Does Vtec really kick in?

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BassBomb

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I would like some examples of cars without a version of VTEC.

You said all cars, Go back to 2000 not every car had one (VQ30 for example didn't have variable valve timing), same with 2005 Civic's you could get without VTEC

Maybe all new cars have it is the closer thing to claim
 

MJinZ

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You said all cars, Go back to 2000 not every car had one (VQ30 for example didn't have variable valve timing), same with 2005 Civic's you could get without VTEC

Maybe all new cars have it is the closer thing to claim

Well yes, I would hope/assume people do not include the Ford Model T and Mercedes K.
 

overst33r

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You said all cars, Go back to 2000 not every car had one (VQ30 for example didn't have variable valve timing), same with 2005 Civic's you could get without VTEC

Maybe all new cars have it is the closer thing to claim

It's not the VVT that causes the VTEC to kick in and make that "noise". It's the lift. Many cars don't have lift control.

Most cars have some sort of VVT, whether it be on the intake or exhaust, or both.
 

exar333

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Not to shatter anyone's perceptions, but VTEC basically makes a pretty slow motor into a less-slow motor. Even a mid-90's Prelude, that was pretty fun to drive only had ~195hp/155ft/lb torque (with VTEC kicked-in). That's not really a screaming machine....
 

Raduque

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I'd bet my Altima doesn't have VTEC. Especially considering VTEC is a Honda brand. :sneaky:
 

KIAman

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My wife's 2005 Civic EX has 2 VTEC points and I've floored that sucker harder than I can remember and can't feel a thing when VTEC kicks in.

The manual tells me there are 2 VTEC points in the RPM range but I can't feel a thing.
 

exar333

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Vtec_kick_in_yo.jpg

Or maybe the face is from a stage-2 or stage-3 twin-turbo setup, NOS, and engine customizations? :p

I think the "VTEC" roar wouldn't even matter too much with all the other enhancements.
 

overst33r

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My wife's 2005 Civic EX has 2 VTEC points and I've floored that sucker harder than I can remember and can't feel a thing when VTEC kicks in.

The manual tells me there are 2 VTEC points in the RPM range but I can't feel a thing.

You might not feel it, as i-vtec is pretty smooth, but you can definitely hear it.
 
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I prefer motors that don't need gimmicks to increase their power. I also like motors that have more displacement than the .99C 2L bottle of soda I bought at Walmart last night.
 

EightySix Four

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I prefer motors that don't need gimmicks to increase their power. I also like motors that have more displacement than the .99C 2L bottle of soda I bought at Walmart last night.

Don't group all 2L's in with that junk. I've got a direct injected 2l turbo making in excess of 300 rwhp and 375 rwtq with nothing but some serious tuning work and a few choice bolt ons. And the sucker in American made :p
 

BassBomb

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I prefer motors that don't need gimmicks to increase their power. I also like motors that have more displacement than the .99C 2L bottle of soda I bought at Walmart last night.

isn't it really a gimmick to reduce power at low rpm to save fuel or w/e rather than the other way around?
 

PricklyPete

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I prefer motors that don't need gimmicks to increase their power. I also like motors that have more displacement than the .99C 2L bottle of soda I bought at Walmart last night.

variable valve timing is not a gimmick no matter how many liters your engine displaces. It is a huge step for ICE development and is now used in most new passenger car engine design for this reason.