thata significant portion of americans aged 18-24 couldn't even find their own country on a map

go figure

There you go again. The discussion is about Germany's restriction of free political speech. Yet you feel the need to switch topics and bash the US. Why?

I don't see you comment anything about my Guantanomo remark

 
Those Europeans are pretty damn racist. Now they're spreading their hate to man's best friend. What else are they going to corrupt???
 
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: Lucky
well just shows they are stupid then.


I'm sure most Americans wouldn't even find Germany on a map ...

hell there was a National Geographics study a while back that showed thata significant portion of americans aged 18-24 couldn't even find their own country on a map

go figure

There you go again. The discussion is about Germany's restriction of free political speech. Yet you feel the need to switch topics and bash the US. Why?

I don't see you comment anything about my Guantanomo remark

That's not the subject of this thread. That's you trying to divert attention away from the subject of this thread. In fact, you've said little to nothing about the subject of this thread and have spend the entire time bashing the US... as if that would excuse such a blatant violation of civil rights as the blanket limiting of free speech in Germany.
 
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: BigJelly
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Ah yes, Germany, where they limit freedoms and throw people in jail so that no dictator will come and limit freedoms and throw people in jail.

That's sig worthy.

It sounds so stupid when you say it like that, but it's true.
Funny or scary? And even worse these are the countries that say we need more civil rights and need to be more open :Q.

A funny thing you will find about far leftists. They will decry ANY violation of civil rights in the US, no matter how small. But at the same time, they will praise what goes on in communist or totalitarian states, and forgive their egregious civil rights transgressions

History is filled with this with examples of the former USSR, North Korea, Communist Vietnam, Cambodia's Khmer Rouge and the most recent is Cuba.


are you funny right wingers talking about the totalitarian states like Pakistan and S-Arabia that the US is in bed with or are you talking about the "new europeans" like Berlusconi who spend a week on Bush his ranch. Of course you don't mind his coalition partner in his govt. is an openly neo-fascist. Yip, the right wackos in the US sure love a prime ministre who declared 2 weeks ago that Mussolini wasn't a real criminal because the concentration camps were more like summer camps. That's what your administration is calling the new europe, the shiny future of europe.

Funny thing about leftists, they don't know the difference between a libertarian, and a "right winger."

Hint: I'm far from a "right winger."

Grow up, freegeeks. Learn to address the topic, instead of continually bashing the US.
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: Lucky
well just shows they are stupid then.


I'm sure most Americans wouldn't even find Germany on a map ...

hell there was a National Geographics study a while back that showed thata significant portion of americans aged 18-24 couldn't even find their own country on a map

go figure

There you go again. The discussion is about Germany's restriction of free political speech. Yet you feel the need to switch topics and bash the US. Why?

I don't see you comment anything about my Guantanomo remark

That's not the subject of this thread. That's you trying to divert attention away from the subject of this thread. In fact, you've said little to nothing about the subject of this thread and have spend the entire time bashing the US... as if that would excuse such a blatant violation of civil rights as the blanket limiting of free speech in Germany.

but wouldn't what happened in germany be similar to our treatment of the N word, tho afaik no one has been jailed for calling a cop a "N".

 
so...yeah, its german law. been around for a while now. should have known better. they are very strict about that.
 
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