Does this mean my RAM is f'ed up?

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You really don't need to be running at 1600Mhz & 1.65v

Run CPU-z and see what the SPD is for those ICs, I bet you could run 1333Mhz at 1.5v @ CL9 or maybe CL8
 

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You really don't need to be running at 1600Mhz & 1.65v

Run CPU-z and see what the SPD is for those ICs, I bet you could run 1333Mhz at 1.5v @ CL9 or maybe CL8

It was running at 1333 at 1.5V. (How do u go 1600MHz anyway?). I'm thinking its the proc, It threw an error on Prime95 8 hours in (at 1.040 vCore) where before it went 24 hours on 0.950 vcore. I'll swap and try it anyway. Have to install my new slot load DVD-RW drive so half of it has to be taken apart.
 

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Try swapping out the PSU, too. Might be easier than swapping the board. I've had flaky PSUs produce similarly bizarre crashes. Are you plugged into a line regulator? How old's the wiring in your place?
 

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Try swapping out the PSU, too. Might be easier than swapping the board. I've had flaky PSUs produce similarly bizarre crashes. Are you plugged into a line regulator? How old's the wiring in your place?

I'll try that, I'm in an apartment, all my equipment is on surge protectors, never had any voltage fluctuations. Will try it with a Seasonic PSU later. But I'm pretty sure its the motherboard. Errors were consistent in that they happened when I tried to start a program (any program), but during any and all stress tests, the system was stable.
 
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1600 CL9 1.65V is quite normal as it is a performance setting. 1333 CL9 at anywhere above 1.5V is not, this is a generic setting on the SPD, should never have to run above 1.5V or you have defective RAM.
 

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1600 CL9 1.65V is quite normal as it is a performance setting. 1333 CL9 at anywhere above 1.5V is not, this is a generic setting on the SPD, should never have to run above 1.5V or you have defective RAM.

It wasn't the RAM acting up (as already proven) but the mobo was defective. It was crashing even with a different set of RAM and a different CPU and a different SSD.
 

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I'm in an apartment, all my equipment is on surge protectors, never had any voltage fluctuations.
* How would you know that your building hasn't had any voltage fluctuations?
* How many joules and how old are those surge protectors?
 

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What RAM do you have?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-402-_-Product


I am going to se what this memtest hci does for me.

for some reason I cant get to gskills website or I would start the RMA process on them. I am very tempted to buy a decent 4gb ddr3 set to try for a while. incase they wont advanced RMA the memory for me.


and if that doesnt do it, a i3-2100.

I dont know what intel is going to say about RMA'ing a 2500K, since I ran it up to 4ghz for a little while a few months ago, before I turned it back down to stock speeds

since I have already tried different GPU's, a new mobo, and SSD
 

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* How would you know that your building hasn't had any voltage fluctuations?
* How many joules and how old are those surge protectors?


Surge protector is brand new. About never having surges, I think I have about twice a year, typically in the summer when the heat is too much. Dad is an electrician and he ruled that out.
 

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-402-_-Product


I am going to se what this memtest hci does for me.

for some reason I cant get to gskills website or I would start the RMA process on them. I am very tempted to buy a decent 4gb ddr3 set to try for a while. incase they wont advanced RMA the memory for me.


and if that doesnt do it, a i3-2100.

I dont know what intel is going to say about RMA'ing a 2500K, since I ran it up to 4ghz for a little while a few months ago, before I turned it back down to stock speeds

since I have already tried different GPU's, a new mobo, and SSD

Gskill.com seems to be down. Your should be able to do the RMA since that professor is advertised specifically as having overclocking as a feature. Anyway, it can't hurt to try.
 

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Surge protector is brand new. About never having surges, I think I have about twice a year, typically in the summer when the heat is too much. Dad is an electrician and he ruled that out.


But a surge protector does nothing about voltage fluctuations, esp. when the elec. is under load. All a surge protector is good for is trying to clamp down a big inrush of current. A UPS with AVR, on the other hand, will level your voltage out to 115V, despite what's coming through the lines.
 

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But a surge protector does nothing about voltage fluctuations, esp. when the elec. is under load. All a surge protector is good for is trying to clamp down a big inrush of current. A UPS with AVR, on the other hand, will level your voltage out to 115V, despite what's coming through the lines.

This, this, this. Surge protector =! line/voltage regulator. Since most of my friends are college students living in old-ass apartments with shitacular wiring, I recommend line regulators very strongly. Hell, I often assume this is the problem first when troubleshooting for people who live in older places.
 

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Surge protector is brand new. About never having surges, I think I have about twice a year, typically in the summer when the heat is too much. Dad is an electrician and he ruled that out.
Did your dad monitor the building voltage with some type of voltage monitoring device over a period of time?
Watching for light bulbs flickering can't be a reliable measure of voltage fluctuation.
 

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This, this, this. Surge protector =! line/voltage regulator. Since most of my friends are college students living in old-ass apartments with shitacular wiring, I recommend line regulators very strongly. Hell, I often assume this is the problem first when troubleshooting for people who live in older places.

Can you recommend a decent regulator? Just for my computers (2 rigs, non-gaming very light usage and a PS3 and and 2 monitors). Have no TV in the house or anything else.


Did your dad monitor the building voltage with some type of voltage monitoring device over a period of time?
Watching for light bulbs flickering can't be a reliable measure of voltage fluctuation.

We did. Our average reading was within spec 99.999 % of the time. My build never crashed when it was under a stress test, ever. It always crashed during POST or right after the welcome screen, once or twice it crashed after I stopped Prime95 and went to start another app. Our wiring is also pretty good and building isn't very old.

Anywho, every other build I've done has never been a problem. It isn't the first time I've had a faulty mobo. I've had to replace one motherboard and one processor (seperate builds) within the last 3 months.
 
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Got the Foxconn H67S (budget H67 board) and so far so good. No sudden crashes or anything of the sort.

The only thing I'm trying to figure out if it has is voltage control. A quick look through bios didn't reveal much.
 

gamefreakgcb

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That's a good start, man :thumbsup:

I was also able to install A Scythe Schruiken on it. Had to cut off the extended portion of the ODD/HDD tray but I don't see why it was even there in the first place. Running solid now, but of course I'll use it over the weekend and see how it runs but so far it looks promising.