Does anyone else not feel bad?

Xylitol

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I don't know why, but I just don't feel bad for them even though more than 10,000 of them are reported to have died (death count is rising).
Maybe it's because of all the media attention to crappy Chinese products or maybe it's the fact that they're communists who don't give their citizens freedom of speech - I don't know.

I just don't care
Anyone else?

Edit: Just to clarify - I know that it doesn't make sense that those citizens had nothing to do with crappy products / the government, yet I don't care about them. I know that's illogical but I was just wondering if anyone else felt this way for some reason

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
you're a bad person.

QFT

 

SampSon

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It doesn't directly affect you, so you probably wouldn't care.

Just like if you disappeared from the face of the earth, I wouldn't even bat an eye.
 

Canai

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:confused:

While China is exploiting the incident to raise foreign opinion of the government, thousands of people just like you and me are dead.

So you want to punish the people for being born in China?
 

So

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That's pretty awful actually. It's not like these people were all party elite or striving to induce lead poisoning in all foreigners. They were mostly just fairly poor people whose whole villages were destroyed. Most of the progress that region made in the last twenty years was wiped away in three minutes.
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: So
That's pretty awful actually. It's not like these people were all party elite or striving to induce lead poisoning in all foreigners. They were mostly just fairly poor people whose whole villages were destroyed. Most of the progress that region made in the last twenty years was wiped away in three minutes.

I know
I'm just saying that for some odd reason I don't care. I should be feeling bad because these people didn't ask to be born in China or be killed by an earthquake, but it's just not the same as other natural disasters in foreign countries for me...
 

newb111

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Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: So
That's pretty awful actually. It's not like these people were all party elite or striving to induce lead poisoning in all foreigners. They were mostly just fairly poor people whose whole villages were destroyed. Most of the progress that region made in the last twenty years was wiped away in three minutes.

I know
I'm just saying that for some odd reason I don't care. I should be feeling bad because these people didn't ask to be born in China or be killed by an earthquake, but it's just not the same as other natural disasters in foreign countries for me...

Am I a bad person for wishing the same happens to you?
 

Skunkwourk

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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
you're a bad person.

x2 cause poor Chinese products =/= 10,000 justified deaths. I dislike the Chinese government as much as the next person but Im betting the majority of those deaths happened to poor farmers and families.

Edit: just pretend it's the country of your parent's origin and see how you feel.
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: newb111
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: So
That's pretty awful actually. It's not like these people were all party elite or striving to induce lead poisoning in all foreigners. They were mostly just fairly poor people whose whole villages were destroyed. Most of the progress that region made in the last twenty years was wiped away in three minutes.

I know
I'm just saying that for some odd reason I don't care. I should be feeling bad because these people didn't ask to be born in China or be killed by an earthquake, but it's just not the same as other natural disasters in foreign countries for me...

Am I a bad person for wishing the same happens to you?

not really
 

PolymerTim

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Hmmm, I would think that the vast majority of those killed had nothing to do with the running of their government or the decision to make low quality products (as opposed to just working in a factory and just doing what they are told to make a living).

I think it is a shame when anyone stops caring for human death and suffering, whatever the circumstances. But hey, if those excuses make you feel better about not caring... :(

rose.gif
For the suffering in China and many other places around the world.
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: PolymerTim
Hmmm, I would think that the vast majority of those killed had nothing to do with the running of their government or the decision to make low quality products (as opposed to just working in a factory and just doing what they are told to make a living).

I think it is a shame when anyone stops caring for human death and suffering, whatever the circumstances. But hey, if those excuses make you feel better about not caring... :(

rose.gif
For the suffering in China and many other places around the world.

They're just the possible reasons that could have made me callous to this. I don't know what
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Xylitol
I don't know why, but I just don't feel bad for them even though more than 10,000 of them are reported to have died (death count is rising).
Maybe it's because of all the media attention to crappy Chinese products or maybe it's the fact that they're communists who don't give their citizens freedom of speech.

Yeah, because we all know how the regular run-of-the-mill citizens are responsible for the quality of the products that their mega-corporations choose to make (and our mega-corporations choose to buy), and for taking away their own freedom of speech.

