Does anyone here get pissed with people who pirate everything under the sun?

Originally posted by: Cougar

Originally posted by: jjones
Let me see...you're "trying" to get legit and yet later you say you have the money to afford to buy the software. What's the hold up? Why are you still "trying" when you clearly say you have the money to be legit? Surely the software you use is available to purchase but you haven't done that yet. Sounds more than a little bit hypocritical to me.

Trying, as in I can't afford to buy it all at once. I just ordered Office 2003 this morning for my main rig and next will be Windows XP (at least when I finally upgrade). My main system has Win2k and Office 2000 which are legit and they are being replaced with Office 2003 and when I upgrade the OS will be replaced by WinXP. My other 2 systems need to have legit copies of XP and the one will be taken care of within the next month. I'm getting there I just can't do it all at once. Once I get my refund I'm going to put that money towards some software.

Now, if it makes you feel better to call me a hypocrite then by all means have at it.

But you ARE a hypocrite, so why dont you stop posting?

 

[acemcmac]

If any developer wants my money, they have to earn it!

I refuse to condemn piracy of any kind of software that can be described as

1) a trash heap of code that requires monthly update packages OR
2) code that has known security voulnerabilites WITHELD until the developer FEELS like fixin them OR
3) early termination of product support while there is still an active installed base in the tens of millions
4) public alpha's that cost 300$ to join and only result in 3

you know who im talking about. h4x the planet :beer:

I pay for good software, and good software alone

 

[FoBoT]

here is a pirate

 

[Cougar]

Originally posted by: Phocas

But you ARE a hypocrite, so why dont you stop posting?

ok, so I'm a raging hypocrite, you caught me. I actively pursue and download new programs each and every day and then I condemn people who do the same thing. I still can't very well ignore someone if they've posted a message directed at me can I? That's just plain rude to ignore people.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: Staley8
If you don't want to drop the money to use the program, then don't use the program and just admit that you are pirating it. But don't try to justify not paying for it by making up some lame "well I only use it a couple of times, it's kind of like a trial period" or "it's too expensive and I don't have the money, plus I only use it for fun". You aren't fooling people, it's still pirating.

I only use my dirtbike once or twice a year maybe I should steal that too b/c it's just a hobby and I rarely use it after all. Sorry for going off I just can't stand when people try to justify it somehow.

REALLY poor analogy. I used to be a programmer myself, I know that it takes a lot of time to write code. But writing tons of code doesn't justify a selling price of 600 dollars for a graphics program. There is a huge markup in the mass software market, like windows, photoshop, office, etc. I can understand software that is custom or tailored to ones needs costing a lot, i.e. specialty software for a specific industry, for a niche to be expensive software, because, in that case, obviously the programmer needs to cover his costs [much smaller market to sell, but much more targetted] and make a decent profit, but for me to pay 600 or whatever dollars for Photoshop, when I only use 20% of the features for fun is immoral in my book. What is the real difference between student pricing and non student pricing? What is the real difference between versions of a particular program? they usually just add more lines of code, and then jack up the rate. If I was using office to create flyers for my part time job in college, and I only paid 5 bucks for it, and it was a tool that netted me greater profit, and now, out of college, I need to use it to type letters, make shopping lists, etc. and pay a couple hundred for the same damn software? No thanks.

 

[atom]

Originally posted by: SherEPunjab

Originally posted by: Staley8
If you don't want to drop the money to use the program, then don't use the program and just admit that you are pirating it. But don't try to justify not paying for it by making up some lame "well I only use it a couple of times, it's kind of like a trial period" or "it's too expensive and I don't have the money, plus I only use it for fun". You aren't fooling people, it's still pirating.

I only use my dirtbike once or twice a year maybe I should steal that too b/c it's just a hobby and I rarely use it after all. Sorry for going off I just can't stand when people try to justify it somehow.

