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Do you think that people will continue to accept the way society is run?

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Ornery

Lifer
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Speaking of being sick, that makes me want to hurl!

It's only because of the pursuit of the almighty dollar that medicine is where its at today, not Mother Teresa and her ilk!
 

Hector13

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
this same "greed" is the reason that our health care system can cure damn near anything.
Haha, cure anything? I hope you never become truly sick! Any doctor who pretends that we're close to mastering human health would be a bad doctor, no doubt!

perhaps "treat" is a better word; in either case, the point is the same.
 

djheater

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Originally posted by: Stefan

Do you think that people will continue to accept the way society is run?

"you must be the change you wish to see in the world"

--M. Ghandi
 

gotsmack

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go start your own company that does these "good and moral" things. If it is successful you'll drive everyone else who does not follow your example out of business.



or maybe you'll go bust in the first year.
 

DaveSimmons

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Wal-mart is about the most inhumane possible company, that treats its employees as disposable meat-machines while forcing its suppliers to treat their employees as slaves.

Yet most of the people reading this have shopped there, and its best customers are the "oppressed" masses.

These same masses have chosen time after time that they will pay $1.99 for a slave-labor t-shirt instead of $2 for an American-made one.

People drive "mom & pop's friendly clothing hut" out of business because they refuse to pay one penny more than they have to, then whine about the poor and uncaring service at Wal-mart.

Moral: people get the corporations they deserve and earn, same as with government.
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: gotsmack
go start your own company that does these "good and moral" things. If it is successful you'll drive everyone else who does not follow your example out of business.



or maybe you'll go bust in the first year.


most likely go bust in the first year
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Cubas only 90 miles from the US. Go there and youll be happy in "the workers paradise":sun:
 

Wuffsunie

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Traditional human government consists of thieves and murderers. By adopting the electoral process, we have weeded out the murderers.
This is actually about as good as it gets.

The theater example is why I sneak in food into them. When food is comparable to admission price which is pretty much the same as two new movie rentals around town, I just can't pay that. I know it's not the theater's fault, but they should really pass the buck back and overhaul the system so that the studios no longer rape them like that.

How did that come about anyway? Was it always like that?

If not, it reminds me of the publishing industry. There's one a$$hole back in the 70s I think who came up with the genius idea of buying back unsold books from the retailers I believe, and that in turn has lend to prices going up 10X-11X since then, with no end in sight. One dumb move snowballed through that whole industry and they've been unable to dig themselves out from under it ever since.

Oh, for those who say that competition keeps businesses in check... fat chance. Maybe in the past, but not now. Now, most places adopt an almost "industry standard" pricing scheme, offering only minimal differences in prices between competing companies.

Medicine and the almighty dollar... all that's given us is a handful of erectile disfunction medications in the last decade, and no new antibiotics since before I was born. Yes, there have been some incredible advances, that's for sure. But in the last 15 years or so there's been way too much concentrated on cosmetic sh!t.

Hee, the perfect image this conjures up is from Falling Down, where Michael Douglas is looking up at the outside of the mansion and asks "Cosmetic surgery bought all this?" Hell, that movie is 100% perfect for this thread.

Back to topic, though; money is all the vast majority of people care about. Try nosing through some of the Bush vs Kerry threads, it's amazing how many say they'll vote Bush on the sole account of his tax breaks for them.
 
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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Unless I'm just ignorant of the past,
You are. The working class and the poor live significantly better than at any other time in history, with access to good clothing, cheap food, free education, affordable transport and communication, and tremendously better health care for even the uninsured.

Of course my taxes help pay for all of this, but nothing's perfect.

I agree with you except for one thing -- the poor back in the day didnt really "expect" better. The poor today want to grow up and either become doctors or rap stars. When, around the age of 20, they realize the will always be poor, they become very unhappy people.

That, at least as far as I see it is, is what is wrong with the expectations and the realities of the modern world.

Anyone agree?
 

hans007

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Feb 1, 2000
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Originally posted by: Stefan
The way society works now is that individual people are not important. What is important is to rape people of everything they have to increase profit. Banks, universitys, retail, etc all strive to make money without care of how they affect people.

Unless I'm just ignorant of the past, this trend seems to be getting worse as time passes. The people who run these corporations don't care as long as something isn't "legally wrong". They don't question if what they are doing is something that hurts everyone but themselves, and they don't really care because they're still not doing anything "legally wrong". Hell, sometimes they don't even care about the laws. They think they're not doing anything wrong as long as they don't get caught.

Our society sticks. I hope this civilation falls apart (or peacefully fixes itself).

So do you think people will continue to accept the way things are done? Or will people stand up and say "No more will it work like this"?

yeah yeah you whining quasi socialist.


you know why people keep working. its because everyone believes they can make it to the top of the totem pole. and it can happen in america. just takes, luck, work and skill. probably in that order of importance too.
 

paulandreas

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Originally posted by: Stefan
The way society works now is that individual people are not important. What is important is to rape people of everything they have to increase profit. Banks, universitys, retail, etc all strive to make money without care of how they affect people.

Unless I'm just ignorant of the past, this trend seems to be getting worse as time passes. The people who run these corporations don't care as long as something isn't "legally wrong". They don't question if what they are doing is something that hurts everyone but themselves, and they don't really care because they're still not doing anything "legally wrong". Hell, sometimes they don't even care about the laws. They think they're not doing anything wrong as long as they don't get caught.

Our society sticks. I hope this civilation falls apart (or peacefully fixes itself).

So do you think people will continue to accept the way things are done? Or will people stand up and say "No more will it work like this"?

if you are tired of being raped, become the rapist. ;) *metaphorically speaking* *not advocating illegality*
 

CPA

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Nov 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Wal-mart is about the most inhumane possible company, that treats its employees as disposable meat-machines while forcing its suppliers to treat their employees as slaves.

Yet most of the people reading this have shopped there, and its best customers are the "oppressed" masses.

These same masses have chosen time after time that they will pay $1.99 for a slave-labor t-shirt instead of $2 for an American-made one.

People drive "mom & pop's friendly clothing hut" out of business because they refuse to pay one penny more than they have to, then whine about the poor and uncaring service at Wal-mart.

Moral: people get the corporations they deserve and earn, same as with government.

"mom & pop's friendly clothing hut"? Is that the same small-store mom & pop shop that pays minimum wage and has few, if any, employees, has absolutely no middle or upper management (career-building), pays little to no tax because a lot of business is done "under the table", has no benefits whatsoever (including 401k and stock ownership) and doesn't have to obey many employment and labor laws because they are so small?

Sorry, but I just don't buy the poor ol' mom & pop shop getting run out of business line.
 

GasX

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Feb 8, 2001
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The world, in particular this country, is better not than it was at anytime in history.


You have more rights
access to healthcare
higher standard of living than ever (know any midievel peasants who had cell phones and cable?)
more class mobility
laws to protect you
A long lifespan
etc...
 

CPA

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Nov 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mwilding
The world, in particular this country, is better not than it was at anytime in history.


You have more rights
access to healthcare
higher standard of living than ever (know any midievel peasants who had cell phones and cable?)
more class mobility
laws to protect you
A long lifespan
etc...

everything is right on, except for the first item. We have far fewer rights than what we had at the beginning of this country, unless you are specifically categorizing our constitutional rights, which in that case I would agree only because it has been amended so. But that notwithstanding, many "rights" and privaleges have been taken away over the years due to stupidity and nannyism.