So I suppose you think that the US deserved 9/11 because of the government's negative involvement in the middle east, huh? Because, honestly, that's less of a logical stretch than what you have made.
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Xylitol
I don't know why, but I just don't feel bad for them even though more than 10,000 of them are reported to have died (death count is rising).
Maybe it's because of all the media attention to crappy Chinese products or maybe it's the fact that they're communists who don't give their citizens freedom of speech.

Yeah, because we all know how the regular run-of-the-mill citizens are responsible for the quality of the products that their mega-corporations choose to make (and our mega-corporations choose to buy), and for taking away their own freedom of speech.

So I suppose you think that the US deserved 9/11 because of the government's negative involvement in the middle east, huh? Because, honestly, that's less of a logical stretch than what you have made.

I said in my posts later that I know it's not the people's faults. It doesn't make sense - that's why I was curious about why I feel this way
 

Skunkwourk

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Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: PolymerTim
Hmmm, I would think that the vast majority of those killed had nothing to do with the running of their government or the decision to make low quality products (as opposed to just working in a factory and just doing what they are told to make a living).

I think it is a shame when anyone stops caring for human death and suffering, whatever the circumstances. But hey, if those excuses make you feel better about not caring... :(

rose.gif
For the suffering in China and many other places around the world.

They're just the possible reasons that could have made me callous to this. I don't know what

I think its just being selfish. If it doesn't affect/benefit you directly, you don't care.
 

SampSon

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10,000 out of 1.3 billion people is nothing.
China could lose 1 million and not even bat an eye.
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: m0mentary
Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: PolymerTim
Hmmm, I would think that the vast majority of those killed had nothing to do with the running of their government or the decision to make low quality products (as opposed to just working in a factory and just doing what they are told to make a living).

I think it is a shame when anyone stops caring for human death and suffering, whatever the circumstances. But hey, if those excuses make you feel better about not caring... :(

rose.gif
For the suffering in China and many other places around the world.

They're just the possible reasons that could have made me callous to this. I don't know what

I think its just being selfish. If it doesn't affect/benefit you directly, you don't care.

I care about the holocaust. I also care about earthquakes killing people in Japan.

Originally posted by: SampSon
10,000 out of 1.3 billion people is nothing.
China could lose 1 million and not even bat an eye.

Now that I think about it - I think that's the reason
 

PolymerTim

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Originally posted by: Xylitol
Originally posted by: PolymerTim
Hmmm, I would think that the vast majority of those killed had nothing to do with the running of their government or the decision to make low quality products (as opposed to just working in a factory and just doing what they are told to make a living).

I think it is a shame when anyone stops caring for human death and suffering, whatever the circumstances. But hey, if those excuses make you feel better about not caring... :(

rose.gif
For the suffering in China and many other places around the world.

They're just the possible reasons that could have made me callous to this. I don't know what

I have a few more possible reasons:
-you've never personally seen these people on the other side of the world and have no personal connection with them.
-Today's media (both real and the game variety) is so filled with tragedy that many become immune to it.
-Possibly you've had difficult periods in your life where no one seemed to care what you were going through.

I don't know the reasons for you, but I think the above are pretty typical. Whatever the reason for not caring, it is not an excuse. In my opinion, it is our duty and our nature to care for others. If you make the decision that it is important, then you can do something about it. Caring is infectious. If you start practicing it actively, it grows inside you and spreads to others.
 

Skunkwourk

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Originally posted by: Xylitol

I care about the holocaust. I also care about earthquakes killing people in Japan.

Originally posted by: SampSon
10,000 out of 1.3 billion people is nothing.
China could lose 1 million and not even bat an eye.

Now that I think about it - I think that's the reason

hmm ok, well would it make a difference if the 10,000 Chinese deaths were the result of shoving them into an incinerator? torture?
 

Xylitol

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Originally posted by: m0mentary
Originally posted by: Xylitol

I care about the holocaust. I also care about earthquakes killing people in Japan.

Originally posted by: SampSon
10,000 out of 1.3 billion people is nothing.
China could lose 1 million and not even bat an eye.

Now that I think about it - I think that's the reason

hmm ok, well would it make a difference if the 10,000 Chinese deaths were the result of shoving them into an incinerator? torture?

yes because that's gross