REALLY poor analogy. I used to be a programmer myself, I know that it takes a lot of time to write code. But writing tons of code doesn't justify a selling price of 600 dollars for a graphics program. There is a huge markup in the mass software market, like windows, photoshop, office, etc. I can understand software that is custom or tailored to ones needs costing a lot, i.e. specialty software for a specific industry, for a niche to be expensive software, because, in that case, obviously the programmer needs to cover his costs [much smaller market to sell, but much more targetted] and make a decent profit, but for me to pay 600 or whatever dollars for Photoshop, when I only use 20% of the features for fun is immoral in my book. What is the real difference between student pricing and non student pricing? What is the real difference between versions of a particular program? they usually just add more lines of code, and then jack up the rate. If I was using office to create flyers for my part time job in college, and I only paid 5 bucks for it, and it was a tool that netted me greater profit, and now, out of college, I need to use it to type letters, make shopping lists, etc. and pay a couple hundred for the same damn software? No thanks.

And this is different than any other product oriented industry how exactly?

 

[Geekbabe]

umhhh no,I just hope they've also got a fast burner

 

[igowerf]

Link

 

[MAME]

not everyone can afford $150+ software a pop

 

[Cerb]

Hopefuly he'll get what's coming to him.
Up t high school, I really didn't care, and don't care for others...you don't have any money for tha stuff at the time.
But now, I'm making it a point to buy stuff, and will soon even have my own OS (currently using one of my dad's old licenses, as he'd has to move up to XP for work), assuming summer classes don't cost an arm and a leg.
And if any executive from the RIAA saw me BUYING an album I DLed from the 'net, he'd probably have a heart atack. I still don't like that so few CDs proudly display th DCDA logo, and sadistically hope I find one, one of these days, that won't rip properly , just to be one more guy who can genuiely bitch about it.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: atom

Originally posted by: SherEPunjab

Originally posted by: Staley8
If you don't want to drop the money to use the program, then don't use the program and just admit that you are pirating it. But don't try to justify not paying for it by making up some lame "well I only use it a couple of times, it's kind of like a trial period" or "it's too expensive and I don't have the money, plus I only use it for fun". You aren't fooling people, it's still pirating.

I only use my dirtbike once or twice a year maybe I should steal that too b/c it's just a hobby and I rarely use it after all. Sorry for going off I just can't stand when people try to justify it somehow.

REALLY poor analogy. I used to be a programmer myself, I know that it takes a lot of time to write code. But writing tons of code doesn't justify a selling price of 600 dollars for a graphics program. There is a huge markup in the mass software market, like windows, photoshop, office, etc. I can understand software that is custom or tailored to ones needs costing a lot, i.e. specialty software for a specific industry, for a niche to be expensive software, because, in that case, obviously the programmer needs to cover his costs [much smaller market to sell, but much more targetted] and make a decent profit, but for me to pay 600 or whatever dollars for Photoshop, when I only use 20% of the features for fun is immoral in my book. What is the real difference between student pricing and non student pricing? What is the real difference between versions of a particular program? they usually just add more lines of code, and then jack up the rate. If I was using office to create flyers for my part time job in college, and I only paid 5 bucks for it, and it was a tool that netted me greater profit, and now, out of college, I need to use it to type letters, make shopping lists, etc. and pay a couple hundred for the same damn software? No thanks.

And this is different than any other product oriented industry how exactly?

a) the returns are higher. Reproducing a car, for example, will still cost several thousands of dollars, at the very minimum.
b) with regards to student pricing, what other industry does this scheme?

 

[rh71]

don't care unless they try to make money off it...

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: acemcmac
I pay for good software, and good software alone

Name some.

 

[purbeast0]

I'm not going to lie ... I do this on a regular basis. However, of ALL the things I have, about 1% or less I would buy

At this point, I do it more as a hobby to collect stuff. I by no means sell anything, I just like to collect it and add it to my lists and throw it in my binder. I have over 150 xbox games that are on DVDr, but then again, i have about 10 originals ... which are the ones I play. The recent one to the collection I purchased is the new bond game .. it owns

I am not saying piracy is right, but to me, it's more of a hobby and for the most part, the games/software sit in a binder. If I actually play the games, it's not for more than 5 minutes to be like "yea the graphics are cool" or "this game sucks' or " i'm gonna go buy this game! (ie james bond). I'm not sayin it's right either, it's just fun to collect stuff.