Do you think that people will continue to accept the way society is run?

[BigToque]

Here's another thing... Movie theatres.

Not only do theatres charge insane amounts for the food, but what is worse is their "combo's". Sure they are cheaper than buying the individual items, but they are totally useless.

If you look at the combo's, so find:

Combo #1: Small popcorn, small drink - $10 (too small for most people - in terms of food)
Combo #2: Large popcorn, large drink and a small bag of candy - $20 (WAY TO MUCH for a single person but not bad for a couple. The problem? You have to buy another drink - Add $5)

Why do this? Because most people come in 2's and this is their way to get people to buy an extra drink.

People get gouged with unfair prices, but the items are set up so that you have to spend even more to get a decent deal.

edit added in:

I understand that it is not like my other examples. I just think that it's sad that they run the business to maxmize their profit without questioning if their customers are satisfied with their service.

There's nothing "wrong" with it though.

 

[CrazyDe1]

Originally posted by: Stefan
Here's another thing... Movie theatres.

Not only do theatres charge insane amounts for the food, but what is worse is their "combo's". Sure they are cheaper than buying the individual items, but they are totally useless.

If you look at the combo's, so find:

Combo #1: Small popcorn, small drink - $10 (too small for most people - in terms of food)
Combo #2: Large popcorn, large drink and a small bag of candy - $20 (WAY TO MUCH for a single person but not bad for a couple. The problem? You have to buy another drink - Add $5)

Why do this? Because most people come in 2's and this is their way to get people to buy an extra drink.

People get gouged with unfair prices, but the items are set up so that you have to spend even more to get a decent deal.

If you're not happy with it you can go somewhere else or watch a movie at home....

 

[Hector13]

Originally posted by: Stefan
Here's another thing... Movie theatres.

Not only do theatres charge insane amounts for the food, but what is worse is their "combo's". Sure they are cheaper than buying the individual items, but they are totally useless.

If you look at the combo's, so find:

Combo #1: Small popcorn, small drink - $10 (too small for most people - in terms of food)
Combo #2: Large popcorn, large drink and a small bag of candy - $20 (WAY TO MUCH for a single person but not bad for a couple. The problem? You have to buy another drink - Add $5)

Why do this? Because most people come in 2's and this is their way to get people to buy an extra drink.

People get gouged with unfair prices, but the items are set up so that you have to spend even more to get a decent deal.

I agree with your qualm with companies deceiving (or straight-up lying to) people, but I think your movie theatre example is a bad one. The theatre is doing nothing to deceive you and is simply trying to maximize their profit (in a legal, "moral" way). They are under no moral obligation to give you a good price on their food. They will charge a price that people are willing to pay. If you think the price is too high, don't but their goods -- problem solved.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: Stefan
Here's another thing... Movie theatres.

Not only do theatres charge insane amounts for the food, ....

Did you know that no theater could stay in business without charging such prices for food? Almost all of the ticket price goes to the movie studio not the theater. Raising ticket prices wouldn't help much since the studio takes a percentage not a fixed amount.

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: Hector13

Originally posted by: Stefan
Here's another thing... Movie theatres.

Not only do theatres charge insane amounts for the food, but what is worse is their "combo's". Sure they are cheaper than buying the individual items, but they are totally useless.

If you look at the combo's, so find:

Combo #1: Small popcorn, small drink - $10 (too small for most people - in terms of food)
Combo #2: Large popcorn, large drink and a small bag of candy - $20 (WAY TO MUCH for a single person but not bad for a couple. The problem? You have to buy another drink - Add $5)

Why do this? Because most people come in 2's and this is their way to get people to buy an extra drink.

People get gouged with unfair prices, but the items are set up so that you have to spend even more to get a decent deal.

I agree with your qualm with companies deceiving (or straight-up lying to) people, but I think your movie theatre example is a bad one. The theatre is doing nothing to deceive you and is simply trying to maximize their profit (in a legal, "moral" way). They are under no moral obligation to give you a good price on their food. They will charge a price that people are willing to pay. If you think the price is too high, don't but their goods -- problem solved.

Well, I understand that it is not like my other examples. I just think that it's sad that they run the business to maxmize their profit without questioning if their customers are satisfied with their service.

There's nothing "wrong" with it though.

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: Stefan
Here's another thing... Movie theatres.

Not only do theatres charge insane amounts for the food, ....

Did you know that no theater could stay in business without charging such prices for food? Almost all of the ticket price goes to the movie studio not the theater. Raising ticket prices wouldn't help much since the studio takes a percentage not a fixed amount.

