Does anyone here have an AMD E-450?

[Insert_Nickname]

But thats a tiny niche segment.

Exactly. Isn't it nice to have options...?
As I just pointed out in another thread, for 500DKK I'm not complaining about performance...

 

[VirtualLarry]

My C-60 netbook is basically about as fast as my Sandy Bridge B970 laptop, when they are both running on battery.

 

[happysmiles]

Hi everybody,

I bought a Compaq CQ57 with a E-450+Radeon 6320 and to be onest, this system is unstable and rubbish, i've tried everything to make it better but it doesn't work at all. The CPU get stuck when im multitasking and the screen is hanging when i play youtube-clips/video's. This is kinda annoying, the CPU is way TOO unstable, the Radeon 6320 is quite good...the graphics seems to be good enough if it doesn't lag. But the system overall is, not good at all. I have a tweaked Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and even that doesn't work. I replaced my HDD for a SSD and even that doesnt work, i bought 2GB extra RAM but even that seems not to bring every difference. AMD-Overdrive doesn't work on this CPU/GPU. What to do? Overclocking is impossible, more RAM isn't a option. Please help me out and give me some options.

I've expected more of this E2 system of AMD.

Gr. Joey

Change power settings from balanced to high performance.

I've used a C-50 with no lag problems in day to day browsing and such.

 

[krumme]

Interesting. I tried that POV-Ray program on two of my Aspire One netbooks also, and here were the results:

Povray v3.6.2

Atom N2600, 1.6Ghz, Win7 Starter
Parse Time: 0 hours 0 minutes 4 seconds (4 seconds)
Photon Time: 0 hours 1 minutes 48 seconds (108 seconds)
Render Time: 0 hours 44 minutes 43 seconds (2683 seconds)
Total Time: 0 hours 46 minutes 35 seconds (2795 seconds)
Render averaged 70.33 PPS

AMD C-50, 1.0Ghz, Win7 Starter
Parse Time: 0 hours 0 minutes 3 seconds (3 seconds)
Photon Time: 0 hours 1 minutes 18 seconds (78 seconds)
Render Time: 0 hours 29 minutes 18 seconds (1758 seconds)
Total Time: 0 hours 30 minutes 39 seconds (1839 seconds)
Render averaged 106.97 PPS

Povray v3.7

Atom N2600, 1.6Ghz, Win7 Starter
Photon Time: 0 hours 0 minutes 19 seconds (19.173 seconds)
using 7 thread(s) with 22.323 CPU-seconds total
Trace Time: 0 hours 14 minutes 17 seconds (857.487 seconds)
using 4 thread(s) with 3408.183 CPU-seconds total
Render averaged 222.74 PPS (57.18 PPS CPU time)

AMD C-50, 1.0Ghz, Win7 Starter
Photon Time: 0 hours 0 minutes 14 seconds (14.430 seconds)
using 5 thread(s) with 16.176 CPU-seconds total
Trace Time: 0 hours 16 minutes 17 seconds (977.373 seconds)
using 2 thread(s) with 1937.220 CPU-seconds total
Render averaged 197.17 PPS (100.36 PPS CPU time)

Just for comparison. Both OSs are set up pretty much the same.

Well then try that on a 1.65Ghz bobcat 350/450 and the results is 60% better.

The results just proves what Anand have said before. The e450 have 60% better single threaded performance than Atom, and about 400-1000% better gfx. That accounts for a difference. All in the same die-size.

I have both had Atom and an e450. And it a different experience. I wouldnt use it myself, as i am an speed addict and hate to mess with drivers and codecs. And i agree its not for htcp - it will be a mess.

But one of the kids preferred the small 11.6 notebook to her prior 2.5GHz penryn, discrete gfx, and never complains and dont give damn about the speed difference. Bobcat is good enough for 90% of the users doing the usual stuff, and the sales numbers proves that. Arm 15 will do exactly the same, and fullfill the same purpose.

The consumers dont want it speedier, but cheaper and without fan and better battery life

 

[CTho9305]

My C-60 netbook is basically about as fast as my Sandy Bridge B970 laptop, when they are both running on battery.

