Does anyone else not feel bad?

[Skunkwourk]

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: m0mentary

Originally posted by: Xylitol

I care about the holocaust. I also care about earthquakes killing people in Japan.

Originally posted by: SampSon
10,000 out of 1.3 billion people is nothing.
China could lose 1 million and not even bat an eye.

Now that I think about it - I think that's the reason

hmm ok, well would it make a difference if the 10,000 Chinese deaths were the result of shoving them into an incinerator? torture?

yes because that's gross

ok why not earthquake then? Seems to me, that you just don't value Chinese people then. Mystery solved.

 

[Capt Caveman]

You care about people dying by an earthquake in Japan but not China? You obviously very stupid and immature. B/c you don't how a gov't treats it's people, you don't care if those people suffer. Hope you have some suffering in your life to get a little retrospective.

Saw on the news a young child that needed to have his legs amputated in order to be able to be pulled out of the rabble.

 

[Ricemarine]

Originally posted by: m0mentary

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: m0mentary

Originally posted by: Xylitol

I care about the holocaust. I also care about earthquakes killing people in Japan.

Originally posted by: SampSon
10,000 out of 1.3 billion people is nothing.
China could lose 1 million and not even bat an eye.

Now that I think about it - I think that's the reason

hmm ok, well would it make a difference if the 10,000 Chinese deaths were the result of shoving them into an incinerator? torture?

yes because that's gross

ok why not earthquake then? Seems to me, that you just don't value Chinese people.

Apples and oranges.

 

[Skunkwourk]

Originally posted by: Ricemarine

Originally posted by: m0mentary

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: m0mentary

Originally posted by: Xylitol

I care about the holocaust. I also care about earthquakes killing people in Japan.

Originally posted by: SampSon
10,000 out of 1.3 billion people is nothing.
China could lose 1 million and not even bat an eye.

Now that I think about it - I think that's the reason

hmm ok, well would it make a difference if the 10,000 Chinese deaths were the result of shoving them into an incinerator? torture?

yes because that's gross

ok why not earthquake then? Seems to me, that you just don't value Chinese people.

Apples and oranges.

lol, so wrong. People are people dammit!

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
You care about people dying by an earthquake in Japan but not China? You obviously very stupid and immature. B/c you don't how a gov't treats it's people, you don't care if those people suffer. Hope you have some suffering in your life to get a little retrospective.

Saw on the news a young child that needed to have his legs amputated in order to be able to be pulled out of the rabble.

It's kinda hard to understand you, but I was able to get the general meaning.

Why is it immature of me to not care about the Chinese dying? It's stupid I admit but definitely not immature.

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: m0mentary

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: m0mentary

Originally posted by: Xylitol

I care about the holocaust. I also care about earthquakes killing people in Japan.

Originally posted by: SampSon
10,000 out of 1.3 billion people is nothing.
China could lose 1 million and not even bat an eye.

Now that I think about it - I think that's the reason

hmm ok, well would it make a difference if the 10,000 Chinese deaths were the result of shoving them into an incinerator? torture?

yes because that's gross

ok why not earthquake then? Seems to me, that you just don't value Chinese people then. Mystery solved.

I care about the Chinese
But apparently my subconscious doesn't care about the ones living in China

Originally posted by: m0mentary

Originally posted by: Ricemarine

Originally posted by: m0mentary

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: m0mentary

Originally posted by: Xylitol

I care about the holocaust. I also care about earthquakes killing people in Japan.

Originally posted by: SampSon
10,000 out of 1.3 billion people is nothing.
China could lose 1 million and not even bat an eye.

Now that I think about it - I think that's the reason

hmm ok, well would it make a difference if the 10,000 Chinese deaths were the result of shoving them into an incinerator? torture?

yes because that's gross

ok why not earthquake then? Seems to me, that you just don't value Chinese people.

Apples and oranges.

lol, so wrong. People are people dammit!

That's like comparing the jews dying during the holocaust with the Germans getting shot in combat

 

[djheater]

I am sad and sympathetic toward them, as I am toward the Burmese tragedy.
It's a terrible tragedy.

