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Bull.. Think about this - they get paid $2 an hour and the rest of their income is tip. I've worked jobs for $38 / hour and have had bad days - did I expect my boss to say "eh.. Your service sucked this hour so you're not going to get paid." When I get bad service I give 10%, just because THAT'S ALL THEY GET PAID and people are allowed to have bad hours or even days. If I return to a spot and the waiter continually sucks, I have no problem requesting another server.
 
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Bull.. Think about this - they get paid $2 an hour and the rest of their income is tip. I've worked jobs for $38 / hour and have had bad days - did I expect my boss to say "eh.. Your service sucked this hour so you're not going to get paid." When I get bad service I give 10%, just because THAT'S ALL THEY GET PAID and people are allowed to have bad hours or even days. If I return to a spot and the waiter continually sucks, I have no problem requesting another server.
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The classic response to this is very simple: No one is forcing them to work that job. Their tips will be based on performance. If they don't perform well, they don't get tipped well. I can't fathom why people have a hard time understanding that.
 
In this situation, I would still tip a very small % but make it obvious her service wasn't appreciated.
 
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
I tipped a guy walking along the sidewalk as he didn't throw himself under my car.
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If I saw you in the street and didn't threaten you with a gun, would you tip me?
 
Originally posted by: Roguestar
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
I tipped a guy walking along the sidewalk as he didn't throw himself under my car.
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If I saw you in the street and didn't threaten you with a gun, would you tip me?
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If you made a good job of it, yeah. Don't expect a tip if you try any of that shoddy aggression though. Proper 'crap-your-pants' intimidation will get you a tip.
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Bull.. Think about this - they get paid $2 an hour and the rest of their income is tip. I've worked jobs for $38 / hour and have had bad days - did I expect my boss to say "eh.. Your service sucked this hour so you're not going to get paid." When I get bad service I give 10%, just because THAT'S ALL THEY GET PAID and people are allowed to have bad hours or even days. If I return to a spot and the waiter continually sucks, I have no problem requesting another server.
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The classic response to this is very simple: No one is forcing them to work that job. Their tips will be based on performance. If they don't perform well, they don't get tipped well. I can't fathom why people have a hard time understanding that.
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QFT

If you are so bad at being a server that you can't even make 5 bucks an hour (in tips) on a bad day then you need to find a new job. Possibly something you are good at. I have never worked as a server, but from talking to friends of mine who have they would easily make 15 dollars per hour in tips when the place was mostly empty and as high as 50 per hour when the place was packed. Servers aren't hurting for cash and if you tip poor service you are not doing the server any favors.

However, pizza delivery (A job I have done) should have a 1 dollar minimum tip to cover gas even if the service is bad (read late, which most of the time isn't the drivers fault anyway). After all the guy shouldn't leave your house with less money than he started with regardless of how late he is.
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Bull.. Think about this - they get paid $2 an hour and the rest of their income is tip. I've worked jobs for $38 / hour and have had bad days - did I expect my boss to say "eh.. Your service sucked this hour so you're not going to get paid." When I get bad service I give 10%, just because THAT'S ALL THEY GET PAID and people are allowed to have bad hours or even days. If I return to a spot and the waiter continually sucks, I have no problem requesting another server.
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The classic response to this is very simple: No one is forcing them to work that job. Their tips will be based on performance. If they don't perform well, they don't get tipped well. I can't fathom why people have a hard time understanding that.
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It's simple - sometimes people have no other options. Education is a big factor, scheduling is another. I know students who simply can't work 9 to 5s and waiting is really the only thing that works for them.
 
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Bull.. Think about this - they get paid $2 an hour and the rest of their income is tip. I've worked jobs for $38 / hour and have had bad days - did I expect my boss to say "eh.. Your service sucked this hour so you're not going to get paid." When I get bad service I give 10%, just because THAT'S ALL THEY GET PAID and people are allowed to have bad hours or even days. If I return to a spot and the waiter continually sucks, I have no problem requesting another server.
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What about the headhunter who gets paid on 100% commission? Should his boss feel bad for him if he's having a bad week and didn't sign any clients; giving him half of his average commission because THAT'S ALL HE GETS PAID? Apply this to any commission based job.

You should get paid according to performance, and you should be tipped according to service. That's it.
 
