Does anyone have their Audigy 1/2/4 hooked up to a Receiver? (With poll)

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PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Astrallite
In 2-channel mode (music) its ok for a low crossover, but when you are running say full-surround (6.1 DVD Audio) a higher crossover is suggested, not for acoustics, but for the livelihood of your receiver/amp.

Livelihood?? :confused:

A receiver / amp has to make ends meet somehow. Gotta feed the kids.


I guess...but that's only when its 7 kids are small....when they get large they might need 40-20 KHz of freedom or so, can't hold them back with a crossover ;)
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Astrallite
In 2-channel mode (music) its ok for a low crossover, but when you are running say full-surround (6.1 DVD Audio) a higher crossover is suggested, not for acoustics, but for the livelihood of your receiver/amp.

Livelihood?? :confused:

A receiver / amp has to make ends meet somehow. Gotta feed the kids.


I guess...but that's only when its 7 kids are small....when they get large they might need 40-20 KHz of freedom or so, can't hold them back with a crossover ;)

We'll deal with that when the time comes.
 

thatsright

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I have a ZS hooked up BOTH ways, analog and digital. But I will tell anyone, ughh what a bitch it was to get the analog part setup. And in the end I hardly used it for gaming. But yes, I could hear great EAX4 in games like UT2004 with my Denon 3300 receiver.

Be forewarned however, if you have a 5.1 setup and a subwoofer, it will pretty much disappear with ZS output. Its almost as if the ZS drops the .1 channel from your home theater setup. The bass output is non-existent. I tried jacking up the subwoofer on the receiver and the subwoofer, and still no bass when using the ZS. Though it works great on my Klipsch Pro Media 2.1 speakers??

So yes, if you are a gamer, it?s definitely worth it. In the end I wish I didn't spend the $30 or so it cost me
 

Aquila76

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Aquila76
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Aquila76
Well, my setup (Audigy1 analog out to Yamaha receiver analog in) has the same sub issue. I have to crank the sub's level up to max and even then it's not as powerful as it normally is. I can't adjust the individual speaker levels with my driver, so I can't confirm it's the same issue as PurdueRy's, but it's quite probable.


What card you you have?

The Yamaha can't adjust individual speakers volume?

It's a first-gen Audigy MP3 (Audigy1). It's also a VERY old receiver, an HTR-5150. I got it back in 98 or 99. It doesn't have level adjustments for the individual speakers, just a few DSP's (rock, jazz, etc.) and a 'night-time' mode that apparently simply lowers the high and low-end sounds. Oddly enough, it can adjust the time delay for front, rear, center, and sub and defeat the sub level for DD or DTS streams; it just can't adjust the volume level for the main speakers.

EDIT: When I was referring to adjusting the sub level earlier, I meant the control in the audio driver panel, not the physical sub's gain knob.

Can you lower the speaker levels in the audigy controls so that the sub is a good volume relative to them?

The Audigy1 control panel only allows individual control for the center and sub levels. Everything else is controlled by the Master Volume level which also controls the sub.

EDIT: Huh. Wonder if it's the receiver now and not the card. I hooked up my Pioneer DVD DV-563A player in 5.1 analog mode to the receiver and the sub is still barely get signal. All my bass are belong to Yamaha?
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: thatsright
I have a ZS hooked up BOTH ways, analog and digital. But I will tell anyone, ughh what a bitch it was to get the analog part setup. And in the end I hardly used it for gaming. But yes, I could hear great EAX4 in games like UT2004 with my Denon 3300 receiver.

Be forewarned however, if you have a 5.1 setup and a subwoofer, it will pretty much disappear with ZS output. Its almost as if the ZS drops the .1 channel from your home theater setup. The bass output is non-existent. I tried jacking up the subwoofer on the receiver and the subwoofer, and still no bass when using the ZS. Though it works great on my Klipsch Pro Media 2.1 speakers??