 

[clamum]

Uh I think it's terrible. Over 10,000 innocent people losing their life? Guess I'm a bleeding heart.

 

[coldmeat]

There was an earthquake in china?

 

[alien42]

"them"

you are an idiot, the quake is a natural disaster and HUMAN tragedy. politics, race and religion are not involved.

 

[0roo0roo]

it makes their countrys coverage after curb stomping tibetans and censoring athletes more sympathetic. the main issue is still the olympics, and this earth quake makes it easier for the chinese thuggish government to push every other issue under the rug.

as for burmas suffering, guess who supports the burmese government?
yes china.
whos selling weapons and supporting the sudanese government killing people left and right..
yes china.
never mind north korea...

 

[Skunkwourk]

Originally posted by: Xylitol

That's like comparing the jews dying during the holocaust with the Germans getting shot in combat

Not quite the same, one was the "aggressor", the other was a victim. For the Chinese v. Japanese, both were victims, the earthquake was the "aggressor".

 

[ICRS]

I also don't feel bad. I don't even feel about the deaths in Burma from the cyclone. FYI 9/11 didn't faze my either, no sadness felt at all.

 

[Gothgar]

I don't really care either... I mean it sucks and all... but still

 

[CottonRabbit]

Pulled from a P&N thread, graphic

If those images do not make you feel even slightly bad, then you are either an irrational idiot, or you have an ingrained hate of Chinese people that even you may not be aware of.

 

[Ricemarine]

Originally posted by: m0mentary

Originally posted by: Xylitol

That's like comparing the jews dying during the holocaust with the Germans getting shot in combat

Not quite the same, one was the "aggressor", the other was a victim. For the Chinese v. Japanese, both were victims, the earthquake was the "aggressor".

I don't think the Earth itself gets to decide whether or not it wants to kill people via earthquakes. That'd be crazy though :shocked:. Still apples and oranges IMO. But either way, showing that a person read the article shows that they care in the slighest bit, and that all that matters. The world moves on without the 0.09% of China's population.

 

[zinfamous]

considering a large part of the initial deaths were children, in school

oh, and it's upwards of 40,000 now...

 

[cubby1223]

There's just too much that happens in the world for anyone to be capable of caring about everything.

 

[TwiceOver]

I have co-workers over there visiting our China CM... You can fuck yourself. And when you get done, eat shit and die.

IMO

BTW, We are well known for our quality so you suck my balls when it comes to the "crappy Chinese products". Just because a few CMs have bad practices, doesn't mean they all do. Also... Show me an American that can produce quality products at a *reasonable* price and I'll show you an illegal immigrant. Fact of the matter is, we cost too much, fuck off and deal with it.

EDIT: DBag Alert Below...

 

[SampSon]

I find it hilarious how posters react on this forum.
They will take whatever stance is necessary, as long as it fits into the status quo.

How many of you really, honestly, deeply care about what the OP is talking about? Do you spend more than 2 minutes a day thinking about it?
Have you done anything more than just 'feel bad' or 'feel for thoes people', for more than is minimally required by your fickle conscience?
The resounding answer is NO.

This false, bleeding heart talk is little more than feel good bullshit. You people don't really care. You know why you don't really care?
Because it doesn't directly affect you. If some other tragedy happened right now (like they do every fucking day but no one (media) pays attention), you would quickly forget about this quake in China and think about how terrible that new situation is. Then 10 minutes after it leaves your direct line of sight you would forget about it and go on with your life. The reality is that if it's not right in front of your face, you simply don't give a shit.

The horrors that go on in this world on a daily basis are amazing. The reality is that if you are not directly affected by it, it really doesn't matter to you. Believe as much as you want that you're a compassionate human being, looking at pictures of dead children and broken families while you mabey shed a tear. Deep down inside you simply don't care. If you did care so deeply, you would be paralyzed by constant mourning.

So for the love of god would you people fess up to your feigned concern and get along with your lives. For once be honest with yourselves and realize how selfish you actually are. If your significant other, or closest family member fell fatally ill tomorrow, half of the entire population of China or India or whereever could die and you really honestly would not give a shit.

