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Do you think Unions are partly responsible for this economic disaster?

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
What is it that you do for a living?
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That's irrelevant to this discussion, and no I don't belong to any unions. And I never said Unions are wholly responsible for this mess, but partly. Now how big of a part that is, it's still being discussed.
 
Originally posted by: ironwing
Originally posted by: MetalMat
Look how good the Soviet Union worked out, everyone was rich beyond their wildest dreams.
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You do know that independent unions were illegal in the Soviet Union, don't you?

Edit: You also know that it was a labor union that led Poland out of communism?
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Yes because independent unions would not be what the government wanted, im just making a dumb comparrison. What Im saying is that unions are a bad idea for the most part nowadays and is a big reason to why we have to keep bailing out American auto manufacturers.
 
Yes - Unions are partly to blame.

The unions told their members to vote democrat. Democrats got elected. The democrats sent our banking system down the river. Our economy followed.

QED.
 
No.

I think people buying houses they can't afford and others being willing to finance them are responsible for this economic disaster.

As for the American auto industry, they are victims of the fallout from the above, combined with high gas prices making their models unattractive. They made bets with their product lines by focusing on expensive cars that suck up gas, and they bet wrong. Now they are paying the price. Unions are a drop in the bucket when you have six months of inventory and you can't even sell your pickups at 50% off.
 
Originally posted by: MetalMat
Originally posted by: ironwing
Originally posted by: MetalMat
Look how good the Soviet Union worked out, everyone was rich beyond their wildest dreams.
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You do know that independent unions were illegal in the Soviet Union, don't you?

Edit: You also know that it was a labor union that led Poland out of communism?
Click to expand...

Yes because independent unions would not be what the government wanted, im just making a dumb comparrison. What Im saying is that unions are a bad idea for the most part nowadays and is a big reason to why we have to keep bailing out American auto manufacturers.
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I wouldn't want to be at the mercy of Construction Companies being a non Union member and I wouldn't want to buy a house built by scabs.

 
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Yes - Unions are partly to blame.

The unions told their members to vote democrat. Democrats got elected. The democrats sent our banking system down the river. Our economy followed.

QED.
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Unions make up for 20-25% of the workforce in America...if that
 
Originally posted by: dartworth
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Yes - Unions are partly to blame.

The unions told their members to vote democrat. Democrats got elected. The democrats sent our banking system down the river. Our economy followed.

QED.
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Unions make up for 20-25% of the workforce in America...if that
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More like 12.1%.
 
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Yes - Unions are partly to blame.

The unions told their members to vote democrat. Democrats got elected. The democrats sent our banking system down the river. Our economy followed.

QED.
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lol

The idiocy is strong in this thread.
 
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Yes - Unions are partly to blame.

The unions told their members to vote democrat. Democrats got elected. The democrats sent our banking system down the river. Our economy followed.

QED.
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The last three stock market crashes have all happened under the watch of Republican presidents. The two worst ones both came at the very end of eight straight years of Republican presidents.
 
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: dartworth
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Yes - Unions are partly to blame.

The unions told their members to vote democrat. Democrats got elected. The democrats sent our banking system down the river. Our economy followed.

QED.
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Unions make up for 20-25% of the workforce in America...if that
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More like 12.1%.
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I'm not sure if it is that low...either way thanks 🙂

 
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Yes - Unions are partly to blame.

The unions told their members to vote democrat. Democrats got elected. The democrats sent our banking system down the river. Our economy followed.

QED.
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lol

The idiocy is strong in this thread.
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lol...I think he just got done listening to Rush...
 
Originally posted by: dartworth
Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
Originally posted by: dartworth
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Yes - Unions are partly to blame.

The unions told their members to vote democrat. Democrats got elected. The democrats sent our banking system down the river. Our economy followed.

QED.
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Unions make up for 20-25% of the workforce in America...if that
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More like 12.1%.
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I'm not sure if it is that low...either way thanks 🙂
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Originally posted by: CPA
You've seen nothing yet. Wait until the unions get their open ballot voting passed.
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Yep. That will be a huge mistake. The strong arm tactics used now are not bad enough, let's give them more power.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: MetalMat
Originally posted by: ironwing
Originally posted by: MetalMat
Look how good the Soviet Union worked out, everyone was rich beyond their wildest dreams.
Click to expand...

You do know that independent unions were illegal in the Soviet Union, don't you?

Edit: You also know that it was a labor union that led Poland out of communism?
Click to expand...

Yes because independent unions would not be what the government wanted, im just making a dumb comparrison. What Im saying is that unions are a bad idea for the most part nowadays and is a big reason to why we have to keep bailing out American auto manufacturers.
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I wouldn't want to be at the mercy of Construction Companies being a non Union member and I wouldn't want to buy a house built by scabs.
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lol, typical union mindset... "scabs" , victim mindset, and perceived inferior work. All hallmarks of union group think. In reality a house is built by many different "skilled"(if you can call them that anymore) trades so it really only matters who the "builder" is and their reputation - not if they hire union or not.
 
Originally posted by: SSSnail
So, what part of "PARTLY" didn't some of you get?
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Originally posted by: SSSnail
So, what part of "PARTLY" didn't some of you get?
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They're not a factor, you idiot. Unions didn't create mortgage backed securities, force lenders to offer predatory mortgages, or convince idiots to buy houses they couldn't afford.
 
Originally posted by: ironwing
Unions created the middle class, fighting employers tooth and nail every step of the way.
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the middle class, historically, is shopkeepers and accountants and the like. none of which were unionized.
 
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: SSSnail
So, what part of "PARTLY" didn't some of you get?
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They're not a factor, you idiot. Unions didn't create mortgage backed securities, force lenders to offer predatory mortgages, or convince idiots to buy houses they couldn't afford.
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Oh great, here comes the name calling.

But, nevermind that GM (as an example) has been operating at a loss for YEARS with billions in negative incomes. Nevermind that GM is about to go under, nevermind that it has asked for bailout before and yet to do it again. Nevermind that if it goes under the economy will be royally fucked. Yes, bad cars and decisions they have made, and among those decisions including giving in to numerous Union demands.

Yeah, go ahead and call me an idiot.

Edit: And no one in here is refuting that the other idiots in other sectors are mainly responsible for the mess.
 
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