I used to work at a movie theatre, so I know all about the prices and how things work.

 

[BigToque]

Phone comany taking advantage of people:

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[CrazyDe1]

Originally posted by: Stefan

Originally posted by: Hector13

Originally posted by: Stefan
Here's another thing... Movie theatres.

Not only do theatres charge insane amounts for the food, but what is worse is their "combo's". Sure they are cheaper than buying the individual items, but they are totally useless.

If you look at the combo's, so find:

Combo #1: Small popcorn, small drink - $10 (too small for most people - in terms of food)
Combo #2: Large popcorn, large drink and a small bag of candy - $20 (WAY TO MUCH for a single person but not bad for a couple. The problem? You have to buy another drink - Add $5)

Why do this? Because most people come in 2's and this is their way to get people to buy an extra drink.

People get gouged with unfair prices, but the items are set up so that you have to spend even more to get a decent deal.

I agree with your qualm with companies deceiving (or straight-up lying to) people, but I think your movie theatre example is a bad one. The theatre is doing nothing to deceive you and is simply trying to maximize their profit (in a legal, "moral" way). They are under no moral obligation to give you a good price on their food. They will charge a price that people are willing to pay. If you think the price is too high, don't but their goods -- problem solved.

Well, I understand that it is not like my other examples. I just think that it's sad that they run the business to maxmize their profit without questioning if their customers are satisfied with their service.

There's nothing "wrong" with it though.

Why should they care if their customers are satisfied? You walk the fine line between keeping the majority of customers happy enough and maximizing profits.

Face it, if you want to go into business and be completely customer friendly you'll be out of business real fast.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: Stefan

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: Stefan
Here's another thing... Movie theatres.

Not only do theatres charge insane amounts for the food, ....

Did you know that no theater could stay in business without charging such prices for food? Almost all of the ticket price goes to the movie studio not the theater. Raising ticket prices wouldn't help much since the studio takes a percentage not a fixed amount.

I used to work at a movie theatre, so I know all about the prices and how things work.

Then why are you using it as an example of "modern evil" when you know it's the only way the theater can keep its doors open?

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: CrazyDe1

Originally posted by: Stefan

Originally posted by: Hector13

Originally posted by: Stefan
Here's another thing... Movie theatres.

Not only do theatres charge insane amounts for the food, but what is worse is their "combo's". Sure they are cheaper than buying the individual items, but they are totally useless.

If you look at the combo's, so find:

Combo #1: Small popcorn, small drink - $10 (too small for most people - in terms of food)
Combo #2: Large popcorn, large drink and a small bag of candy - $20 (WAY TO MUCH for a single person but not bad for a couple. The problem? You have to buy another drink - Add $5)

Why do this? Because most people come in 2's and this is their way to get people to buy an extra drink.

People get gouged with unfair prices, but the items are set up so that you have to spend even more to get a decent deal.

I agree with your qualm with companies deceiving (or straight-up lying to) people, but I think your movie theatre example is a bad one. The theatre is doing nothing to deceive you and is simply trying to maximize their profit (in a legal, "moral" way). They are under no moral obligation to give you a good price on their food. They will charge a price that people are willing to pay. If you think the price is too high, don't but their goods -- problem solved.

Well, I understand that it is not like my other examples. I just think that it's sad that they run the business to maxmize their profit without questioning if their customers are satisfied with their service.

There's nothing "wrong" with it though.

Why should they care if their customers are satisfied? You walk the fine line between keeping the majority of customers happy enough and maximizing profits.

Face it, if you want to go into business and be completely customer friendly you'll be out of business real fast.

If theatres cut their prices of food in half they would still be making billions of dollars. (Well at least famous players - they are the one I'm specifially refering to. I used to work in one in Winnipeg. I know all about their finances)

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: Stefan

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons

Originally posted by: Stefan
Here's another thing... Movie theatres.

Not only do theatres charge insane amounts for the food, ....

Did you know that no theater could stay in business without charging such prices for food? Almost all of the ticket price goes to the movie studio not the theater. Raising ticket prices wouldn't help much since the studio takes a percentage not a fixed amount.

I used to work at a movie theatre, so I know all about the prices and how things work.

Then why are you using it as an example of "modern evil" when you know it's the only way the theater can keep its doors open?

