Does anyone have any bioshock savegames?

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: Jax Omen
There's a difference between liking something I don't and experiencing the same thing differently. All I am saying is that by cheating, he is getting a different (and from my experience, incredibly less satisfying) experience of the same product.

Seems like a waste of money to me, unless he pirated the game as well, in which case shame on him.



I'm going to take a page from slashdot and make a car analogy: I liken buying a game then cheating at it to paying for a Dodge Viper and driving a Kia Spectra off the lot. Sure, they're both cars. They're both new. They're both nice. But the difference between them is night and day.

Well, that's the beauty of this thing called free will and individual freedom. Your experience doesn't apply to everyone and I for one don't enjoy elitist, masochistic gaming just so I can brag and think I'm better than anyone else.

Thanks for making the connection that because I used a trainer, I pirate games, want to just guess how many people I murdered today also and blame the crisis Darfur and Tibet on me too? :disgust:

That's a horrible car analogy, your example is suffering, in contrast, I get to relax and take it easy so it's like paying for a Mercedes S Class or Maybach 62 and having a chauffeur drive me around all day while I sit back and drink my wine.

Get into the toughest major at one of the nations most challenging universities, get a full time job to pay your out of state tuition by yourself without parental help, be proficient at some sport, be involved in a extracurricular activity, take a leadership position in a fraternal brotherhood and get engaged and then come back to me and tell me you'd like to add the challenge and stress of playing videogames and defeating imaginary lines of code.

This whole real life thing is hard and stressful enough as it is. Why would I want to suffer through this imaginary break from reality just so I can die over and over?

 

[squirtle24]

Obviously, people are different and will enjoy games in different ways.

Still, I hope you do actually play the game on easy mode for a little before resorting to a trainer. In theory, you should rapidly improve by just playing and learning. If you just turn on god mode at the start of any game, you'll never learn, so you'll be stuck with using a cheat/trainer for every game you ever play. This might not be such a bad thing in itself, but then you'll run into these types of problems more often.

I can understand it for a guy in his 50s or 60s, but it just seems strange to me that a normal young male can't beat a game on easy mode without cheating, especially considering you're enough of a nerd to be here on the AT forums. Or maybe Bioshock is really that hard? I've only played the demo so far.

 

[CP5670]

Bioshock is actually exceptionally easy for an FPS, mainly due to the respawning. You can defeat anything in the game without much effort by just respawning over and over again.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: CP5670
Bioshock is actually exceptionally easy for an FPS, mainly due to the respawning. You can defeat anything in the game without much effort by just respawning over and over again.

While that is true, respawning over and over to replay the same part of the game over and over, does not equal fun, or even a challenge, for many people, it just equates to boredom and frustration.

KT

 

[CP5670]

I know, I'm just saying that the game is far from difficult.

The respawns aren't really needed actually, as the game's difficulty is otherwise pretty average for an FPS, but they do make it a lot easier. The enemies retain their damage when you respawn, as opposed to having their health reset (like when you reload a saved game).

 

[Jax Omen]

Originally posted by: squirtle24
Obviously, people are different and will enjoy games in different ways.

Still, I hope you do actually play the game on easy mode for a little before resorting to a trainer. In theory, you should rapidly improve by just playing and learning. If you just turn on god mode at the start of any game, you'll never learn, so you'll be stuck with using a cheat/trainer for every game you ever play. This might not be such a bad thing in itself, but then you'll run into these types of problems more often.

I can understand it for a guy in his 50s or 60s, but it just seems strange to me that a normal young male can't beat a game on easy mode without cheating, especially considering you're enough of a nerd to be here on the AT forums. Or maybe Bioshock is really that hard? I've only played the demo so far.

This hits exactly what I'm saying so incredibly well.

And the connection with piracy was NOT to call the OP a pirate in any way, shape, or form. Merely stating that buying a game then cheating seems like it's wasting your money. If you pirated the game then cheated, at least you're not throwing away money for a partial game experience.

I feel sorry for anyone who finds a game with infinite respawning with no penalties, on easy mode, "stressful". Especially someone who's tech-oriented enough to come to the AT forums.

Just answer me this: do you give your games a genuine, best-effort try to play without cheating before you download a trainer? If so, I'll stop complaining. If you just get a trainer from the get-go... everything I've said before sums up my feelings pretty well.