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does islam tell it's followers to kill infidels?

It's a lot of different factors, among them cultural influence overtaking and often replacing religion over a long period of time, and then you have poorly done translations from the source to other languages.
 
Of course it does. Christianity has all kinds of horrific edicts as well. Most muslims are like most christians though. They do more or less what they want and ignore the stuff that is too inconvenient in modern times.

The people who are dangerous are the ones who "really" believe what they say they believe.
 
Does it tell them to? Yes, yes it does. You can Google this and see for yourself.

At this point, you can argue the interpretation all you want - the facts are, regardless of how you interpret it - they ARE doing it and often, in the name of all-ahhhh.
 
brainhulk said:
Does it particularly say that? Or is it just extremists making stuff up?
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Nobody expects...

Tens of thousands of Jews were baptised in the three months before the deadline for expulsion, some 40,000 if one accepts the totals given by Kamen: most of these undoubtedly to avoid expulsion, rather than as a sincere change of faith. These conversos were the principal concern of the Inquisition; being suspected of continuing to practice Judaism put them at risk of denunciation and trial.

The most intense period of persecution of conversos lasted until 1530. From 1531 to 1560, however, the percentage of conversos among the Inquisition trials dropped to 3% of the total. There was a rebound of persecutions when a group of crypto-Jews was discovered in Quintanar de la Orden in 1588; and there was a rise in denunciations of conversos in the last decade of the 16th century. At the beginning of the 17th century, some conversos who had fled to Portugal began to return to Spain, fleeing the persecution of the Portuguese Inquisition, founded in 1536. This led to a rapid increase in the trials of crypto-Jews, among them a number of important financiers. In 1691, during a number of autos-da-fé in Majorca, 36 chuetas, or conversos of Majorca, were burned.

During the 18th century the number of conversos accused by the Inquisition decreased significantly. Manuel Santiago Vivar, tried in Córdoba in 1818, was the last person tried for being a crypto-Jew.

The generally accepted number burnt at the stake by the Inquisition (including all categories such as Protestants, blasphemers, bigamists and crypto-Jews) is below 5,000
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I've read through the New Testament a few times and I have never seen anything that encourages forced conversions or burning those who are not true converts but it happened. The religion gets warped by those in power for other purposes.
 
Fritzo said:
The best description I've read:

"Extremists are to Islam what Westboro Baptist Church is to Christians".
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Not even close. If the Westboro Baptist Church members start to cut off girls' noses or blowing up bystanders in a marathon, then we can start to compare.
 
SlitheryDee said:
Of course it does. Christianity has all kinds of horrific edicts as well. Most muslims are like most christians though. They do more or less what they want and ignore the stuff that is too inconvenient in modern times.

The people who are dangerous are the ones who "really" believe what they say they believe.
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This, + the parts you believe in are still subject to interpretation, whatever they say about it it's still interpretation.
 
1. You have to pray. Sometimes the creator of the universe has trouble figuring stuff out so we have to do it for him.

2. If god doesn't murder the homos/inifidels/heathens/* it's our job to help him out! All HE knows how to do is create universes. It's our job to clean it up for him! Grab a pitchfork today!

*insert name of group we want to murder today
 
Fritzo said:
The best description I've read:

"Extremists are to Islam what Westboro Baptist Church is to Christians".
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Aside from the fact that WBC has never hurt or killed anyone to my knowledge. They're just annoying.

Christians certainly do have a lot of blood on their hands. Though oftern they use it as an excuse for why they do what they do. Spreading god and what not. Islam has always endorsed conquest to spread the religion. Certainly enough Imams calling for the murder of infidels.
 
There is actually no religion. It's sheep following sheep following more sheep. If there actually was religion, then the world wouldn't be as bad as it is now.

These books are meant to be taken figuratively anyway. Too bad many of the so-called greatest followers of these religions don't even read them but instead follow some so-called Imam, Guru, Priest etc.
 
The Qur'an is the culmination of the Abrahamic tradition. Thus, Muslims believe that the Qur'an is the completion of God's message to humanity. Muslims also believe that the Qur'an has been preserved in its original form since its revelation over 1400 years ago. Unlike the Bible, the Qur'an has not been altered by human hands. For Muslims, this is a miracle and proof of God's concern for humanity.

The short answer is no.
The Qur'an does not teach that "infidels" should be killed, or converted as a matter of principle.

This may help too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iqYNydEH5Sk

http://islamnewsroom.com/answers/61-why-do-muslims-kill-infidels
 
mmntech said:
Aside from the fact that WBC has never hurt or killed anyone to my knowledge. They're just annoying.

Christians certainly do have a lot of blood on their hands. Though oftern they use it as an excuse for why they do what they do. Spreading god and what not. Islam has always endorsed conquest to spread the religion. Certainly enough Imams calling for the murder of infidels.
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Christians have a lot of blood on their hands....from 100's of years ago. I don't think the Christian population has waged war in modern times.
 
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