Does this scare the hell out of anyone else?

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: SweetSweetLeroyBrown
Doesn't scare me...and I pull in more than 100K year

The reason it doesn't scare me is because I don't expect to see a President Clark anytime soon.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I can't trust myself with my own money, so I welcome the government to manage it for me. I am just too wealthy, and my wealth makes me feel guilty.









Such is the thinking of 99.9% of the people living in MA.

Yeah that's why they elected a Republican Governor who slashed taxes.

 

[SweetSweetLeroyBrown]

you cock svckers think you can take money with you when you die? haha lol get over yourselves....half of you won't ever pull in more than 40k a year anyhow hahaha lol

 

[TommyVercetti]

Yes it does because someone thinks he can put up a fight against Bush and win. Bush is going to win.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
If I want to make $50k/year and have 4 children it's my god given right for rich people to pay for it

Better get Mrs Skoorb's approval :evil:

 

[TommyVercetti]

Originally posted by: SweetSweetLeroyBrown
you cock svckers think you can take money with you when you die? haha lol get over yourselves....half of you won't ever pull in more than 40k a year anyhow hahaha lol

hahahah lol hahha lollerblades hahah roflmao hahahah heheheh

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I can't trust myself with my own money, so I welcome the government to manage it for me. I am just too wealthy, and my wealth makes me feel guilty.









Such is the thinking of 99.9% of the people living in MA.

Yeah that's why they elected a Republican Governor who slashed taxes.

Impeach him!!!

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Wesley Clark's Tax Plan

Let me summarize it for those of you with the attention span of a child:

?My tax-reform plan is simple,? Clark said. ?Those who make the most should pay more. Those who make the least should pay less.?

Calling his plan ?the most sweeping tax reform this nation has seen in years,? the retired general said families of four that make less than $50,000 a year will not pay any income tax. All taxpaying families with children and making under $100,000 will get a tax cut.

...

To pay for changes in the tax code, Clark would repeal President Bush?s tax cuts for those making more than $200,000 a year. He would raise the tax rates another 5 percent for those who make $1 million or more each year.

Sooner or later we will be like England and Scandanavia.

soak the people who are making money to give to those who do not. Then the money people will leave, causing the soaking of the new middle class.

Trickle down economics

 

[ThaPerculator]

as somebody else said, why should somebody who has worked hard to make a lot of money and have the government come and take a nasty chunk of it away. THis is one reason i hate the Dems, if they had it their way we would the the USSA (United Socialist States of America)

Because the dude that physically busts his arse all day will never see $100k, while the executive complains that his foaming latte went up 20 cents and there is a luxury tax on his $80k car. The middle class is quickly vanishing, as the rich get richer and screw the middle class into becoming poor. (ahem look at the stock history of the last 5 years.... how many people got screwed on enron, kmart, etc. because of some bigwig exec making stupid decisions that effect people's lives).

No, i'm not a liberal or a wesley clark fan, but he does have a point.

 

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: ThaPerculator

Because the dude that physically busts his arse all day will never see $100k....

Sounds like good incentive to get an education. I'm sick of the victim mentality that says, I'm going to choose to make poor decisions in life so I have to work hard for no pay, and I want society to feel sorry for me.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: ThaPerculator

as somebody else said, why should somebody who has worked hard to make a lot of money and have the government come and take a nasty chunk of it away. THis is one reason i hate the Dems, if they had it their way we would the the USSA (United Socialist States of America)

Because the dude that physically busts his arse all day will never see $100k, while the executive complains that his foaming latte went up 20 cents and there is a luxury tax on his $80k car. The middle class is quickly vanishing, as the rich get richer and screw the middle class into becoming poor. (ahem look at the stock history of the last 5 years.... how many people got screwed on enron, kmart, etc. because of some bigwig exec making stupid decisions that effect people's lives).

No, i'm not a liberal or a wesley clark fan, but he does have a point.

No he doesn't. There isn't a linear relationship between hard work and money. Intelligence and ambition play as significant a role. If you aren't going to inform yourself and never take any risks, then you aren't going to see much money.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: ThaPerculator

as somebody else said, why should somebody who has worked hard to make a lot of money and have the government come and take a nasty chunk of it away. THis is one reason i hate the Dems, if they had it their way we would the the USSA (United Socialist States of America)

Because the dude that physically busts his arse all day will never see $100k, while the executive complains that his foaming latte went up 20 cents and there is a luxury tax on his $80k car. The middle class is quickly vanishing, as the rich get richer and screw the middle class into becoming poor. (ahem look at the stock history of the last 5 years.... how many people got screwed on enron, kmart, etc. because of some bigwig exec making stupid decisions that effect people's lives).

No, i'm not a liberal or a wesley clark fan, but he does have a point.

People got screwed on "Enron, KMart, etc." because they were STUPID. Anybody with an ounce of sense diversifies. Yes, they would have lost some but there would be no "screwing." People need to realize there is risk in the market. Do your research & invest carefully.