So yes, if you are a gamer, it?s definitely worth it. In the end I wish I didn't spend the $30 or so it cost me

Have you tried lowering the speaker levels like some people have done?
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: Aquila76
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Aquila76
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Aquila76
Well, my setup (Audigy1 analog out to Yamaha receiver analog in) has the same sub issue. I have to crank the sub's level up to max and even then it's not as powerful as it normally is. I can't adjust the individual speaker levels with my driver, so I can't confirm it's the same issue as PurdueRy's, but it's quite probable.


What card you you have?

The Yamaha can't adjust individual speakers volume?

It's a first-gen Audigy MP3 (Audigy1). It's also a VERY old receiver, an HTR-5150. I got it back in 98 or 99. It doesn't have level adjustments for the individual speakers, just a few DSP's (rock, jazz, etc.) and a 'night-time' mode that apparently simply lowers the high and low-end sounds. Oddly enough, it can adjust the time delay for front, rear, center, and sub and defeat the sub level for DD or DTS streams; it just can't adjust the volume level for the main speakers.

EDIT: When I was referring to adjusting the sub level earlier, I meant the control in the audio driver panel, not the physical sub's gain knob.

Can you lower the speaker levels in the audigy controls so that the sub is a good volume relative to them?

The Audigy1 control panel only allows individual control for the center and sub levels. Everything else is controlled by the Master Volume level which also controls the sub.

EDIT: Huh. Wonder if it's the receiver now and not the card. I hooked up my Pioneer DVD DV-563A player in 5.1 analog mode to the receiver and the sub is still barely get signal. All my bass are belong to Yamaha?

Maybe there's a setting you can use to boost the sub signal in the 5.1 input?
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: thatsright
I have a ZS hooked up BOTH ways, analog and digital. But I will tell anyone, ughh what a bitch it was to get the analog part setup. And in the end I hardly used it for gaming. But yes, I could hear great EAX4 in games like UT2004 with my Denon 3300 receiver.

Be forewarned however, if you have a 5.1 setup and a subwoofer, it will pretty much disappear with ZS output. Its almost as if the ZS drops the .1 channel from your home theater setup. The bass output is non-existent. I tried jacking up the subwoofer on the receiver and the subwoofer, and still no bass when using the ZS. Though it works great on my Klipsch Pro Media 2.1 speakers??

So yes, if you are a gamer, it?s definitely worth it. In the end I wish I didn't spend the $30 or so it cost me

make sure you click the bass redirection tab and select the frequency. It worked fine with your promedias because it sent the full signal to the front two speakers, or what it thought were the front two speakers....

...in the case of the promedias though, they also have a built in crossover, so when they recieved the full signal, the crossover sent the bass to the sub.

When you are using the analog 5.1/6.1/7.1 input on your pc, you are sending the audio directly to each channel, so it isn't it up for you, sort of like if you cad a 5.1 set where the sub has it's own cable or channel nefore it even hits the crossover. You need a crossover BEFORE the reciever, which is when setting the bass redirection in the creative control panel come isn...


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Aquila76

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: MS Dawn
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

mmmm, Santoprene apparently

Yes rats love to chew lubbers. :p

Our rats have gotten used to the sound. They're always trying to turn it up when I'm not looking.

LOL, I have the same KB (minus the rat). And it's usually the cat stealing my wireless mouse and running off with it.
 

Aquila76

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Aquila76
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Aquila76
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Aquila76
Well, my setup (Audigy1 analog out to Yamaha receiver analog in) has the same sub issue. I have to crank the sub's level up to max and even then it's not as powerful as it normally is. I can't adjust the individual speaker levels with my driver, so I can't confirm it's the same issue as PurdueRy's, but it's quite probable.


What card you you have?

The Yamaha can't adjust individual speakers volume?

