Does drinking diet soda keep weight on?

[SAWYER]

I have started to exercise , bike riding etc and I have always just drank diet, is it better to eliminate diet all together? What negative effects does it have on the body?

 

[MegaVovaN]

Drop soda altogether.

Aspartame in diet is a killer. Arguably regular is better than diet...

http://www.myaspartameexperiment.com/


As for whether it keeps weight on depends on calories burned and calories in...

edit:
http://worldfitnessnetwork.com...junk-food-sweets-stop/

 

[KoolDrew]

Will it effect weight gain/loss? No.
Will it effect health? Yes.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew
Will it effect weight gain/loss? No.
Will it effect health? Yes.

Simplest, and best answer that could be given. Drop the soda/carbonate drinks/caffeinated drinks altogether.

 

[nervegrind3r]

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: KoolDrew
Will it effect weight gain/loss? No.
Will it effect health? Yes.

Simplest, and best answer that could be given. Drop the soda/carbonate drinks/caffeinated drinks altogether.

what he said, h20 is all you need. drop the other stuff altogether.

 

[BigPoppa]

Originally posted by: MegaVovaN
Drop soda altogether.

Aspartame in diet is a killer. Arguably regular is better than diet...

http://www.myaspartameexperiment.com/


As for whether it keeps weight on depends on calories burned and calories in...

edit:
http://worldfitnessnetwork.com...junk-food-sweets-stop/

The aspartame experiment has some flaws. At my bodyweight it would take roughly 110 packets of Nutrisweet to equal the dosage given to the rats. Nice, eh? I'm not arguing for/against diet soda here. I just really dislike sensationalist "science".

 

[ranmaniac]

I would try to minimize your diet soda intake, and at least make sure your getting enough water in daily.

I stopped drinking regular soda back in January, lost 10 pounds within 2 months, and drink about 2 liters of water per day.

 

[superstition]

Watch out for sodium benzoate in soda. It's not particularly healthy. Very few sodas lack it (like original Coke). Also, there are few sodas that use sucrose (regular table sugar) instead of high fructose corn syrup (which is bad). It's better to just get carbonated water and add it to juices/juice syrups.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: superstition
Watch out for sodium benzoate in soda. It's not particularly healthy. Very few sodas lack it (like original Coke). Also, there are few sodas that use sucrose (regular table sugar) instead of high fructose corn syrup (which is bad). It's better to just get carbonated water and add it to juices/juice syrups.

Or to not do either. The carbonation plays with your pH a bit (I would think) and is bad for your teeth/bones. The juices/juice syrups are still bad for you too since they're high in processed sugar. Just sayin.

 

[Special K]

Originally posted by: BigPoppa

Originally posted by: MegaVovaN
Drop soda altogether.

Aspartame in diet is a killer. Arguably regular is better than diet...

http://www.myaspartameexperiment.com/


As for whether it keeps weight on depends on calories burned and calories in...

edit:
http://worldfitnessnetwork.com...junk-food-sweets-stop/

The aspartame experiment has some flaws. At my bodyweight it would take roughly 110 packets of Nutrisweet to equal the dosage given to the rats. Nice, eh? I'm not arguing for/against diet soda here. I just really dislike sensationalist "science".

The aspartame debate has been beaten to death in ATOT if you do a search. Amused showed that their is no peer-reviewed research demonstrating that aspartame is harmful to humans.

 

[irishScott]

Originally posted by: nervegrind3r

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: KoolDrew
Will it effect weight gain/loss? No.
Will it effect health? Yes.

Simplest, and best answer that could be given. Drop the soda/carbonate drinks/caffeinated drinks altogether.

what he said, h20 is all you need. drop the other stuff altogether.

Actually several cups of Green, White, or Rooibos (Red) tea can vastly improve your health. Keep in mind that this is fresh, brewed tea. Not the sugar-coated crap they sell in most grocery stores.

Pure fruit juice is also good, but once again companies like Ocean Spray add mucho sugar and all but cancel out the benefits.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: BigPoppa

Originally posted by: MegaVovaN
Drop soda altogether.

Aspartame in diet is a killer. Arguably regular is better than diet...

http://www.myaspartameexperiment.com/


As for whether it keeps weight on depends on calories burned and calories in...

edit:
http://worldfitnessnetwork.com...junk-food-sweets-stop/

The aspartame experiment has some flaws. At my bodyweight it would take roughly 110 packets of Nutrisweet to equal the dosage given to the rats. Nice, eh? I'm not arguing for/against diet soda here. I just really dislike sensationalist "science".

The aspartame debate has been beaten to death in ATOT if you do a search. Amused showed that their is no peer-reviewed research demonstrating that aspartame is harmful to humans.

Well, sure, let's even take the potentially harmful effects of aspartame out of the picture. You still have carbonic acid ruining your teeth and depleting your bones of calcium. You still have caffeine, which has been proven in studies to raise blood pressure and heart rate for prolonged periods of time. You also, often times, have the addictive or habitual tendencies for relying on soda, whether diet or not, to replenish your water supply, which is far less healthy than water itself would be. The argument is still fairly strong to not drink it.

 

[superstition]

The juices/juice syrups are still bad for you too since they're high in processed sugar.

If you get 100% juice syrups, then it's just as much sugar as a fruit, if it's diluted.

 

[MegaVovaN]

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Well, sure, let's even take the potentially harmful effects of aspartame out of the picture. You still have carbonic acid ruining your teeth and depleting your bones of calcium. You still have caffeine, which has been proven in studies to raise blood pressure and heart rate for prolonged periods of time. You also, often times, have the addictive or habitual tendencies for relying on soda, whether diet or not, to replenish your water supply, which is far less healthy than water itself would be. The argument is still fairly strong to not drink it.

