does islam tell it's followers to kill infidels?

[Jimzz]

Nobody expects...



I've read through the New Testament a few times and I have never seen anything that encourages forced conversions or burning those who are not true converts but it happened. The religion gets warped by those in power for other purposes.

Problem is many Christians use the old testament wen it suites them but ignores the parts about killing others in it when it does not.

So saying Thats Old testament so it does not count... yet juding others by the old testament when it suites them. And there is PLENTY of kill those SOBs in the old testament.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Achtiname of Muhammad

The Achtiname of Muhammad, also known as the Covenant or (Holy) Testament (Testamentum) of Muhammad, is a document or ahdname which is a charter or writ ratified by the Islamic Prophet Muhammad granting protection and other privileges to the monks of Saint Catherine's Monastery, Mount Sinai. It is sealed with an imprint representing Muhammad's hand

"This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah, as a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them, because Christians are my citizens; and by Allah! I hold out against anything that displeases them. No compulsion is to be on them. Neither are their judges to be removed from their jobs nor their monks from their monasteries. No one is to destroy a house of their religion, to damage it, or to carry anything from it to the Muslims' houses. Should anyone take any of these, he would spoil God's covenant and disobey His Prophet. Verily, they are my allies and have my secure charter against all that they hate. No one is to force them to travel or to oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected. They are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor the sacredness of their covenants. No one of the nation (Muslims) is to disobey the covenant till the Last Day (end of the world)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achtiname_of_Muhammad

 

[JTsyo]

Problem is many Christians use the old testament wen it suites them but ignores the parts about killing others in it when it does not.

So saying Thats Old testament so it does not count... yet juding others by the old testament when it suites them. And there is PLENTY of kill those SOBs in the old testament.

Well God the Father is not a Christian. You can see a huge change in things between the OT and NT. In fact if Jesus ran things, I doubt God would even make it to heaven.

 

[JamesV]

Just about every religion has literal quotes that say 'kill anyone that doesn't believe what you are reading'. Often with brutal ways of doing it; fire, beheading, stoning, etc.

'Thou shalt not kill... [unless of course it's somebody that believes differently than you, or God tells you to]'.

 

[DesiPower]

Posting in epic troll thread

 

[DesiPower]

Just about every religion has literal quotes that say 'kill anyone that doesn't believe what you are reading'. Often with brutal ways of doing it; fire, beheading, stoning, etc.

'Thou shalt not kill... [unless of course it's somebody that believes differently than you, or God tells you to]'.

Buddhism doesn't neither does Hinduism, not atleast for not believing in our god...

 

[datalink7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad

Short answer - No.

"Hey, is you're name Mike or Tom?"

"Short answer - No."

:hmm:

 

[Oyeve]

christianity says so as well; it's just that we've grown out of the "murder the heathen " phase.

"we?" Dont lump me in that BS religion! 🙂

 

[Fritzo]

Problem is many Christians use the old testament wen it suites them but ignores the parts about killing others in it when it does not.

So saying Thats Old testament so it does not count... yet juding others by the old testament when it suites them. And there is PLENTY of kill those SOBs in the old testament.

Most Christians follow the New Testament and use the Old Testament for parables. The ones that follow the Old Testament tend to be the crazy Christians that everyone stereotypes.

 

[Jimzz]

Most Christians follow the New Testament and use the Old Testament for parables. The ones that follow the Old Testament tend to be the crazy Christians that everyone stereotypes.

Last I checked pretty much all anti-gay's use the old testament, see a whole political party even, and there's a LOT of them. Unless you mean a very large number of Christians are crazy. :whiste:
Mind you if you through other parts back at them then they change on THOSE parts.

 

[D1gger]

Bingo.

Has your Christian/Jewish wife looked at another man with longing eyes? Better stone her to death.

Shit! I guess I have to stop at the gravel pit on my way home from work today to pick up some stones. :\

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Last I checked pretty much all anti-gay's use the old testament, see a whole political party even, and there's a LOT of them. Unless you mean a very large number of Christians are crazy. :whiste:
Mind you if you through other parts back at them then they change on THOSE parts.

Then you never checked. The only passage that is undeniably in regards to and prescribes punishment for homosexuality is in the OT, but both books make about the same number of references, which is to say, not many.

Then there's this little gem.

It is argued that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah had never been interpreted as relating to one single particular sin, until Byzantine emperor Justinian the Great instituted two law novellizations, in the 6th century.[8][9][10] Regarding the Corpus iuris civilis, Justinian's novels no. 77 (dating 538) and no. 141 (dating 559) was the first to declare that Sodom's sin had been specifically same-sex activities. His agenda was to create homosexual scapegoats to blame for recent earthquakes and other disasters of his time, but most of all, to enact anti-homosexual laws against political opponents or people for whom he needed to prove as guilty. Regarding the death penalty, Justinian's legal novels heralded a change in the Roman legal paradigm by introducing the concept of not divine punishment for homosexual behavior. Individuals might escape mundane laws, however divine laws were inescapable if Justinian declared his novels to be such.
Justinian's interpretation of the story of Sodom would be forgotten today (as it had been along with his law novellizations regarding homosexual behavior immediately after his death) had it not been made use of in fake Charlemagnian capitularies, fabricated by a Frankish monk using the pseudonym Benedictus Levita ("Benedict the Levite") around 850 CE, as part of the Pseudo-Isidore where Benedictus utilized Justinian's interpretation as a justification for ecclesiastical supremacy over mundane institutions, thereby demanding burning at the stake for carnal sins in the name of Charlemagne himself (burning had been part of the standard penalty for homosexual behavior particularly common in Germanic antiquity, note that Benedictus most probably was Frankish), especially homosexuality, for the first time in ecclesiastical history in order to protect all Christianity from divine punishments such as natural disasters for carnal sins committed by individuals, but also for heresy, superstition and heathenry. According to Benedictus, this was why all mundane institutions had to be subjected to ecclesiastical power in order to prevent moral as well as religious laxity causing divine wrath.
During the Roman Republic and pre-Christian Roman Empire, homosexual behavior had been acceptable as long as the adult male citizen took the penetrative role with a passive partner of lower social status. Laws regulating homosexuality were directed primarily at protecting underage male citizens. Those who committed a sex crime (stuprum) against a freeborn male minor were penalized by death or a fine, depending on the circumstances. Letters written to Cicero suggest that the law was used primarily to harass political opponents, and may have been applied also to citizens who willingly took the passive role in sex acts (see Sexuality in ancient Rome and Lex Scantinia).​

Most anti-homosexual stuff comes from sources outside the Bible.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Shit! I guess I have to stop at the gravel pit on my way home from work today to pick up some stones. :\

And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this thy hand grenade, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the Lord did grin. And the people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats, and large chu...

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