Dog the Bounty Hunter...

[MidasKnight]

Originally posted by: AUMM
:thumbsdown:

 

[Toonces]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: Svnla
No one in the right mind will say that rapist didn't deserve to be in jail.

In the other hand, how do you feel if some bounty hunters from another country come to the US and do whatever they please to catch the bad guys? <just like Dog did in Mexico>.

If a rapist from the US was up here in Canada (I'm sure some are) and a bounty hunter from the US came up here and dragged the bastard back over the border, well I would say 'thank you sir, thank you very much'.

sure, but what about the war deserters or those charged with "criminal" possession of Marijuana?
Rape is universally decried (by any civilized state) and morally is clearly considered wrong, but if you allow for breaches of sovereignty in one case, where's the line when US bounty hunters drag hundreds of people out of Canada for the two aforementioned "crimes"?

 

[randay]

So Im taking a head count, who will come with me to break Dog out of mexico? We might need a helicopter, that would be nice. Anyone?

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: UNESC0

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: Svnla
No one in the right mind will say that rapist didn't deserve to be in jail.

In the other hand, how do you feel if some bounty hunters from another country come to the US and do whatever they please to catch the bad guys? <just like Dog did in Mexico>.

If a rapist from the US was up here in Canada (I'm sure some are) and a bounty hunter from the US came up here and dragged the bastard back over the border, well I would say 'thank you sir, thank you very much'.

sure, but what about the war deserters or those charged with "criminal" possession of Marijuana?
Rape is universally decried (by any civilized state) and morally is clearly considered wrong, but if you allow for breaches of sovereignty in one case, where's the line when US bounty hunters drag hundreds of people out of Canada for the two aforementioned "crimes"?

I agree with you, it would have to be looked at on a case by case basis, but please feel free to come and take back as many rapists as you want, they are all yours.

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: randay
So Im taking a head count, who will come with me to break Dog out of mexico? We might need a helicopter, that would be nice. Anyone?

I prefer a van.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: randay
So Im taking a head count, who will come with me to break Dog out of mexico? We might need a helicopter, that would be nice. Anyone?

I prefer a van.

A-Team?

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN

Originally posted by: KK
This whole mexico deal is starting to piss me off. We need to kill every damn mexican crossing the border illegally. Yes, kill them. If they see that we are killing them, then maybe they won't continue crossing.

who is this we exactly...are you personally volunteering to murder innocent people coming over the border?

I don't see any problems with it. They are not innocent. There is no real way to punish them other then severe bodily harm.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: UNESC0

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: Svnla
No one in the right mind will say that rapist didn't deserve to be in jail.

In the other hand, how do you feel if some bounty hunters from another country come to the US and do whatever they please to catch the bad guys? <just like Dog did in Mexico>.

If a rapist from the US was up here in Canada (I'm sure some are) and a bounty hunter from the US came up here and dragged the bastard back over the border, well I would say 'thank you sir, thank you very much'.

sure, but what about the war deserters or those charged with "criminal" possession of Marijuana?
Rape is universally decried (by any civilized state) and morally is clearly considered wrong, but if you allow for breaches of sovereignty in one case, where's the line when US bounty hunters drag hundreds of people out of Canada for the two aforementioned "crimes"?

Good point. I think the bottom line is that Dog knew the laws and violated, and he should have to pay whatever penalty is given.

Sure he took a rapist, but is someone really arguing he did this simply to make the world a better place? I'm sure he's a good enough guy but he's not some hero. He did it for the money and possibly ego and fame.

 

[BooGiMaN]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN

Originally posted by: KK
This whole mexico deal is starting to piss me off. We need to kill every damn mexican crossing the border illegally. Yes, kill them. If they see that we are killing them, then maybe they won't continue crossing.

who is this we exactly...are you personally volunteering to murder innocent people coming over the border?

innocent of what, illegaly crossing the border. Get you head outta your stupid ass.

i think your the asswipe with his head up his ass you douchebag, and while they may be are breaking the law and maybe not innocent, which i admit i shouldnt have said now in hindisight, i want to see you have the balls to kill them...

