Does anyone remember the thread where someone posted on AT asking for HWK help and then another member reported him

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halik

Lifer
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Gotta love the high and might moral police... some people need to get a life. I'm sure none of you have ever cheated on anything :roll:
 

SampSon

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: SampSon
I never knew asking your peers for help on school assignments was against the rules.
Times must have changed since I was in school.

IIRC, the kid wasn't asking for help on homework, he was offering to pay people to do it for him.
Ah, I suppose that gets close to crossing the line.
I wonder how many schools have rules about outsourcing.
If it was a business student they would probably get extra credit for doing that.
 

wyvrn

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Dude Loke and Minendo are losers. Get a life.

Minendo was just screwing with the guy to make him sweat and teach him a badly needed lesson, he didn't turn him in.

Why did Minendo need to teach anyone a lesson? If someone cheats they usually learn their lesson the hard way. What business is it of Minendo's? Does he get a gold star or something?

The kid posted on a message board asking people to help him cheat... if it was nobody's "business" but his own, he shouldn't have posted it on a message board.

Or should people be free from criticism? :roll:


Ok I could understand criticism and even people harranging him about it. But what business is it of people to report it to his school? What do they get out of it, some sense of pride or something? Who cares? Do we get merit badges now for reporting cheaters on the Internet?

They probably got out of it what you get out of defending the cheating kid. Except your since of morality is a bit more twisted.


No morality involved. Just logic. Try again, please.
 

wyvrn

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: thepd7
I love how 90% of ATOT says mind your own business to someone thinking of telling a guy his wife is cheating and yet they stand up for someone who turned in a guy cheating on friking HW. That's rich. Although wyvrn doesn't sound like someone I like he is still correct. If you feel the need to turn someone in who is cheating that isn't at your school and you don't even know you are on a power trip, plain and simple.


Thanks for your opinion. In reality I am a normal nice guy and don't condone cheating. It is just that in this case I think people went too far. They are asserting their moral principals on someone else with whom they have not relation to or nothing to lose from the situation. I don't have a need for that, personally, and it was offensive if the behavior were true.
 

wyvrn

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Dude Loke and Minendo are losers. Get a life.

Minendo is far from a loser and LoKe later apologized for his actions. Move on.

Your opinion. And I will comment on any damn thing I please, thank you.





Are you sure about that?
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ATOT Mod(s)

I don't appreciate someone telling me to shut up just because they don't agree with my opinion. After all they expressed theirs freely. Maybe it is because you agree with his stance?

Hey, if you want to ban me for having a valid opinion on someone else's topic, be my guest. It has never been my policy to back away from free speech. If ATOT doesn't allow that in a fair way, then do what you have to do and I'll roll on down the road, no regrets.
 

Kelvrick

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Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Dude Loke and Minendo are losers. Get a life.

Minendo is far from a loser and LoKe later apologized for his actions. Move on.

Your opinion. And I will comment on any damn thing I please, thank you.





Are you sure about that?
AnandTech Moderator

ATOT Mod(s)

I don't appreciate someone telling me to shut up just because they don't agree with my opinion. After all they expressed theirs freely. Maybe it is because you agree with his stance?

Hey, if you want to ban me for having a valid opinion on someone else's topic, be my guest. It has never been my policy to back away from free speech. If ATOT doesn't allow that in a fair way, then do what you have to do and I'll roll on down the road, no regrets.

I think that was directed more towards you commenting on anything you want and not your opinions, unless they're racist, sexist, etc. Other then that, this is a private board.
 

SirStev0

Lifer
Nov 13, 2003
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: SampSon
I never knew asking your peers for help on school assignments was against the rules.
Times must have changed since I was in school.

IIRC, the kid wasn't asking for help on homework, he was offering to pay people to do it for him.

I was actually seconds from asking the very same question. thank you for clearing that up.
 

toolboxolio

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Atot is notorious for having a bunch of High n Mighty narcs about anything.

There are tons of people who report any posts that aren't g-rated.

I can see a few of them being so extreme as to take it to another level and pwn a member in real life.
 

wyvrn

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Dude Loke and Minendo are losers. Get a life.

Minendo is far from a loser and LoKe later apologized for his actions. Move on.

Your opinion. And I will comment on any damn thing I please, thank you.





Are you sure about that?
AnandTech Moderator

ATOT Mod(s)

I don't appreciate someone telling me to shut up just because they don't agree with my opinion. After all they expressed theirs freely. Maybe it is because you agree with his stance?

Hey, if you want to ban me for having a valid opinion on someone else's topic, be my guest. It has never been my policy to back away from free speech. If ATOT doesn't allow that in a fair way, then do what you have to do and I'll roll on down the road, no regrets.

I think that was directed more towards you commenting on anything you want and not your opinions, unless they're racist, sexist, etc. Other then that, this is a private board.


Yes I see, but in the context of this thread I was basically saying I have a right to comment on this issue regardless if the other guy agrees with me. Right? I didn't see the point of the Moderator edit because I hadn't done anything outside of the agreement and don't have a history of it either.
 

wyvrn

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: toolboxolio
Atot is notorious for having a bunch of High n Mighty narcs about anything.

There are tons of people who report any posts that aren't g-rated.

I can see a few of them being so extreme as to take it to another level and pwn a member in real life.

