Does anyone else think online poker is rigged?

[RichUK]

nm

 

[neovan]

There are 4 spades on the board. A set will not win with 7 people left in the table.

You are obviously very bad at poker and I would like to invite you to my home game.

 

[TravisT]

There has never been a gambling site created that was meant for you to win more than you lost.

 

[randay]

I love people who suck at poker. They have the funniest stories.

 

[Firsttime]

Wow, that is the weirdest poker story I have ever heard.

 

[crownjules]

Originally posted by: masterxfob
a set of 9's against a straight on the board, with an ace taking it? you're an idiot for even staying in the hand when you hit the set.

No he's not. He has 10 outs to a full house or better. Plus it got checked around so it was a free card. But I am NOT betting that river with straights and flushes all over the place and just a set to my name.

Online poker is not rigged. That would be extremely bad for business. What do they have to gain by rigging it? They steal your measly amount of money. Do you know how much those sites bring in with rake? Lots more then they get by supposedly stealing money because it's rigged. And the second they are found out, they lose all of that. The risk to reward for those companies is simply not worth it.

 

[jupiter57]

Originally posted by: chambersc
My belief is that all online poker is rigged. I've seen no proof otherwise.

Nahhhhhh!
Surely these sites don't exist to MAKE MONEY?

 

[AMDZen]

So there was a strait AND a flush on the board and you thought your trip nines were good?

You need to learn to play poker, seriously. I would have folded with that last spade on the river - i mean all someone needed was a SINGLE SPADE.

Learn how to play and then you can cry like a douche bag.

All that being said - I do agree that online poker is rigged

 

[z0mb13]

my thoughts about online poker:

you see much more hands compared to actual poker, because the shuffling and dealing is much faster, and a hand is done much quicker as well.

Since you see more hands, you see more crazy things happening at shorter period of time, thus you will think OMG NO WAI THAT IS SOOO RIGGED but in fact it is totally random

However sometimes I do feel that online poker is rigged. Maybe it is random hands instead of random cards?

 

[FoBoT]

with those cards on the table, i don't see what you are surprised aboot

 

[Pastore]

You made a set with 6 callers and are pissed you lost? I wish more people like you played at my tables.

 

[Vic]

Given that the board was a 4-flushed straight, the OP was an idiot to bet big on the river with a set of 9's. There was NO HOPE of winning, even the board had him beat. That is all.

edit:

<hee haw>
What I want to know is, what I did wrong?
</hee haw>

You bet on the river against 6 other players in the hand, not as a bluff, when even the board had you beat.

 

[Kev]

Originally posted by: Zolty

Originally posted by: scootermaster
Okay, so I'm not going to tell you what I had until the end. Just know that I was on the big blind, and SIX people limped in (including the small blind). I was mid stacked, and the blinds were high (no limit tourney), so without a monster, I don't think I can push here, since with so many callers, at least one or two people are going to look me up.

So I check.

Flop comes:

Ts
Kd
Qs

It's checked around to someone on the cuttoff, who makes a minimum bet. Everyone calls (including me) since we were getting odds to.

Turn comes
9s

Checked all around

River comes
Js

I bet big. Get SIX callers. Can't freakin believe I lost. What I want to know is, what I did wrong?

I had pocket 9s. So I made trip 9s. Another guy had J9, and totally made a straight. A third guy had pocket kings and made quads. The fourth guy had the 8s6h and made a straight flush! And then some dude turns over the Ace of spades and wins with a freakin ROYAL FLUSH

I couldn't believe it.

I'm never playing at partystarspacificultimatetilt EVER AGAIN!

how does one person make a royal and one person make a straight flush with a king of diamonds out there. Also how does a guy make Quads with 2 cards in his hand and 1 king on the table.


EDIT

J9 with those cards on the table, is playing the board.


Also please check the logs because those cards dont work for those hands....


Edit 2

Haven't played poker in a while, I see the straight flush now, still dont see a royal unless the guy had Ks and As. But that would be impossible if someone had quad kings.

your sarcasm detector seems to be malfunctioning

 

[Kev]

I can't believe you people believe this was an actual hand...

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: jupiter57

Originally posted by: chambersc
My belief is that all online poker is rigged. I've seen no proof otherwise.

Nahhhhhh!
Surely these sites don't exist to MAKE MONEY?

They make money regardless of who wins or loses.

 

[EPCrew]

you should've folded after the first bet with 5 other callers. you were WAY behind.

 

[chuckywang]

It's not rigged, you can't even read hands.

 

[OutHouse]

yea its all rigged. Since they operate offshore i dont believe there is a gaming commission to go check on them and their gaming stats to keep the games legit.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Citrix
yea its all rigged. Since they operate offshore i dont believe there is a gaming commission to go check on them and their gaming stats to keep the games legit.

Not at all. Party Poker is a publicly traded company on the London Stock Exchange and in the FTSE 100.

The biggest issue with online gaming sites is that the brick&mortar casinos feel threatened by them (especially the Indian casinos it seems like), so they bribe legislators to have online gaming made illegal. For example, as of this July, it is now a felony to engage in or even advertise online gambling in WA state, a piece of legislation that the Puyallup tribe pushed through.

 

[mpitts]

If online poker is rigged, then who is it rigged for?

I guess my first question would be why are you betting big on a board where:


a) you are counterfeited by a straight on the board
b) any Ace has the nut straight
c) there's three to a royal flush on the board

You should have hoped for the board to pair on the river and mucked after the straight and flush cards showed up.

I have seen just about every poker situation in casinos and online. The same crazy stuff happens. It's cards. It's unpredictable.

People who think online poker is rigged obviously have no idea how much money online poker sites make and stand to lose if it were ever found that they were rigged.

 

[scootermaster]

But I know that the expected value of a set is really high with a lot of callers because of the postflop equity. So I made a value check to try and induce a free card because I know I was a small favorite and didn't want to let the other people draw out against a made hand.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: scootermaster
But I know that the expected value of a set is really high with a lot of callers because of the postflop equity. So I made a value check to try and induce a free card because I know I was a small favorite and didn't want to let the other people draw out against a made hand.

Assuming that this hand is real (and this thread is not shens), you should have laid down those pocket-9s when 3 overcards hit on the flop instead of calling. And to raise in first position on the river when the board had you beat? And you weren't trying to bluff? wow...

 

[wheresmybacon]

Originally posted by: scootermaster
But I know that the expected value of a set is really high with a lot of callers because of the postflop equity. So I made a value check to try and induce a free card because I know I was a small favorite and didn't want to let the other people draw out against a made hand.

*brain esplodes*

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: jupiter57

Originally posted by: chambersc
My belief is that all online poker is rigged. I've seen no proof otherwise.

Nahhhhhh!
Surely these sites don't exist to MAKE MONEY?

They make money regardless of who wins or loses.

but they can make more money if they entice the first time players to stay by making them win most of the time.

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: scootermaster
But I know that the expected value of a set is really high with a lot of callers because of the postflop equity. So I made a value check to try and induce a free card because I know I was a small favorite and didn't want to let the other people draw out against a made hand.

On that board, your EV is basically zero against six other players on the turn (when you hit) and on the river (when you were counterfeited). There are twelve cards out there in those six players' hands. The odds that someone holding a single Jack on the turn is almost 100%. You are drawing to 10 outs to win the hand, meaning you are going to get there one out of five times.

When the J came on the river, you were hoping for a six-way chop that could be prevented by someone holding a single Ace. After that flop, and the fact that the flop and turn were checked, the likelyhood of someone holding an A is very good

And you are really talking in circles. You gave a free card for value when you don't want people to draw out on you? How does that make any sense?