and if your that much of a slimeball with no conscience over taking a human life especially over that type of crime then there is no helping you is there idiot

why not go out and kill rapist, child molesters and murders....that is..if you really have the balls to match your e-penis

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN

Originally posted by: KK
This whole mexico deal is starting to piss me off. We need to kill every damn mexican crossing the border illegally. Yes, kill them. If they see that we are killing them, then maybe they won't continue crossing.

who is this we exactly...are you personally volunteering to murder innocent people coming over the border?

innocent of what, illegaly crossing the border. Get you head outta your stupid ass.

i think your the asswipe with his head up his ass you douchebag, and while they may be are breaking the law and maybe not innocent, which i admit i shouldnt have said now in hindisight, i want to see you have the balls to kill them...

and if your that much of a slimeball with no conscience over taking a human life especially over that type of crime then there is no helping you is there idiot

why not go out and kill rapist, child molesters and murders....that is..if you really have the balls to match your e-penis

calm down beavis.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: UNESC0

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: Svnla
No one in the right mind will say that rapist didn't deserve to be in jail.

In the other hand, how do you feel if some bounty hunters from another country come to the US and do whatever they please to catch the bad guys? <just like Dog did in Mexico>.

If a rapist from the US was up here in Canada (I'm sure some are) and a bounty hunter from the US came up here and dragged the bastard back over the border, well I would say 'thank you sir, thank you very much'.

sure, but what about the war deserters or those charged with "criminal" possession of Marijuana?
Rape is universally decried (by any civilized state) and morally is clearly considered wrong, but if you allow for breaches of sovereignty in one case, where's the line when US bounty hunters drag hundreds of people out of Canada for the two aforementioned "crimes"?

Good point. I think the bottom line is that Dog knew the laws and violated, and he should have to pay whatever penalty is given.

Sure he took a rapist, but is someone really arguing he did this simply to make the world a better place? I'm sure he's a good enough guy but he's not some hero. He did it for the money and possibly ego and fame.

Honestly his reasons for doing it dont matter at all. He did something good and he doesnt deserve to be punished for it. This isnt being done for justice, its corrupt, dirty, and wrong. Thats all that really matters here.

 

[DainBramaged]

Count me in for the Dog prison break.

<dons 70's yellow sunglasses>

 

[compuwiz1]

Why can't he work out some kind of a plea deal, through his Mexican attorney, without having to step foot in Mexico?

I don't agree with the US's decision to cooperate with Mexico on this one. What dog did was worth way more good, than harm.

 

[akshatp]

Ratings. Thats what this is about.
As quoted in the article:

Huerta said illegal detention is a relatively minor crime in Mexico, and that if Chapman is convicted, he would likely only have to pay a fine of several hundred dollars.

So why is "Dog" fighting this so hard? If all he has to do is go there and pay a measly fine? Becuase, it makes for good publicity. Like the news article. Or this thread. More publicity = more ratings.

What a joke. I hope when he goes there they give him the maximum 4 years. He broke the law in a foreign country and then was arrogant about it. Throw the book at him.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: akshatp
Ratings. Thats what this is about.
As quoted in the article:

Huerta said illegal detention is a relatively minor crime in Mexico, and that if Chapman is convicted, he would likely only have to pay a fine of several hundred dollars.

So why is "Dog" fighting this so hard? If all he has to do is go there and pay a measly fine? Becuase, it makes for good publicity. Like the news article. Or this thread. More publicity = more ratings.

What a joke. I hope when he goes there they give him the maximum 4 years. He broke the law in a foreign country and then was arrogant about it. Throw the book at him.

Its because he will be held in a mexican jail when he gets there. A bounty hunter in a Mexican jail. What do you think will happen to him? Its not exactly an old folks home.

To put it plainly they are worried about his safety. I dont think they are worried about paying a fine.

 

[randay]

I mean come on, you think Mexico actually gives two sh!ts about Dog? If this rapist guy has enough money to make them give a sh!t and push so hard to have in extradited to mexico do you think he'll also have enough money to have him killed in prison?

 

[akshatp]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: akshatp
Ratings. Thats what this is about.
As quoted in the article:

Huerta said illegal detention is a relatively minor crime in Mexico, and that if Chapman is convicted, he would likely only have to pay a fine of several hundred dollars.