It's a first-gen Audigy MP3 (Audigy1). It's also a VERY old receiver, an HTR-5150. I got it back in 98 or 99. It doesn't have level adjustments for the individual speakers, just a few DSP's (rock, jazz, etc.) and a 'night-time' mode that apparently simply lowers the high and low-end sounds. Oddly enough, it can adjust the time delay for front, rear, center, and sub and defeat the sub level for DD or DTS streams; it just can't adjust the volume level for the main speakers.

EDIT: When I was referring to adjusting the sub level earlier, I meant the control in the audio driver panel, not the physical sub's gain knob.

Can you lower the speaker levels in the audigy controls so that the sub is a good volume relative to them?

The Audigy1 control panel only allows individual control for the center and sub levels. Everything else is controlled by the Master Volume level which also controls the sub.

EDIT: Huh. Wonder if it's the receiver now and not the card. I hooked up my Pioneer DVD DV-563A player in 5.1 analog mode to the receiver and the sub is still barely get signal. All my bass are belong to Yamaha?

Maybe there's a setting you can use to boost the sub signal in the 5.1 input?

Unfortunately you can only boost/defeat for the DD or DTS streams with this model. The analog channels are 'fixed' at whatever level they get, apparently. Maybe I should upgrade this thing to some newer tech/power.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: Aquila76
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Aquila76
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Aquila76
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: Aquila76
Well, my setup (Audigy1 analog out to Yamaha receiver analog in) has the same sub issue. I have to crank the sub's level up to max and even then it's not as powerful as it normally is. I can't adjust the individual speaker levels with my driver, so I can't confirm it's the same issue as PurdueRy's, but it's quite probable.


What card you you have?

The Yamaha can't adjust individual speakers volume?

It's a first-gen Audigy MP3 (Audigy1). It's also a VERY old receiver, an HTR-5150. I got it back in 98 or 99. It doesn't have level adjustments for the individual speakers, just a few DSP's (rock, jazz, etc.) and a 'night-time' mode that apparently simply lowers the high and low-end sounds. Oddly enough, it can adjust the time delay for front, rear, center, and sub and defeat the sub level for DD or DTS streams; it just can't adjust the volume level for the main speakers.

EDIT: When I was referring to adjusting the sub level earlier, I meant the control in the audio driver panel, not the physical sub's gain knob.

Can you lower the speaker levels in the audigy controls so that the sub is a good volume relative to them?

The Audigy1 control panel only allows individual control for the center and sub levels. Everything else is controlled by the Master Volume level which also controls the sub.

EDIT: Huh. Wonder if it's the receiver now and not the card. I hooked up my Pioneer DVD DV-563A player in 5.1 analog mode to the receiver and the sub is still barely get signal. All my bass are belong to Yamaha?

Maybe there's a setting you can use to boost the sub signal in the 5.1 input?

Unfortunately you can only boost/defeat for the DD or DTS streams with this model. The analog channels are 'fixed' at whatever level they get, apparently. Maybe I should upgrade this thing to some newer tech/power.

I hope this thread isn't costing you any money. :p
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: Patt
I don't yet have this set up ... but I'm going to soon :)

good luck

EDIT: Your rig link doesn't work, check out the sticky in Forum Issues.
 

Aquila76

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Aquila76
Unfortunately you can only boost/defeat for the DD or DTS streams with this model. The analog channels are 'fixed' at whatever level they get, apparently. Maybe I should upgrade this thing to some newer tech/power.

I hope this thread isn't costing you any money. :p

It'll probably end up cost me both money and brownie points with the wife. After 6 years, tho, I'm pretty used to sleeping on the couch.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: Aquila76
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Aquila76
Unfortunately you can only boost/defeat for the DD or DTS streams with this model. The analog channels are 'fixed' at whatever level they get, apparently. Maybe I should upgrade this thing to some newer tech/power.

I hope this thread isn't costing you any money. :p

It'll probably end up cost me both money and brownie points with the wife. After 6 years, tho, I'm pretty used to sleeping on the couch.

:Q well at least you have your priorities right.