This is the thinking that prompted me to create the topic. The 8C/8T might offer:With such a lineup they would have to compete with 8c/16t zen against intel i7 4c/8t.
4c/8t Zen will not match (or beat) intels latest 4c/8t or they would have to sell low clocked 8c/18t at (below) intels i7 price. But then they will have low single thread performance, which they obviously don't want - bulldozer yet again?
If they leave such CPU with unlocked overclocking, they just obsoleted their high end products, which has nothing more than some additional cache and MHz that can be diminished with overclocking. Clearly not worth the price difference that will separate Workstation CPUs from enthusiast desktop CPUs.
meanwhile harvested or artificially gimped 8c/8t Zen will go circles around 4c/8t i7 and will be miles behind full 8c/16t Zen Workstation CPU, making a server premium well deserved.
It is very tricky to have a compelling product lineup that doesn't compete with itself, making obsolete the high profit part of the portfolio.
Oh that was just wishful thinking on my side. I hoped amd would offer us 8/8 Zen that will be to i7 what i5 is to i3 (8c/8t vs 4c/8t a'la 4c/4t vs 2c/4t)Look, if there's a price point between 8c/16t and 4c/8t then AMD can sell a 8c/8t chip there. Just do it to move the remainder of 8c chips that they can't sell at 8c/16t prices due to lack of demand (you know that's why Intel sells 4c/4t chips right?).
2M 2MB cache L2
88E 8c 8t eco
This's a business cpu 65w TDP, no HT.
It's not SR7|SR5 consumer product.
Only problem with this guy's breakdown is, don't the other 8c/16t Engineering Sample IDs we have say 88E also?Interesting. You can sell all kinds of funny stuff to biz folks, especially if you include that eco tag! It sure would reduce power consumption to just disable SMT.
article said:n order to create a six-core version AMD would need to either create a half-scale module or find a way to disable two of the cores on one of the constituent four-core complexes. Neither of which, to be fair, would be a particularly elegant or efficient solution.
Yes there will be dies with two cores on either side that don't pass snuff or are DOA, maybe they are saving these for a later SKU, possibly with high enough clocks to be better than an 8c/8t.But Shirley there will be some dies with two modules that don't pass testing?
It's not all or nothing, is it?
The rumor said it will be 4/8, 8/8, and 8/16
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