So why is "Dog" fighting this so hard? If all he has to do is go there and pay a measly fine? Becuase, it makes for good publicity. Like the news article. Or this thread. More publicity = more ratings.

What a joke. I hope when he goes there they give him the maximum 4 years. He broke the law in a foreign country and then was arrogant about it. Throw the book at him.

Its because he will be held in a mexican jail when he gets there. A bounty hunter in a Mexican jail. What do you think will happen to him? Its not exactly an old folks home.

To put it plainly they are worried about his safety. I dont think they are worried about paying a fine.

You are right they arent worried about paying a fine. They are worried about boosting their ratings.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: akshatp

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: akshatp
Ratings. Thats what this is about.
As quoted in the article:

Huerta said illegal detention is a relatively minor crime in Mexico, and that if Chapman is convicted, he would likely only have to pay a fine of several hundred dollars.

So why is "Dog" fighting this so hard? If all he has to do is go there and pay a measly fine? Becuase, it makes for good publicity. Like the news article. Or this thread. More publicity = more ratings.

What a joke. I hope when he goes there they give him the maximum 4 years. He broke the law in a foreign country and then was arrogant about it. Throw the book at him.

Its because he will be held in a mexican jail when he gets there. A bounty hunter in a Mexican jail. What do you think will happen to him? Its not exactly an old folks home.

To put it plainly they are worried about his safety. I dont think they are worried about paying a fine.

You are right they arent worried about paying a fine. They are worried about boosting their ratings.

Serious question for a second: Are you a serial rapist?

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: techs
Of course Dog nabbing Luster was a good thing,
However, consider what it would be like if someone from another country came to the U.S. and kidnapped a U.S. citizen based on some court in a country with a two bit criminal justice system. In fact, there are warrants for a number of U.S. officials already in effect in other countries. If Mexico didn't try and get Dog back, or if the U.S. didn't abide by its treaties, we would see an international free for all in bounty hunters.
That being said, the Mexican government should just let Dog plead guilty to some lesser offense, pay a fine and HIDE THEIR HEADS IN SHAME THAT LUSTER WAS ALLOWED TO LIVE IN MEXICO DESPITE HIS CONVICTIONS AND WITHOUT EVEN BOTHERING TO HIDE HIS TRAIL.

Not even the same thing. Luster wasn't a Mexican citizen. He was a US citizen hiding in Mexico.

If Mexico came over here and took back one of their own to face charges in Mexico I wouldn't care.

Well, you can just apply it then to an American visiting England, France, Germany, Canada, etc. Someone gets a judge in Kazahkstan to issue a warrant and someone comes from Kazakstan and kidnaps the American.

Also, I watched Dogs episode about the capture and did some reading about it. While Luster was not exactly in hiding there was no evidence that the Mexican authorities had any idea where he was in Mexico. I wonder what would have happened if Dog had just told the Mexican police he found Luster and where to find him? In the episode it was revealed that when the Mexican authorities arrested Dog, based on someone calling the cops reporting a kidnapping, that Dog told the Mexicans that he had Luster in the car. And the Mexican authorities arrested Luster and then extradited him to the U.S. Dog did not kidnap Luster and bring him back to the US. He kidnapped him and when Dog was caught the Mexican police were informed they had Luster, and they then did the right thing.

btw I watch Dogs show and find him to be a decent guy and I am impressed at his efforts to help the people he deals with.

 

[flashbacck]

Originally posted by: KK
This whole mexico deal is starting to piss me off. We need to kill every damn mexican crossing the border illegally. Yes, kill them. If they see that we are killing them, then maybe they won't continue crossing.

