Does anyone care if MAGAts don't vaccinate?

[Annisman*]

It's pretty incredible that some of you have turned getting vaccinated into an entirely political endeavor.

 

[BoomerD]

Of course I care...not because I care if they get the virus, but rather that if they do, they could spread it to others. (and the vaccine appears to be only moderately effective, and perhaps less so against the variants.

 

[Jhhnn]

It's pretty incredible that some of you have turned getting vaccinated into an entirely political endeavor.

Anti-vaxxers did that long ago. The weirdest part of it all is that it's Trumpsters, whose cult leader touted vaccines as our salvation. I figure it's just another way to say "Fuck you, Libtards!" The sooner we achieve herd immunity, the sooner we'll be able to dispense with all the pandemic restrictions, but, well, nobody is accusing them of being able to make sense out of anything, anyway.

 

[WelshBloke]

If you get a big enough pool of people that won't vaccinate against this then it's going to become endemic in the population.
If it does that we can expect to see lots of nasty variations popping up.
If we get a variant that's like one of the newer more virulent ones and also not effected by the current vaccines I think governments would certainly start looking at either incentivising people to get vaccinated or forcing them.

 

[WelshBloke]

Do you think the military is going to force vaccinations? Remember, the LGGBBQ brigade doesn't join the army. It's those pesky rethukkkklicans... I doubt they will be coming to my door with their big guns. You really do live in a fantasy land. Your mental illness is showing here.

Out of interest what's your rationale for not getting vaccinated?

 

[quikah]

Yes. If this thing ever gets under control I imagine that countries will start banning people outright from areas with high infection rates despite vaccine status.

 

[Commodus]

I absolutely care if they don't, both because I don't want them to learn from their mistake the hard way and because we need as many people as possible vaccinated if we're going to return to something resembling normal.

We should be offering compassion to people even if they wouldn't supply it in return. And frankly, serious COVID-19 cases are no joke. The thought of spending weeks in the hospital, the realization that your last contact with loved ones might be a video chat... I wouldn't want to inflict that on someone.

 

[Annisman*]

Forced vaccinations for a 99.8% survival rate ? Vaccines for children who are virtually unaffected by covid with almost no deaths ? I don't think it's crazy to see why some people aren't down with all of this and it's got nothing to do with Trump.

 

[Uhtrinity]

About 25% of our staff of 30 teachers didn't get vaccinated when it was offered. About half of our staff have now had it, two of which ended up in the hospital for 4 days, luckily no one died. The excuses range from it's all fake, I've had it already, or the vaccine hasn't been approved yet. We have been in session the entire school year with masks, a boat load of disinfectant and hand sanitizer. The bad thing is masks just became optional this week. Not feeling much sympathy for those who refused to get vaccinated other than the people who they might expose who haven't had the opportunity yet. I work in a high traffic area (computer lab), seeing about 500 students 3 times a week. I've enforced masks and as much social distancing that I can, but this masks optional thing has me very wary, even having been vaccinated.

 

[Uhtrinity]

Forced vaccinations for a 99.8% survival rate ? Vaccines for children who are virtually unaffected by covid with almost no deaths ? I don't think it's crazy to see why some people aren't down with all of this and it's got nothing to do with Trump.

Maybe 'mostly unaffected', but I know of a lot of kids who caught it and passed it along. All the way from 18 mos to 18 yo. My fiancés 13 yo caught it from a 18 month old baby in my fiancés daycare, that 18mo caught it from her father who got exposed at work. Several of our staff caught it from students. The transmission rate might be lower, but it's not zero.

 

[abj13]

Forced vaccinations for a 99.8% survival rate ? Vaccines for children who are virtually unaffected by covid with almost no deaths ? I don't think it's crazy to see why some people aren't down with all of this and it's got nothing to do with Trump.

Hmmm.

On the one hand, we have vaccines that have demonstrated
75-95% efficacy
Tremendous safety

or

We can
-Shutdown public places for 1+ year
-Put many businesses on the verge of collapse or have already collapsed
-Stifled international travel
-Overwhelmed hospital systems
-Millions of hospitalization days taken up by COVID-19 patients
-Expensive drugs (Remdesivir and Tocilizumab) and other treatments (ventillators, ICU time)
-500,000+ deaths in the US
-2.5+ million deaths across the world
-Untold economic impact

Yeah it is crazy to see why people aren't down with all this...

 

[cytg111]

Not me!

I just see it as the gene pool self cleansing.

Imagine a planet, where people actually got along...

Concern about Republican vaccine hesitancy is growing

Republican men are least likely to want a shot.

www.axios.com

No. But stuff like festivals are about to open soon and you are gonna be required to have a vaccine passport... And you know these assholes are gonna fake em. Now. To rat them out or not, that is the question.

 

[cytg111]

Wow. How racist of you...

And I'm not surprised of who "ha ha"'d your post. Again the man of tolerance as he mentioned in the OP "Imagine a planet, where people actually got along... " I guess getting along is an annihilation of all white men.

Explain the racist part plz.
You cant. Good. Then walk it back.
Its not like anyone is rounding them up while chanting “JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US” and feeding them into gas chambers.
No. After repeated warnings only to get FREEDUMB back all one can do is watch these sad individuals walk off the edge one by one.