From my last post:

If theatres cut their prices of food in half they would still be making billions of dollars. (Well at least famous players - they are the one I'm specifially refering to. I used to work in one in Winnipeg. I know all about their finances)

 

[Pliablemoose]

Those evil corporations are largely owned by us, & we demand a profit above all else. does the average investor give a crap about the rainforest/recycling/energy efficeincy/global warming/ad infinitum...?

Look into the mirror young Stefan, things are not what they seem.

Would you like the red pill or the blue pill?

 

[ed21x]

if a company offers you a deal that you are dissatisfied with, you have the option of not taking their offer. This is where competition keeps everything in check. That's the beauty of capitalism. If it really annoys you, I suggest you make your way to any other Asian country and stay there for a good couple months. Then come back, and be satisfied with how good you have it here

 

[BigToque]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Those evil corporations are largely owned by us, & we demand a profit above all else. does the average investor give a crap about the rainforest/recycling/energy efficeincy/global warming/ad infinitum...?

Look into the mirror young Stefan, things are not what they seem.

Would you like the red pill or the blue pill?

"Ignorance is bliss" j/k

People need to stop being so greedy and so concerned about themselves.

note: I have a big problem with people who are concerned about what everyone else is doing also - unless it directly effects them. In which case, it is your right to complain.

This world could be such a nice place....

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Those evil corporations are largely owned by us, & we demand a profit above all else. does the average investor give a crap about the rainforest/recycling/energy efficeincy/global warming/ad infinitum...?

Look into the mirror young Stefan, things are not what they seem.

Would you like the red pill or the blue pill?

Owned by us??? What are you smoking??? I would hardly call the elitist few at the top of the Rich Boy Club chain "owned by us".

That would be like saying the Enron folks were just like you and I. I don't think so.

Put the pipe down.

 

[rh71]

Be Well.

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Those evil corporations are largely owned by us, & we demand a profit above all else. does the average investor give a crap about the rainforest/recycling/energy efficeincy/global warming/ad infinitum...?

Look into the mirror young Stefan, things are not what they seem.

Would you like the red pill or the blue pill?

Owned by us??? What are you smoking??? I would hardly call the elitist few at the top of the Rich Boy Club chain "owned by us".

That would be like saying the Enron folks were just like you and I. I don't think so.

Put the pipe down.

This topic has now gone from dumb to dumber! Don't tell me you're also stupid enough to be without a 401K or IRA? Where do you suppose the profit comes from for those accounts?

 

[CFster]

Stefan, it sounds like you need to convert to Buddhism. It shuns the need for "things" - hence greed. Go live in a monastary.

 

[AmbitV]

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Those evil corporations are largely owned by us, & we demand a profit above all else. does the average investor give a crap about the rainforest/recycling/energy efficeincy/global warming/ad infinitum...?

Look into the mirror young Stefan, things are not what they seem.

Would you like the red pill or the blue pill?

Owned by us??? What are you smoking??? I would hardly call the elitist few at the top of the Rich Boy Club chain "owned by us".

That would be like saying the Enron folks were just like you and I. I don't think so.

Put the pipe down.

This topic has now gone from dumb to dumber! Don't tell me you're also stupid enough to be without a 401K or IRA? Where do you suppose the profit comes from for those accounts?

Sorry but owning .001% of a corporation isn't "owned by us". Sure if you pool together all those accounts you might have something substantial, but on an individual basis the Rich Boy Club owns far more per capita...

 

[RobCur]

the banks and the government are alot smarter then you think. they know that if you had too much money, you would be lazy and not have to work before 65 and so, everytime someone has too much saving, they will find ways to make them lose it all lol. and alot of people do. *chuckle*
greedy people will work their ass off like get 3 jobs lol, to try to make as much as possible so they can retire early. but realize later that its just temporary extra money and will go poof when the bank sees that they have too much on their hands
my sister works at a bank too and she knows more about this then I do. don't hate the bank, just be aware that they are in control of your money. how much you have is how much you really earned through labor lol.
they will get really suspicious if suddently you desposited alot of cash from nowhere and the FBI will come into your home to do some investigation LOL.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: RobCur
the banks and the government are alot smarter then you think. they know that if you had too much money, you would be lazy and not have to work before 65 and so, everytime someone has too much saving, they will find ways to make them lose it all lol. and alot of people do. *chuckle*
greedy people will work their ass off like get 3 jobs lol, to try to make as much as possible so they can retire early. but realize later that its just temporary extra money and will go poof when the bank sees that they have too much on their hands
my sister works at a bank too and she knows more about this then I do. don't hate the bank, just be aware that they are in control of your money. how much you have is how much you really earned through labor lol.
they will get really suspicious if suddently you desposited alot of cash from nowhere and the FBI will come into your home to do some investigation LOL.

