I screwed up and I cant pick up the 2nd anti-brain control med in Suchong's lab. Does anyone have the save game right after you pick up lot 192 or whatever it's called?
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Does anyone have any bioshock savegames?
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If it was the tault trainer, if you go to their site and search, they have a savegame just before the 2nd pickup, that you can load up and do the pickup, before going back to trainer mode.
tigersty1e
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Jax: I don't understand why it's a bad thing, it's a single player game and I've never been good with video games. I'm here for the experience, not so I can run back and forth from the vita chambers.
As for the trainer, yes, I can't pick up the required item to progress the game forward. I'll try the website.
As for the trainer, yes, I can't pick up the required item to progress the game forward. I'll try the website.
Jax Omen
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it's a bad thing because you DON'T GET the same experience cheating as you do playing the game. You're missing out on a good chunk of a great game because you're cheating. Easy mode exists for you to play without cheating and without getting pummeled.
How dare you use your free time and money you earned and spent to purchase a video game to play that game the way you prefer!
*shakes fist*
Well, I get the experience I prefer.
When I say I'm bad at videogames, I mean I'm BAD. I died/failed in COD4 probably 10 times on easy, in GRAW2, I still haven't gotten around to getting past the 4th mission. I failed a World in conflict mission 4 times on easy. I never beat Half Life 2. I'm just not good with things involving a mouse and I don't have the time to do better.
I don't play all that much and I get bored easily if i have to do backtrack someplace or repeat actions. I don't even touch RPGs or MMORPGs for that reason. I have something like that with the daily grind called life, except when I do things IRL, the rewards are tangible and real.
I spend my videogame time to relax. I don't take it seriously, it's more of an interactive storyline than some sort of challenge. If I want frustration, I'll go to class or work. If I want a challenge, I'll go play some football or do my captain duties for my house's intramural teams. Life is enough work as it is. Games are when at the end of he day, I just want to unwind and shoot something.
As for the save file, thanks for the tip Cuular, i ended up getting it off a website. Ends up it was very close to the end of the game.
I downloaded a savegame for Need for Speed Most Wanted to move up the Black List. Tried to do it honestly but I started to get frustrated when every once in a while, I'd have to restart a race 15 times in a row. Jumped ahead a few spots on the list and finished the damn game.
And yeah, needed about two dozen attempts to finish the final mission. :|
And yeah, needed about two dozen attempts to finish the final mission. :|
jonks
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Nothing wrong with trainers, but you will definitely get bored of the game much more quickly using them. Most of the fun in games comes from the challenge. Walking thru a shooter on godmode has to be one of the most worthless ways to spend time.
That said, if you are stuck at a point in a game and cannot beat a certain boss or get through a level after many many repeated attempts, better to use a cheat to at least get past that part than to stop playing, IMO. Also if you get really close to the end and either lose interest or get stuck but want to see the ending, I find it ok.
But in general, trainers leech the fun out of games.
That said, if you are stuck at a point in a game and cannot beat a certain boss or get through a level after many many repeated attempts, better to use a cheat to at least get past that part than to stop playing, IMO. Also if you get really close to the end and either lose interest or get stuck but want to see the ending, I find it ok.
But in general, trainers leech the fun out of games.
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I really don't think that was necessary, it's not as if he is trying to cheat in MP games. I see no problem with using a trainer or cheat codes on a single player game. Heck I played through Hitman 2 about five times trying to get Silent Assassin, but could never achieve it, so I ended up using cheats to accomplish it. I have no regrets.
Everyone's playing style and objectives are not the same. I have friends that use cheats right away in every single player game they can, because they just like to go through every section of every level without fear of dying or having to backtrack. Some people like the challenge of trying to do everything on their own, some people use FAQs/help only when they are really stuck, and some people use cheat codes, it all depends on what you want from the game.
KT
Red Storm
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Agreed. For me, 100% of the reason why I play single player games is for the story. If any gameplay aspect gets in the way of enjoying that, I cheat my past it with no regrets. Multiplayer games are the exact opposite; I play them for gameplay and the challenge in facing a human opponent. It is possible to enjoy both.
Jax Omen
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Keith, the difference is that you played through the game before you cheated. Am I wrong?
By cheating before he even plays through the game once, he is robbing himself of the experience. Frantic enemy encounters, boss fights, etc: all of them lose all of their impact if you cheat through them the first time you come to them.