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Bull.. Think about this - they get paid $2 an hour and the rest of their income is tip. I've worked jobs for $38 / hour and have had bad days - did I expect my boss to say "eh.. Your service sucked this hour so you're not going to get paid." When I get bad service I give 10%, just because THAT'S ALL THEY GET PAID and people are allowed to have bad hours or even days. If I return to a spot and the waiter continually sucks, I have no problem requesting another server.
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The classic response to this is very simple: No one is forcing them to work that job. Their tips will be based on performance. If they don't perform well, they don't get tipped well. I can't fathom why people have a hard time understanding that.
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It's simple - sometimes people have no other options. Education is a big factor, scheduling is another. I know students who simply can't work 9 to 5s and waiting is really the only thing that works for them.
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What a load of bullsh1t. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Bull.. Think about this - they get paid $2 an hour and the rest of their income is tip. I've worked jobs for $38 / hour and have had bad days - did I expect my boss to say "eh.. Your service sucked this hour so you're not going to get paid." When I get bad service I give 10%, just because THAT'S ALL THEY GET PAID and people are allowed to have bad hours or even days. If I return to a spot and the waiter continually sucks, I have no problem requesting another server.
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The classic response to this is very simple: No one is forcing them to work that job. Their tips will be based on performance. If they don't perform well, they don't get tipped well. I can't fathom why people have a hard time understanding that.
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It's simple - sometimes people have no other options. Education is a big factor, scheduling is another. I know students who simply can't work 9 to 5s and waiting is really the only thing that works for them.
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There are always options, reality is that most students are too lazy to pull it off. I did the full time student + work thing, and I never waited a single table. But that is besides the point, a "straw man" argument if you will.

The point is that waiting tables is a performance based profession. If you don't perform well then you don't get tipped well, it's that simple, there is nothing to discuss beyond that. You can bring in all the working student, working mom, poor me/them stories you want, it still doesn't change the fact that tips are based on performance.

I'm not paying them to have a bad day and take it out on me. I'm paying them to come to work and do their job to the best of their ability and leave their home life where it belongs, at home.
 
I do. But i wouldn't have tipped in that situation... nor would i have simply left without tipping. I would have at least told her why or written it on a napkin. She just thinks you're a cheapass, rather than the fact that she's incompetent.

And you're luck you got your cellphone back! (i would have tipped for that... and told her why i didn't tip earlier)
 
In that situation, I'd tip at most 10%.

I usually tip around 20%, sometimes a little more if it's at a bar I frequent. Good tips = free drinks 😀
 
Originally posted by: Canai
I usually tip around 20%, sometimes a little more if it's at a bar I frequent. Good tips = free drinks 😀
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Yep, i tip really well at places i frequent often. I get MUCH better treatment. I even tipped at Subways. I remember one time giving this dude all the change from a $6.50 sub from a $10, and he was surprised... next time i went back, he gave me a sub for free!

Personally for me, tipping is something i actually enjoy. I take it into consideration when i go to eat, that tipping will be part of the total expense.
 
I tip usually 10-15 %. Sometimes I leave them a crappy tip of 1 dollar or on a few occassions I left without giving a single tip. One time I dident tip as I recall was because I ordered chicken wings, they came with the wrong sauce and seemed a bit stale. They took the wings back and bought back (which I think were the same wings) wings that looked washed out with another sauce and were stale. I told the lady that these wings dont look too safe and I want my money back, and she gave me mad attitude saying I was crazy, when I eat wings at this place on a regular basis and usually they are amazing. I got really pissed off and dident pay for the wings at all and dident leave a tip, just paid for the beer and drinks, and left.
 
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Why not just pay them a decent wage like they do in Oz/NZ/Europe?
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Then the vast majority of lower-middle class families would not be able to afford to eat out anymore...hmm, maybe that would be a good thing.
 
Chr1st....how often does this come up? If you really think about it I think it's safe to say 50% of the threads on ATOT are reposts.
 
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Why not just pay them a decent wage like they do in Oz/NZ/Europe?
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In Asia as well.

In fact, i think NA is really the only place where tipping is 'mandatory'.
 
Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Bull.. Think about this - they get paid $2 an hour and the rest of their income is tip. I've worked jobs for $38 / hour and have had bad days - did I expect my boss to say "eh.. Your service sucked this hour so you're not going to get paid." When I get bad service I give 10%, just because THAT'S ALL THEY GET PAID and people are allowed to have bad hours or even days. If I return to a spot and the waiter continually sucks, I have no problem requesting another server.
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$38/hour is nothing to brag about.

ESPECIALLY in NYC, where you are supposedly from.
 
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