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul

 

[BooGiMaN]

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN

Originally posted by: KK

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN

Originally posted by: KK
This whole mexico deal is starting to piss me off. We need to kill every damn mexican crossing the border illegally. Yes, kill them. If they see that we are killing them, then maybe they won't continue crossing.

who is this we exactly...are you personally volunteering to murder innocent people coming over the border?

innocent of what, illegaly crossing the border. Get you head outta your stupid ass.

i think your the asswipe with his head up his ass you douchebag, and while they may be are breaking the law and maybe not innocent, which i admit i shouldnt have said now in hindisight, i want to see you have the balls to kill them...

and if your that much of a slimeball with no conscience over taking a human life especially over that type of crime then there is no helping you is there idiot

why not go out and kill rapist, child molesters and murders....that is..if you really have the balls to match your e-penis

calm down beavis.

no problem butthead

 

[akshatp]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: akshatp

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: akshatp
Ratings. Thats what this is about.
As quoted in the article:

Huerta said illegal detention is a relatively minor crime in Mexico, and that if Chapman is convicted, he would likely only have to pay a fine of several hundred dollars.

So why is "Dog" fighting this so hard? If all he has to do is go there and pay a measly fine? Becuase, it makes for good publicity. Like the news article. Or this thread. More publicity = more ratings.

What a joke. I hope when he goes there they give him the maximum 4 years. He broke the law in a foreign country and then was arrogant about it. Throw the book at him.

Its because he will be held in a mexican jail when he gets there. A bounty hunter in a Mexican jail. What do you think will happen to him? Its not exactly an old folks home.

To put it plainly they are worried about his safety. I dont think they are worried about paying a fine.

You are right they arent worried about paying a fine. They are worried about boosting their ratings.

Serious question for a second: Are you a serial rapist?

Yea, thats what my posts imply. Grow up sh|thead.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Fvck Mexico. I hope Dog wins his appeal. He "kidnapped" a convicted rapist.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Story

Personally, it's great that the scumbag he brought back is (and will remain) in jail... but the bottom line is that you can't just go to another country and ignore their laws, do as you please, kidnap people, and then complain when they want to toss you in prison.

I'm guessing he would normally not have gotten extradited, but the US does not want Mexico to stop extraditing drug lords and other such ilk, so they'll throw the Mexican government a bone (Dog - har har har).

I think our country and law enforcement should be fvcking ashamed of themselves for what they've done to this guy.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: techs
Of course Dog nabbing Luster was a good thing,
However, consider what it would be like if someone from another country came to the U.S. and kidnapped a U.S. citizen based on some court in a country with a two bit criminal justice system. In fact, there are warrants for a number of U.S. officials already in effect in other countries. If Mexico didn't try and get Dog back, or if the U.S. didn't abide by its treaties, we would see an international free for all in bounty hunters.
That being said, the Mexican government should just let Dog plead guilty to some lesser offense, pay a fine and HIDE THEIR HEADS IN SHAME THAT LUSTER WAS ALLOWED TO LIVE IN MEXICO DESPITE HIS CONVICTIONS AND WITHOUT EVEN BOTHERING TO HIDE HIS TRAIL.

Not even the same thing. Luster wasn't a Mexican citizen. He was a US citizen hiding in Mexico.

If Mexico came over here and took back one of their own to face charges in Mexico I wouldn't care.

Well, you can just apply it then to an American visiting England, France, Germany, Canada, etc. Someone gets a judge in Kazahkstan to issue a warrant and someone comes from Kazakstan and kidnaps the American.

Also, I watched Dogs episode about the capture and did some reading about it. While Luster was not exactly in hiding there was no evidence that the Mexican authorities had any idea where he was in Mexico. I wonder what would have happened if Dog had just told the Mexican police he found Luster and where to find him? In the episode it was revealed that when the Mexican authorities arrested Dog, based on someone calling the cops reporting a kidnapping, that Dog told the Mexicans that he had Luster in the car. And the Mexican authorities arrested Luster and then extradited him to the U.S. Dog did not kidnap Luster and bring him back to the US. He kidnapped him and when Dog was caught the Mexican police were informed they had Luster, and they then did the right thing.

btw I watch Dogs show and find him to be a decent guy and I am impressed at his efforts to help the people he deals with.

SHUT UP!
THERE IS NO ROOM FOR LOGIC OR EXTRA FACTS IN THIS THREAD.
WE MUST STICK TO THE FIRST WORDS OF THE STORY ABOUT DOG BEING PUT IN PRISON FOR CAPTURING A RAPIST AND COMPLAIN ABOUT INJUSTICE! THOSE ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT MATTER.