Viper GTS

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: ThaPerculator

as somebody else said, why should somebody who has worked hard to make a lot of money and have the government come and take a nasty chunk of it away. THis is one reason i hate the Dems, if they had it their way we would the the USSA (United Socialist States of America)

Because the dude that physically busts his arse all day will never see $100k, while the executive complains that his foaming latte went up 20 cents and there is a luxury tax on his $80k car. The middle class is quickly vanishing, as the rich get richer and screw the middle class into becoming poor. (ahem look at the stock history of the last 5 years.... how many people got screwed on enron, kmart, etc. because of some bigwig exec making stupid decisions that effect people's lives).

No, i'm not a liberal or a wesley clark fan, but he does have a point.

what point would that be??? Turing America into a true socialst society where the people with money are unjustly taxed just because they have more then joe/jane schmo with 3+ kids?

This is a free country you can pretty much do as you wish. YOU have the choice to either work hard and be successful in making money or you can not work hard and live under a bridge. Its your choice, do you really think redistributing the wealth of somebody who has worked hard for it and handing it to somebody who didnt just because they dont have as much fair?

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: ThaPerculator

as somebody else said, why should somebody who has worked hard to make a lot of money and have the government come and take a nasty chunk of it away. THis is one reason i hate the Dems, if they had it their way we would the the USSA (United Socialist States of America)

Because the dude that physically busts his arse all day will never see $100k, while the executive complains that his foaming latte went up 20 cents and there is a luxury tax on his $80k car. The middle class is quickly vanishing, as the rich get richer and screw the middle class into becoming poor. (ahem look at the stock history of the last 5 years.... how many people got screwed on enron, kmart, etc. because of some bigwig exec making stupid decisions that effect people's lives).

No, i'm not a liberal or a wesley clark fan, but he does have a point.

Many people that make over $100K do indeed work hard for the money. This includes any number of professionals in all kinds of jobs.

Corprate ethics or fraud are entirely different subjects.

 

[Viper GTS]

Damn, today is really not my day...

 

[Ime]

He won't be in the white house, so no it's doesn't scare me at all.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: SweetSweetLeroyBrown
you cock svckers think you can take money with you when you die? haha lol get over yourselves....half of you won't ever pull in more than 40k a year anyhow hahaha lol

What is your problem?

 

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: K1052

Many people that make over $100K do indeed work hard for the money. This includes any number of professionals in all kinds of jobs.

True. I'm tired of the argument that professionals who make good money have cush jobs because they don't sweat. Most professionals work very hard at what they do, and not all of them are stock brokers and lawyers. The doctor who saves lives makes $200K, and is rewarded by having half of that taken from him.

 

[FeathersMcGraw]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

People got screwed on "Enron, KMart, etc." because they were STUPID. Anybody with an ounce of sense diversifies. Yes, they would have lost some but there would be no "screwing." People need to realize there is risk in the market. Do your research & invest carefully.

While your point about unbridled greed and the necessity of research is certainly true, the problem with Enron is that they cooked the books, so their problems were not apparent to even those who were competently doing their due diligence.

 

[ScottyB]

Sounds fine to me. I would be willing to pay up to 75% of my income depending on my wealth. I feel that $50,000 is a little high though. That is bordering on rich. It should be up to $20,000 then the taxes should start to slide up 30% at $50,000+, 50% at $100,000+ and 75% at $1,000,000+.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: blazert40
I think its complete B.S. that this always comes up as a proposed plan, why should the people that make more be almost "punished" for doing so, it takes away all incentive to succeed.

Someone has to pay for the wars the US is waging.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: FeathersMcGraw

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

People got screwed on "Enron, KMart, etc." because they were STUPID. Anybody with an ounce of sense diversifies. Yes, they would have lost some but there would be no "screwing." People need to realize there is risk in the market. Do your research & invest carefully.

While your point about unbridled greed and the necessity of research is certainly true, the problem with Enron is that they cooked the books, so their problems were not apparent to even those who were competently doing their due diligence.

You apparently missed my biggest point, that anybody who invests intelligently would not allow the failure of a single company to destroy their financial future.

Viper GTS

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: ScottyB
Sounds fine to me. I would be willing to pay up to 75% of my income depending on my wealth.

Great. Then do so. Now. Voluntarily. You can do that you know. But don't force other people to. That's theft and it's wrong.

 

[SweetSweetLeroyBrown]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: FeathersMcGraw

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

People got screwed on "Enron, KMart, etc." because they were STUPID. Anybody with an ounce of sense diversifies. Yes, they would have lost some but there would be no "screwing." People need to realize there is risk in the market. Do your research & invest carefully.

While your point about unbridled greed and the necessity of research is certainly true, the problem with Enron is that they cooked the books, so their problems were not apparent to even those who were competently doing their due diligence.

You apparently missed my biggest point, that anybody who invests intelligently would not allow the failure of a single company to destroy their financial future.

Viper GTS

What about 4 companies?

Enron, Kmart, Tyco, Worldcom

 

[ScottyB]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: ScottyB
Sounds fine to me. I would be willing to pay up to 75% of my income depending on my wealth.

Great. Then do so. Now. Voluntarily. You can do that you know. But don't force other people to. That's theft and it's wrong.

I have no income and I am around $32,000 in debt so I highly doubt I could do that.