... Huh?

 

[Ornery]

"Sorry but owning .001% of a corporation isn't "owned by us". Sure if you pool together all those accounts you might have something substantial, but on an individual basis the Rich Boy Club owns far more per capita... "

SORRY, but IT DOES! We're dependent on these companys making a profit, or our retirement accounts won't be worth a damn. And I'm sorry, but if you don't like what they're selling, or the price they're asking, you don't have to buy it! Damn, that's all we needed was one more 'world owes me a living' whiner on this board. :roll:

 

[Hector13]

Originally posted by: Stefan

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Those evil corporations are largely owned by us, & we demand a profit above all else. does the average investor give a crap about the rainforest/recycling/energy efficeincy/global warming/ad infinitum...?

Look into the mirror young Stefan, things are not what they seem.

Would you like the red pill or the blue pill?

"Ignorance is bliss" j/k

People need to stop being so greedy and so concerned about themselves.

note: I have a big problem with people who are concerned about what everyone else is doing also - unless it directly effects them. In which case, it is your right to complain.

This world could be such a nice place....

this same "greed" is the reason that our health care system can cure damn near anything. It is the reason why you can go out and buy a nice shiney new P4 PC or a BMW sportscar.

Face it, like everything in life, there is a good side and bad side to our capitalist society. Nothing is perfect.

 

[FacelessNobody]

Capitalism is fantastic. It's one of humankind's best ideas with the potential to benefit everyone phenominally.

But the United States of America is not necessarily a capitalist country--it's a consumerist country. We live in a culture driven by consumption. I want this, you want that, and it's all instinctual. When we were cavemen (fine, cavepeople), it was in our best interest to consume as much as possible. Things that tasted sweet packed a sugary punch--a carbohydrate knockout you needed to stay alive just a little bit longer. You had to seem better than the other guy back then, too, so you'd be more likely to procreate. Why not? You didn't live much longer than thirty years.

We haven't changed at all. Our hedonistic ancestors have provided us with an environment (and market) that caters to our cave-brain. Add to it the fact that media perpetuates it like nothing else invented. For example, some car commercial might show a random guy (representing you) outside washing his Probe. The camera pans and BAM, that asshole neighbor (representing your asshole neighbor) pulls into his driveway with a brand new G35 Coupe. To make things worse, the attractive new airheaded neighbor gives him googly eyes as he throttles the engine. The water pressure dies and your hose goes limp in fear. "Shit! Mike'll be nose-deep in pussy with that new ride and I'll be stuck here waxing my Probe!" A commercial like this not only tells you that your car sucks and you should get one like Mike's, but it tells you that you need a house with a driveway. It also tells women to crack their pelvis spreading for the guy who owns a G35.

People will do whatever they can to get on top so they can live the way they want to. This is the reason we're not a truly capitalist society. When large companies figure out that it's in their best interest to cooperate and control the market, they will. They'll do things similarly and make you choose between their way or no way. You don't have a choice, so you cough up your money, and some CEO spends an extra hour in the 'massage parlor' while he neglects his self-absorbed bitch wife and satanic, fat-assed children. Companies want to profit off you, and they won't work hard to do it.

Society is interested in your money, not you, you're what stands between them and the cash. The system benefits only those on top and if you're not in the club, you can either whine or start to change things. Being unreasonable and adapting the world to yourself sounds impossible, but that's because it's what the system doesn't want, though strangely, progress depends on it. How do you want something done? Do it that way and if you can't, do as much as you can. It'll sure make you feel a lot better about yourself.

 

[StageLeft]

I don't know if society is degrading itself, but popular culture certainly gives the impression that it is. All of the reality shows and entertainment and marketing and everything else all imply that all we should care about is wealth and money and profit and material goods. It doesn't lead to happiness, but unfortunately much of the population is too stupid to realize what does lead to happiness, so like fools they follow what they're told will make them happy. This plight leads to poor health, poor interpersonal relationships, etc.

this same "greed" is the reason that our health care system can cure damn near anything.

Haha, cure anything? I hope you never become truly sick! Any doctor who pretends that we're close to mastering human health would be a bad doctor, no doubt!

Frankly, Stefan, it's refreshing to see that some people apparently still give a crap instead of me, me, me, screw everybody else, I want money, car, etc.