Carbonic Acid is not as bad as industry-strength Phosphoric Acid

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: superstition

The juices/juice syrups are still bad for you too since they're high in processed sugar.

If you get 100% juice syrups, then it's just as much sugar as a fruit, if it's diluted.

I've taken to buying low sugar juices.
Regular has as much sugar in it as coke etc, but low sugar has only about half that amount, plus I limit my juice intake to ~1 glass a day.

 

[Bateluer]

I'd cut all soda's from your diet entirely, they are very unhealthy. Unless you're doing long distance running, greater than 10mi, all you need is water.

For a little variation though, I stick with all natural fruit juice.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: MegaVovaN

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Well, sure, let's even take the potentially harmful effects of aspartame out of the picture. You still have carbonic acid ruining your teeth and depleting your bones of calcium. You still have caffeine, which has been proven in studies to raise blood pressure and heart rate for prolonged periods of time. You also, often times, have the addictive or habitual tendencies for relying on soda, whether diet or not, to replenish your water supply, which is far less healthy than water itself would be. The argument is still fairly strong to not drink it.

Carbonic Acid is not as bad as industry-strength Phosphoric Acid

See, I don't even understand why phosphoric acid should be in the soda. That doesn't carbonate the soda and I don't think people are drinking phosphorated soda

 

[MegaVovaN]

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: MegaVovaN

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Well, sure, let's even take the potentially harmful effects of aspartame out of the picture. You still have carbonic acid ruining your teeth and depleting your bones of calcium. You still have caffeine, which has been proven in studies to raise blood pressure and heart rate for prolonged periods of time. You also, often times, have the addictive or habitual tendencies for relying on soda, whether diet or not, to replenish your water supply, which is far less healthy than water itself would be. The argument is still fairly strong to not drink it.

Carbonic Acid is not as bad as industry-strength Phosphoric Acid

See, I don't even understand why phosphoric acid should be in the soda. That doesn't carbonate the soda and I don't think people are drinking phosphorated soda

It provides a "tangy" taste, and, being a mass-produced chemical, is available cheaply and in large quantities. The low cost and bulk availability is unlike more expensive natural seasonings that give comparable flavors, such as ginger for tangyness, or citric acid for sourness, obtainable from lemons and limes. (However most citric acid in the food industry is not extracted from citrus fruit, but fermented by Aspergillus niger mold from scrap molasses, waste starch hydrolysates and phosphoric acid.) It is labeled as E number E338.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Originally posted by: MegaVovaN

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged

Originally posted by: MegaVovaN

Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Well, sure, let's even take the potentially harmful effects of aspartame out of the picture. You still have carbonic acid ruining your teeth and depleting your bones of calcium. You still have caffeine, which has been proven in studies to raise blood pressure and heart rate for prolonged periods of time. You also, often times, have the addictive or habitual tendencies for relying on soda, whether diet or not, to replenish your water supply, which is far less healthy than water itself would be. The argument is still fairly strong to not drink it.

Carbonic Acid is not as bad as industry-strength Phosphoric Acid

See, I don't even understand why phosphoric acid should be in the soda. That doesn't carbonate the soda and I don't think people are drinking phosphorated soda

It provides a "tangy" taste, and, being a mass-produced chemical, is available cheaply and in large quantities. The low cost and bulk availability is unlike more expensive natural seasonings that give comparable flavors, such as ginger for tangyness, or citric acid for sourness, obtainable from lemons and limes. (However most citric acid in the food industry is not extracted from citrus fruit, but fermented by Aspergillus niger mold from scrap molasses, waste starch hydrolysates and phosphoric acid.) It is labeled as E number E338.

Thank ya. I skimmed through it but couldn't find that part. WTF man, eff that.

 

[gramboh]

A friend of mine who is in med school showed me some research about the effect of artificial sweeteners in terms of insulin spiking and that they can impact your diet in a similar way to consuming large amounts of sugar. I can't find the abstract now but I will look for it. The simplest answer is minimize consumption. I used to drink a fair amount of soft drinks, now I just drink diet coke once in a while, maybe once a week I will have a glass or two out for dinner, but I try to stick with water, vodka+water or a glass of red wine at restaurants.

 

[superstition]

A friend of mine who is in med school showed me some research about the effect of artificial sweeteners in terms of insulin spiking and that they can impact your diet in a similar way to consuming large amounts of sugar.

I've actually theorized about that. The body evolved to react to real sugars and when presented with a fake non-caloric sweetener, the body may react the same way (insulin). This may be linked with what I've heard also - that artificial sweeteners cause people to crave sugar, probably because the body is waiting for the real fix.

 

[jiggahertz]

Originally posted by: gramboh
A friend of mine who is in med school showed me some research about the effect of artificial sweeteners in terms of insulin spiking and that they can impact your diet in a similar way to consuming large amounts of sugar. I can't find the abstract now but I will look for it. The simplest answer is minimize consumption. I used to drink a fair amount of soft drinks, now I just drink diet coke once in a while, maybe once a week I will have a glass or two out for dinner, but I try to stick with water, vodka+water or a glass of red wine at restaurants.

I would be interesting in seeing the reference if you find it. Most of the studies I've come across do not show a significant increase in total insulin response and no difference in peak insulin levels. I think I've heard mention of what you are referring to on mainstream news, but never heard the results of the corresponding study. Susanne Holt who has done work on the insulin index maintains high protein foods are likely to produce more of an insulin release than aspartame.