Documentary "Jesus Camp"

ayabe

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Holy Schmoly!

If this is a repost I apologize, but this is outrageous.

Here are some of the highlights,

"Speaking in tongues, weeping for salvation, praying for an end to abortion and worshipping a picture of President Bush -- these are some of the activities at Pastor Becky Fischer's Bible camp in North Dakota, "Kids on Fire," subject of the provocative new documentary, "Jesus Camp.""

"I want to see them as radically laying down their lives for the gospel as they are in Palestine, Pakistan and all those different places," Fisher said. "Because, excuse me, we have the truth."

"We're kinda being trained to be warriors," said another, "only in a funner way."


What are these people thinking? Their parents should be jailed for child abuse, I can't believe this is going on in America.

Edit here's a link to the trailer for the film: Jesus Camp
 

umbrella39

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Cool, little junior American terrorists. The only difference between them and their parents is that their parents did not need a boot camp to brainwash them. Their stupidity came naturally.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: shadow9d9
There is a HUGE difference between these kids and the muslim terrorists...

introduce them to poverty and disparity and you have the same
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: shadow9d9
There is a HUGE difference between these kids and the muslim terrorists...



Well the founder of the school has this as a goal:

"I want to see them as radically laying down their lives for the gospel as they are in Palestine, Pakistan and all those different places," Fisher said. "Because, excuse me, we have the truth."

and if you watch the trailer, they are asking 5-6 year old kids, "Who wants to lay their life down for Jesus" or something close to that. This is brainwashing plain and simple and is the same kind of crap that goes on in radical mosques.
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: shadow9d9
There is a HUGE difference between these kids and the muslim terrorists...

Is there? Radical religiousness is the same no matter what sect it falls under. Because, we all know, Christians have "the truth". Of course God would want us to hate our fellow man and either convert or kill him. Because they are destined for Hell anyway.

This is what following the word of men (Bible) does, further corrupts and subjugates.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: shadow9d9
There is a HUGE difference between these kids and the muslim terrorists...

Yes, the continent they live on and the color of their skin. Short of that, no difference in what they are being brainwashed into believing.
 

DealMonkey

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If those kids can be trained to fire an AK and RPGs (instead of fighting with sticks), they may come in handy in the upcoming Crusades! ;)
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
There is a HUGE difference between these kids and the muslim terrorists...



Well the founder of the school has this as a goal:

"I want to see them as radically laying down their lives for the gospel as they are in Palestine, Pakistan and all those different places," Fisher said. "Because, excuse me, we have the truth."

and if you watch the trailer, they are asking 5-6 year old kids, "Who wants to lay their life down for Jesus" or something close to that. This is brainwashing plain and simple and is the same kind of crap that goes on in radical mosques.


Yeh same thing... someone else does the convincing and the dying while the one who thought up the idea lives a comfortable life.
 

ayabe

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I think the kid with the rat-tail is my favorite and the kids flopping around on the ground. As painful as it is, I think I am going to try and see this film.

The saddest part of it all is that these people are just out to make money off of this, they are just raising their own little Christian Consumers, who will buy their crappy video games, read their crappy books, and donate huge sums of money to mega churches.

It's shameful.
 

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Not to pick a nit, but is it Fisher or Fischer? The author of the article needs an editor.

I couldn't see the trailer, but were these kids supposed to lay down their lives or lay down their lives while taking others? I would need to know that before saying they are equivalent to Muslim terrorists.
 

ayabe

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From an IMDB review of the movie:

"statements are made such as "there is no such thing as global warming" and that "all homosexuals are going to hell."


WTF does Jesus have to do with Global Warming?
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
There is a HUGE difference between these kids and the muslim terrorists...

introduce them to poverty and disparity and you have the same

A lot of the 9-11 terrorists were well educated and had money.
Try again.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
There is a HUGE difference between these kids and the muslim terrorists...

Yes, the continent they live on and the color of their skin. Short of that, no difference in what they are being brainwashed into believing.

Ill await the next swath of Chritian terrorist bombings killing thousands of people a year.

Until then, your comparison is invalid, try again.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
There is a HUGE difference between these kids and the muslim terrorists...

Yes, the continent they live on and the color of their skin. Short of that, no difference in what they are being brainwashed into believing.