Are you being sarcastic? As much of a fan of Bobcat as I am, I would still expect a C-60 to get slaughtered in that match-up (ignoring the 18W vs 35W TDP and the effect on battery life).

 

[cytg111]

Some flash games, like BTD5, can bring a 4.5 GHz i5-3570k to its knees.

You should know that Steve turns in his grave each time someone mentions .. hrrmm... you know what ...

 

[VirtualLarry]

Are you being sarcastic? As much of a fan of Bobcat as I am, I would still expect a C-60 to get slaughtered in that match-up (ignoring the 18W vs 35W TDP and the effect on battery life).

No, I'm serious. On battery, my Asus X401A laptop throttles itself to 800Mhz. The C-60 Turbos to 1.33Ghz.

 

[Chiropteran]

A relevant real life anecdote that fits the discussion of this thread:

A few weeks ago, a shelf in my condo collapsed and several books fell on my fiancee's open laptop. The screen was destroyed, and we didn't feel it was worth paying to fix so I gave her my old Dell XPS laptop to replace it.

The original laptop was an HP dm1z, with a E-350 AMD CPU. The replacement Dell XPS has an i5-460m CPU and switchable nvidia graphics GTX 425m or something.

I figured it would nice a nice performance upgrade, although it is a little bigger and bulkier than the dm1z was. So I asked her after she had it for a few days "so, does the new laptop feel faster?" Her response amazed me at first "not really, but I really notice that it runs out of batteries a lot faster".

She isn't a gamer, just uses the laptop to browser the web and use office apps. I *know* I can feel the difference in speed, but for her as a casual computer user the speed difference was hardly noticeable, while the increased battery usage was very obvious. Just shows the perspective of a non-enthusiast.


Edit: also, to the thread's title, I have an E-450, in a thinkpad X130e.

 

[cytg111]

I've just seen a system with it stuttering like mad with a Flash game. Does anyone have the same problem and processor?

Switching off desktop composition made it perform significantly better.

The system in question has Win7-64, plenty of RAM and the latest AMD graphics drivers. Processor usage was just going nuts in any browser while playing the Flash game. I checked silly things like whether someone had set the processor to only go up to 50% of its potential, but it was going the full 1.65GHz.

I realise it's not meant as say a valid alternative to the Core i3 or the Pentium G620, but I would have thought anything except a netbook processor would handle a Flash game, unless someone goes and ports Quake 4 onto Flash

And yes .. I got an 450 too ... stutters on me too.. but really, blame it on flash .. its a pos.

 

[happysmiles]

A relevant real life anecdote that fits the discussion of this thread:

A few weeks ago, a shelf in my condo collapsed and several books fell on my fiancee's open laptop. The screen was destroyed, and we didn't feel it was worth paying to fix so I gave her my old Dell XPS laptop to replace it.

The original laptop was an HP dm1z, with a E-350 AMD CPU. The replacement Dell XPS has an i5-460m CPU and switchable nvidia graphics GTX 425m or something.

I figured it would nice a nice performance upgrade, although it is a little bigger and bulkier than the dm1z was. So I asked her after she had it for a few days "so, does the new laptop feel faster?" Her response amazed me at first "not really, but I really notice that it runs out of batteries a lot faster".

She isn't a gamer, just uses the laptop to browser the web and use office apps. I *know* I can feel the difference in speed, but for her as a casual computer user the speed difference was hardly noticeable, while the increased battery usage was very obvious. Just shows the perspective of a non-enthusiast.


Edit: also, to the thread's title, I have an E-450, in a thinkpad X130e.

I returned a i7 Nehalem for the same reason, it's also why I'm going for a high end APU on my next purchase

 

[ComputerWizKid]

My E450 looks like this

Oops you said AMD not Ford

 

[Vesku]

Not an E-450 but I was pretty surprised at how handy a C-50 netbook was. Better experience with it then the 1.6GHz dual core Atom I had tried out.