 

[shortylickens]

I swear to got I'm gonna track down Rupert Murdoch and beat him to death with a 3 pound sledge hammer.

That man has ruined millions of brains and set the worlds greatest country down an irreversible path of annihilation.

 

[cytg111]

That man has ruined millions of brains and set the worlds greatest country down an irreversible path of annihilation.

True that.

 

[Annisman*]

Hmmm.

On the one hand, we have vaccines that have demonstrated
75-95% efficacy
Tremendous safety

or

We can
-Shutdown public places for 1+ year
-Put many businesses on the verge of collapse or have already collapsed
-Stifled international travel
-Overwhelmed hospital systems
-Millions of hospitalization days taken up by COVID-19 patients
-Expensive drugs (Remdesivir and Tocilizumab) and other treatments (ventillators, ICU time)
-500,000+ deaths in the US
-2.5+ million deaths across the world
-Untold economic impact

Yeah it is crazy to see why people aren't down with all this...

Hey if you're convinced lockdowns masks and vaccines was the right way to combat this you'll probably never understand the other side.

 

[abj13]

Hey if you're convinced lockdowns masks and vaccines was the right way to combat this you'll probably never understand the other side.

What is this "other side?" The other side that doesn't want to acknowledge reality of the demonstrated benefits of social distancing and mask wearing? Please define.

 

[shortylickens]

If you get a big enough pool of people that won't vaccinate against this then it's going to become endemic in the population.

I'd like to again remind everyone that the people who didnt think COVID was real and who think it cant affect them and dont need to wear masks are the EXACT same people who believed AIDS was a gays only disease and they should have been arrested and put in special prison camps so they couldnt harm the Good People of america.

 

[shortylickens]

It's pretty incredible that some of you have turned getting vaccinated into an entirely political endeavor.

You should probably go back to your nazi propaganda sites where you'll feel safe and welcome.

 

[K1052]

Hey if you're convinced lockdowns masks and vaccines was the right way to combat this you'll probably never understand the other side.

Dr Navarro, is that you?

 

[MtnMan]

There is a whole subculture of utter ignorance circulating about the vaccine, pandering to the two major cults formed by fundy religious followers, and trump followers. Both of these are beyond the normal stupidity of the anti-vaxxer Karen's.

I still take a peek at a forum that is completely infested with members of these cults. These are all veterans, so I know damn well they were lined up and vaccinated against many things before deployments, and I don't remember that I ever was given the option to refuse when we were in the "shot" line.

The latest is a list of 31 reasons not to receive the vaccine. The utter ignorance listed is really sobering when one considers how low on the intelligence scale one has to stoop to, to actually buy into this crap. It was penned by a rabbi in Israel, but is being embraced by evangelical christians here. But then I stop and think, these people also believe the universe is 6,000 years old, the ark is a factual event, and other tales of fantasy.

No, I won't provide a link, the site doesn't deserve the traffic... Of course Bill Gates was mentioned, drug companies bad, medical community bad, government bad, will somehow reduce world population, along with flat out lies like "many people have died right after receiving their shot"...

It would really take someone with quite an imagination to come up with this list. I think even Steven King might struggle to make a list this extensive.

 

[thilanliyan]

Hey if you're convinced lockdowns masks and vaccines was the right way to combat this you'll probably never understand the other side.

What are the other way(s) to combat it?

 

[Jhhnn]

What are the other way(s) to combat it?

Put your Faith in Jesus! Liberate Michigan! Hail Trump! Let the Rona flow through you!

 

[Annisman*]

What are the other way(s) to combat it?

I believe for the most part, the virus will move through a population infecting most or all of the population before it disappears.

Because I believe this my goal would be to protect those truly vulnerable (nursing home age persons and those who are very sick) while allowing everyone else to live their lives aka not shutting down the economy.

I would also focus on our nation as a whole improving our metabolic health and eliminating any co morbidities that we can control. The healthier we are the more likey our immune systems can defeat the virus with mild effects.

Lastly I would encourage all to get in the sun more or at the very least suppliment with vitamin D.

Edit: I would of course also encourage a vaccine to be researched in the interim

 

[Viper1j]

I absolutely care if they don't, both because I don't want them to learn from their mistake the hard way and because we need as many people as possible vaccinated if we're going to return to something resembling normal.

We should be offering compassion to people even if they wouldn't supply it in return. And frankly, serious COVID-19 cases are no joke. The thought of spending weeks in the hospital, the realization that your last contact with loved ones might be a video chat... I wouldn't want to inflict that on someone.

I remember those old cowboy movies, where the ranchers have to chase down the calf, tie its legs, and another rancher would walk over with a hot branding iron, and apply it to the hindquarters of a calf.

Who wants to volunteer to apply that scenario to MAGAts that refuse vaccinations?

Maybe 'mostly unaffected', but I know of a lot of kids who caught it and passed it along. All the way from 18 mos to 18 yo. My fiancés 13 yo caught it from a 18 month old baby in my fiancés daycare, that 18mo caught it from her father who got exposed at work. Several of our staff caught it from students. The transmission rate might be lower, but it's not zero.

I wonder what it does to the psyche of a six-year-old, to know that he killed grandma?