Personally I think it's a tragedy, but that's all it is. Yes it's sad, yes many lives will be changed forever, but mine isn't one of them, and most likely neither is yours. Today I went the entire day without spending one second thinking about the quake in China, until I clicked on this thread. Does that make it any less tragic? No. It does mean that in my life that quake in China means very little, which is why I devote very little time to thinking about it.

 

[OUCaptain]

"Billion mor were day come from"

so many reasons to love Lethal Weapon

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: TwiceOver
I have co-workers over there visiting our China CM... You can fuck yourself. And when you get done, eat shit and die.

IMO

BTW, We are well known for our quality so you suck my balls when it comes to the "crappy Chinese products". Just because a few CMs have bad practices, doesn't mean they all do. Also... Show me an American that can produce quality products at a *reasonable* price and I'll show you an illegal immigrant. Fact of the matter is, we cost too much, fuck off and deal with it.

Trust me...Chinese quality sucks. You don't realize it because you don't know quality when you see it. Every time we buy a Chinese product we end up regretting it because it does not last at all. We always end up ordering something made in the US or Europe in the end. The price is worth it because the product last 10x longer and is better to begin with so for total cost of ownership the quality product always wins. Too bad people are too stupid and just want to spend as little money up front as possible. If they actually sat down and calculated how many times they have to replace the junk product opposed to spending more initially then China would be in an economic world of hurt.

That being said it is really sad all those people are suffering. Too bad their government only cares because they need good press going into the Olympics.

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: TwiceOver
I have co-workers over there visiting our China CM... You can fuck yourself. And when you get done, eat shit and die.

IMO

BTW, We are well known for our quality so you suck my balls when it comes to the "crappy Chinese products". Just because a few CMs have bad practices, doesn't mean they all do. Also... Show me an American that can produce quality products at a *reasonable* price and I'll show you an illegal immigrant. Fact of the matter is, we cost too much, fuck off and deal with it.

EDIT: DBag Alert Below...

I never say they all do... just most of them. I did however say that the media does a good job of portraying the Chinese as crappy product makers

Originally posted by: SampSon
I find it hilarious how posters react on this forum.
They will take whatever stance is necessary, as long as it fits into the status quo.

How many of you really, honestly, deeply care about what the OP is talking about? Do you spend more than 2 minutes a day thinking about it?
Have you done anything more than just 'feel bad' or 'feel for thoes people', for more than is minimally required by your fickle conscience?
The resounding answer is NO.

This false, bleeding heart talk is little more than feel good bullshit. You people don't really care. You know why you don't really care?
Because it doesn't directly affect you. If some other tragedy happened right now (like they do every fucking day but no one (media) pays attention), you would quickly forget about this quake in China and think about how terrible that new situation is. Then 10 minutes after it leaves your direct line of sight you would forget about it and go on with your life. The reality is that if it's not right in front of your face, you simply don't give a shit.

The horrors that go on in this world on a daily basis are amazing. The reality is that if you are not directly affected by it, it really doesn't matter to you. Believe as much as you want that you're a compassionate human being, looking at pictures of dead children and broken families while you mabey shed a tear. Deep down inside you simply don't care. If you did care so deeply, you would be paralyzed by constant mourning.

So for the love of god would you people fess up to your feigned concern and get along with your lives. For once be honest with yourselves and realize how selfish you actually are. If your significant other, or closest family member fell fatally ill tomorrow, half of the entire population of China or India or whereever could die and you really honestly would not give a shit.

Personally I think it's a tragedy, but that's all it is. Yes it's sad, yes many lives will be changed forever, but mine isn't one of them, and most likely neither is yours. Today I went the entire day without spending one second thinking about the quake in China, until I clicked on this thread. Does that make it any less tragic? No. It does mean that in my life that quake in China means very little, which is why I devote very little time to thinking about it.

That sounds about right

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: TwiceOver
I have co-workers over there visiting our China CM... You can fuck yourself. And when you get done, eat shit and die.