Ill await the next swath of Chritian terrorist bombings killing thousands of people a year.

Until then, your comparison is invalid, try again.



Yeah, OK, so we have to WAIT until they start killing before we can acknowledge the problem and do something about it. That logic worked great pre-9/11 Try again.
 

ayabe

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Here is a clip of this Fisher/Fischer(I've seen it spelled both ways in many different publications, perhaps this woman doesn't know how to spell her name either) woman talking about Harry Potter(at the end), good grief. There is no such thing as a warlock.

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Czar

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
There is a HUGE difference between these kids and the muslim terrorists...

introduce them to poverty and disparity and you have the same

A lot of the 9-11 terrorists were well educated and had money.
Try again.

take a look at the rest of the world
and then try again
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
There is a HUGE difference between these kids and the muslim terrorists...

Yes, the continent they live on and the color of their skin. Short of that, no difference in what they are being brainwashed into believing.

Ill await the next swath of Chritian terrorist bombings killing thousands of people a year.

Until then, your comparison is invalid, try again.



Yeah, OK, so we have to WAIT until they start killing before we can acknowledge the problem and do something about it. That logic worked great pre-9/11 Try again.

What are you going to do, restrict their religious freedoms because you dont approve of them? Hello Stalin, have we met?

Pre-911 we knew Islamic fundamentalists and AQ bombed people to further their goal, we just decided to ignore it until it bit us in the ass.

Until Christians start strapping bombs to themselves, going into malls across the country in mass, your comparison is wrong.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
There is a HUGE difference between these kids and the muslim terrorists...

introduce them to poverty and disparity and you have the same

A lot of the 9-11 terrorists were well educated and had money.
Try again.

take a look at the rest of the world
and then try again


The idea that poverty is the root cause of this is a bunch of crap when you look at a lot of the people running these organizations and many of them who blow themselves up.

Once you get past the idea that getting people out of poverty will somehow solve this problem, you can move onto the realization they do hate the west as much as they proclaim they do.

OBL, that guy was nothing but impoverished his entire life :disgust:
 

Polish3d

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
There is a HUGE difference between these kids and the muslim terrorists...

introduce them to poverty and disparity and you have the same

When are people going to understand that a great many of the mujahideen ("terrorists") are upper class, educated individuals.

Not that you are one, but I swear, leftists are so obsessed with poverty being the root of all problems it drives me crazy. (They seem to be equally obsessed with the notion that the only solution to poverty is to "give stuff up.")

Anyway, what you said is inaccurate.
 

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Originally posted by: Frackal
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
There is a HUGE difference between these kids and the muslim terrorists...

introduce them to poverty and disparity and you have the same

When are people going to understand that a great many of the mujahideen ("terrorists") are upper class, educated individuals.

Not that you are one, but I swear, leftists are so obsessed with poverty being the root of all problems it drives me crazy. (They seem to be equally obsessed with the notion that the only solution to poverty is to "give stuff up.")

Anyway, what you said is inaccurate.

the leftists need to revise and say: All problems are caused by poverty and religious radical fundies!

there we go

FLAMESUIT ON!!!

 
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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
There is a HUGE difference between these kids and the muslim terrorists...

Yes, the continent they live on and the color of their skin. Short of that, no difference in what they are being brainwashed into believing.

There is that part where they aren't strapping bombs to their chests and wandering into crowded places with the intent of murdering as many innocent people as they can...
 

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: shadow9d9
There is a HUGE difference between these kids and the muslim terrorists...

Yes, the continent they live on and the color of their skin. Short of that, no difference in what they are being brainwashed into believing.

Ill await the next swath of Chritian terrorist bombings killing thousands of people a year.

Until then, your comparison is invalid, try again.



OK, so we have to WAIT until they start killing before we can acknowledge the problem and do something about it.

By executing all nonatheists to end religious violence or maybe banning all organized religion?
 

spunkz

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A woman brings out a cardboard replica of President Bush and invites the children to gather around and touch it as she leads a prayer for him and his political agenda.

yep, sounds just like they're actually worshipping Bush. or maybe it's a prayer. wait, which interpretation would sell newspapers and lead to ignorant AT posts? i know!