I honestly don't care if someone is bad enough at a game that they can only play on easy. Doesn't bother me at all. And if there is some special ending for beating it on hard only, by all means, AFTER you've played through on easy, cheat through hard if you want to see that ending. I don't care, you've gotten the experience at that point. Cheating through the first playthrough ruins that.
Especially Bioshock, where there's no penalty for dying. The game basically guarantees that ANYONE will eventually progress through the game, regardless of skill, on any difficulty. Sure, I died about 20 times against my first Big Daddy on hard. But each time I did damage to him first. I made progress. And I enjoyed the feeling of VICTORY after finally killing that ****ing Big Daddy after all those deaths. He will never enjoy that, because he's cheating through the game. And I feel sorry for him for it.
By cheating before he even plays through the game once, he is robbing himself of the experience. Frantic enemy encounters, boss fights, etc: all of them lose all of their impact if you cheat through them the first time you come to them.
I honestly don't care if someone is bad enough at a game that they can only play on easy. Doesn't bother me at all. And if there is some special ending for beating it on hard only, by all means, AFTER you've played through on easy, cheat through hard if you want to see that ending. I don't care, you've gotten the experience at that point. Cheating through the first playthrough ruins that.
Especially Bioshock, where there's no penalty for dying. The game basically guarantees that ANYONE will eventually progress through the game, regardless of skill, on any difficulty. Sure, I died about 20 times against my first Big Daddy on hard. But each time I did damage to him first. I made progress. And I enjoyed the feeling of VICTORY after finally killing that ****ing Big Daddy after all those deaths. He will never enjoy that, because he's cheating through the game. And I feel sorry for him for it.
Red Storm
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He's enjoying the story, and getting a break from real life. Maybe you enjoy replaying a scenario twenty times to get through. But for me and lot of other people, I don't care for that feeling of accomplishment against artificial intelligence, only against actual human opponents. Single player games are all about choice, and the only "loser" I see here is you, for getting upset over how someone else enjoys playing single player games.
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I think we all just need to agree that everyone plays their games differently and achieve staisfaction in different ways. I've actually used cheats to get through games I found boring in hopes it would get better (the latest one was FEAR and it never did IMO) and I've also used them after I've beaten the game to just mess around, so I've, um, gone both ways before. 
To each his own I guess.
:beer:
KT
To each his own I guess.:beer:
KT
I love to cheat and just go through the storyline dominating everything that comes my way.
I'm not much of a PC player, so when I play games like Doom3 or Quake4, it's God Mode all the way.
And Jax, I feel sorry for people like you. Live your life and let other people live theirs the way they want to.
Are you the type to say that people who eat fod you don't like are gross, or make fun of people for liking movies you don't like?
Or are you Pontifex's other screen name?
I'm not much of a PC player, so when I play games like Doom3 or Quake4, it's God Mode all the way.
And Jax, I feel sorry for people like you. Live your life and let other people live theirs the way they want to.
Are you the type to say that people who eat fod you don't like are gross, or make fun of people for liking movies you don't like?
Or are you Pontifex's other screen name?
Jax Omen
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There's a difference between liking something I don't and experiencing the same thing differently. All I am saying is that by cheating, he is getting a different (and from my experience, incredibly less satisfying) experience of the same product.
Seems like a waste of money to me, unless he pirated the game as well, in which case shame on him.
I'm going to take a page from slashdot and make a car analogy: I liken buying a game then cheating at it to paying for a Dodge Viper and driving a Kia Spectra off the lot. Sure, they're both cars. They're both new. They're both nice. But the difference between them is night and day.
Seems like a waste of money to me, unless he pirated the game as well, in which case shame on him.
I'm going to take a page from slashdot and make a car analogy: I liken buying a game then cheating at it to paying for a Dodge Viper and driving a Kia Spectra off the lot. Sure, they're both cars. They're both new. They're both nice. But the difference between them is night and day.
I almost never cheat on the first playthrough of a game, but do it regularly for screwing around after I've already beaten the game. There are some games with a wide array of cool cheats and experimenting with them can be a whole game in itself.
If someone wants to cheat while playing normally though, there is certainly nothing wrong with that (as long as it's singleplayer). I wouldn't find it nearly as much fun that way, but that's me, and others might enjoy the game more by removing any difficulty. It's all about maximizing the fun factor from the game.
:laugh:
If someone wants to cheat while playing normally though, there is certainly nothing wrong with that (as long as it's singleplayer). I wouldn't find it nearly as much fun that way, but that's me, and others might enjoy the game more by removing any difficulty. It's all about maximizing the fun factor from the game.
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