IMO

BTW, We are well known for our quality so you suck my balls when it comes to the "crappy Chinese products". Just because a few CMs have bad practices, doesn't mean they all do. Also... Show me an American that can produce quality products at a *reasonable* price and I'll show you an illegal immigrant. Fact of the matter is, we cost too much, fuck off and deal with it.

EDIT: DBag Alert Below...

I never say they all do... just most of them. I did however say that the media does a good job of portraying the Chinese as crappy product makers

they can't blame the media, the shadiness and corruption does it all by itself.
http://consumerist.com/tag/chinese-poison-train/
and poisoning a few foreigners or western devils is pretty much payback as far as many of them are concerned. its not like the west where companies are independent. companies there are in bed with the government, and any foreign company must go into a joint venture with a chinese company to do business there effectively putting them in bed with the chinese government. so the responsibility of their government for all this is much higher.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: m0mentary

Originally posted by: Xylitol

Originally posted by: PolymerTim
Hmmm, I would think that the vast majority of those killed had nothing to do with the running of their government or the decision to make low quality products (as opposed to just working in a factory and just doing what they are told to make a living).

I think it is a shame when anyone stops caring for human death and suffering, whatever the circumstances. But hey, if those excuses make you feel better about not caring...

For the suffering in China and many other places around the world.

They're just the possible reasons that could have made me callous to this. I don't know what

I think its just being selfish. If it doesn't affect/benefit you directly, you don't care.

OP, this doesn't have much impact on me either. I think part of the cause of the high death toll is the shoddy construction practices and corrupt building inspectors in China, combined with low quality materials, nearly non-existant building codes or enforcement of the ones they do have.
I built bridges for much of my working career. Almost every government entity we worked for forbid the use of foreign steel. In part to support American steel producers, but more, because of low quality products that came with falsified certifications.
For example: one major SF bridge retrofit I worked on 10 years ago bought bolts for the steel erection/connections from a contractor who ended up buying them from a Chinese company.
They came in with certifications that met Cal-Trans specs, every bucket of bolts & nuts had a similar cert attached to it, but when Cal-Trans set up their field test for the bolts, over 90% of them failed to meet shear tests, torque tests, and several others. Why?
Because they were poorly made, of sub-standard materials, and came with fraudulent certifications.
Needless to say, the company had to put in a rush order for replacement bolts, and it took them a couple of months to fill the order, causing delays in the construction process. This was not a small order of bolts/nuts BTW, it was basically for a full 40 foot semi load of specialized structural steel connectors...not the kind of thing you could run down to Home Depot and buy...oh wait, those would be Chinese made too...
They were going to sue the supplier but I never did hear how the lawsuit ended up.

Chinese companies have EARNED the reputation for turning out sub-standard, cheap quality junk. It wasn't given to them by the media, nor by the unions who represented displaced workers, they earned it by turning out sub-standard quality, cheap JUNK, some of it poisonous to the very consumers it was meant for.

There's a thread in P&N on the subject of the Chinese quake, and I opined much the same thing about building quality being at least a part of the cause of the high death toll, and got the following in my PM box:

"Hey buddy..your american buildings fare no better...what happened in that bridge a while a ago? Did it suddenly collapse..hmm..oh how about the 9.11? The so called superior american engineering and construction can't even withstand two little plane strike? Good grief and now you are saying Chinese building collapse at a 7.9 earthquake. So please STFU. "

Sounds like I struck a nerve.

I'm much older than most of the people here. I was raised to hate and distrust Communists. (Better Dead than Red, Kill a Commie for your Mommie, that sort of thing) and went to war against the evil Communists in Vietnam. We were also taught that the Chicoms were behind the North Vietnam aggression against the Republic of South Vietnam, and were our sworn enemy as well.
While I'm glad to see the Chinese government making some changes for the better, as with Tianamen Square, we're reminded that they are still the Evil Red Menace.

Enough P&N rambling

OP, like you, I'm somewhat surprised that I don't care more about this tragedy nor the one in Burma, nor the big Iranian earthquake a while back. I don't think it's a hate or dislike for their people, nearly as much as it is a hate and dislike for their government.