And then if you criticize that action then they get on a moral high horse. Yep.
 

torpid

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I don't understand the implicit assumption being made that one's actions have to have some sort of self-serving motivation, as if only those who do things for their own benefit are morally acceptable. Why is the only possible explanation for turning in a cheater vengeance, high horse mentality, etc.? It's preposterous. I would have turned in a cheater too. It makes absolutely no sense to judge actions based on how they benefit the person doing the action. I would turn in the cheater because the cheater, whom I don't know, is committing an immoral act and harming other people whom I don't know. Since when it is so terrible to prevent wrongdoings that harm people I don't know? What's next? Are we going to be insulted for contributing to charity?
 

CPA

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Nov 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: TecHNooB
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Dude Loke and Minendo are losers. Get a life.

Minendo is far from a loser and LoKe later apologized for his actions. Move on.

Your opinion. And I will comment on any damn thing I please, thank you.

I'm not trying to tell you what you can and cannot comment on, just clarifying that not only did LoKe NOT actually contact the school, he also apologized for the who over-blown ordeal.

As far as Minendo, he is a highly respected member of the AT community and to call him a loser just shows your level on intelligence.

Doesn't matter how long he's been here or how popular he is. Everyone makes mistakes. Nice of you to defend him, you must be friends. But imo, that was lousy behavior.

Wait, they reported a cheater. How was that lousy? Did I miss something?


Well think about it. This guy is on a message board, they aren't in his class. They have no direct connection to him, and nothing to lose by his actions. But they felt the need to play around with him and then report him. I understand people don't like cheats, but I don't get the goody two shoes people who take it a step too far. Let people live their lives and learn their own lessons, we don't need morality police all over the place. It's bad enough we have our own government as Big Brother. We don't need homework police on the Internet, for god sakes.


Don't cheat, problem solved.
 

Steve

Lifer
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Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure
I'm sure this happened on AT. Looks like it's happening again, lol. Does anyone remember the members involved in that conflict?

Deja Vu

Thread's gone.
 

wyvrn

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: CPA
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: TecHNooB
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Dude Loke and Minendo are losers. Get a life.

Minendo is far from a loser and LoKe later apologized for his actions. Move on.

Your opinion. And I will comment on any damn thing I please, thank you.

I'm not trying to tell you what you can and cannot comment on, just clarifying that not only did LoKe NOT actually contact the school, he also apologized for the who over-blown ordeal.

As far as Minendo, he is a highly respected member of the AT community and to call him a loser just shows your level on intelligence.

Doesn't matter how long he's been here or how popular he is. Everyone makes mistakes. Nice of you to defend him, you must be friends. But imo, that was lousy behavior.

Wait, they reported a cheater. How was that lousy? Did I miss something?


Well think about it. This guy is on a message board, they aren't in his class. They have no direct connection to him, and nothing to lose by his actions. But they felt the need to play around with him and then report him. I understand people don't like cheats, but I don't get the goody two shoes people who take it a step too far. Let people live their lives and learn their own lessons, we don't need morality police all over the place. It's bad enough we have our own government as Big Brother. We don't need homework police on the Internet, for god sakes.


Don't cheat, problem solved.


Not really. We still have the issue of why people display vigilante behavior on the Internet. Not quite problem solved. Although I agree, if he doesn't cheat, he doesn't put himself in that position and that is a valid point.
 

wyvrn

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: torpid
I don't understand the implicit assumption being made that one's actions have to have some sort of self-serving motivation, as if only those who do things for their own benefit are morally acceptable. Why is the only possible explanation for turning in a cheater vengeance, high horse mentality, etc.? It's preposterous. I would have turned in a cheater too. It makes absolutely no sense to judge actions based on how they benefit the person doing the action. I would turn in the cheater because the cheater, whom I don't know, is committing an immoral act and harming other people whom I don't know. Since when it is so terrible to prevent wrongdoings that harm people I don't know? What's next? Are we going to be insulted for contributing to charity?

They don't have to be self motivated. But, if one is trying to advance an opinion, I think there are much better ways. What exactly did they accomplish with their behavior? Did they really prevent this person from cheating again? Did they cross the line in any way? I think this has more complexity to it than they just wanted to get the cheater.
 

Pacfanweb

Lifer
Jan 2, 2000
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Originally posted by: torpid
I don't understand the implicit assumption being made that one's actions have to have some sort of self-serving motivation, as if only those who do things for their own benefit are morally acceptable. Why is the only possible explanation for turning in a cheater vengeance, high horse mentality, etc.? It's preposterous. I would have turned in a cheater too. It makes absolutely no sense to judge actions based on how they benefit the person doing the action. I would turn in the cheater because the cheater, whom I don't know, is committing an immoral act and harming other people whom I don't know. Since when it is so terrible to prevent wrongdoings that harm people I don't know? What's next? Are we going to be insulted for contributing to charity?
I agree. I can understand the "Don't be a tattletale" being taught to kids, so they won't run to their teachers/parents for every little stupid thing, but as adults, you have to realize that if you do something wrong, there could very well be someone watching that disapproves and turns you in.
And it SHOULD be that way. You are not being a tattletale, moral police, or anything of the sort if you help someone get busted for cheating, stealing, etc.
You are only helping justice be served.