Question Do you think GPU stock/prices will get back to normal before end of the year?

[Coyle]

I'm looking for a GPU to finish my build but the deal with GPUs right now reminds me of when I was trying to get a PSU, but maybe worse. Wondering if stock and prices will be getting back to normal before end of this year?

 

[aigomorla]

What do they even mine on GPUs anymore?

But who knows on availability. Hopefully by summer GPUs are available for more than a few seconds and at near MSRP.

im hearing its ETH or LTC.
And then they take the ETH/LTC and convert to BTC as it has a better ROI that way.


Everyone-
Keep the political stuff OUT of this thread please.
This is not where it belongs.
P&N is =====> way.
Do not bring your socialistic values in the TECH thread.

I would really not want to ask another supermod to come in and give him garbage duty to clean up this thread.

 

[CP5670]

I don't think GPU mining is worth the time or effort anymore unless you can scale it to hundreds of cards (impossible with the current stock situation), but that won't stop people from trying. I can make way more money at work or investing at this point.

If you can't find a card, you can always play old or indie games. There are lots of amazing free mods for old games out there, some of which are more creative than any modern AAA title. If you're into competitive online games, then it's better to play at low settings anyway and the video card becomes less critical.

 

[gorobei]

gpu mining should end with eth 2.0 pos. eth is currently the only coin with a usage model and a future. the rest of the alt-coins are riding btc's tail and are hedges on FOMO.

the gpu farms that arent set up to sell time to cloud processing can only migrate to some alt-coin and hope enough miners settle on one to drive up the price to make it profitable.

 

[DeathReborn]

There's talk of those on one benefit (Universal Credit) in the UK getting a "stimulus" of £1,000 sometime around April-June, that's about the going rate for a 3070 (£830-£1,300) or a 6800/6800XT (£820-£1,040) right now at retail. I can see any stock (yea, like that'll ever happen) around then getting annihilated again at least in the UK.

Fairly neutral (not Sun, Mail etc) link...

Universal Credit claimants could get £1,000 bonus payment

It comes after Boris Johnson has called for the extra £20-per-week boost to be scrapped

www.cambridge-news.co.uk

I know the US is looking to boost their stimulus payments, this is I think going to keep the status quo on GPU stock going through into H2.

 

[undertaker101]

Snagged a sapphire 6800 pulse for 850 + tax..likely keeping this order for now. I suspect AMD card prices will stay inflated longer than Nvidia.

 

[Borealis7]

with the strong decline of the value of USD in january in my country, a RTX3080 is now 1,837.63$. so sad.

 

[undertaker101]

RTX 3080 Mining Rig in a BMW’s Trunk Meant ‘Just to Annoy Gamers’

Would a 'driver' update make it go faster?

www.tomshardware.com

What a db...nothing against miners though I am not a believer but this guy is asking for it.

 

[aleader]

I called Memory Express the other day to see what they had for GPU's coming in, and they actually had an MSI Gaming X 6800 in stock...for $1,019 CAD ($775 USD)! That card 'should' be $750 CAD at the $579 USD MSRP. Add $50 for the AIB 'tax', and then it's maybe $800 CAD. I've actually seen some comments saying that $1,000 is 'not bad' for a 6800. How quickly we become conditioned to these stupid prices...

He asked me if I wanted him to set it aside, and the greedy old man in me briefly considered what some twit would pay me for it on Ebay, but I declined. That's just too much to pay for that card. I have a 5700XT already, but I figure I could get another card and sell this one for 'better-than-new' price ATM with all the 'desperation' going on.

EDIT: I just checked Ebay and people are paying over $800 CAD for USED 5700XTs?! Maybe I should go get that card...

 

[undertaker101]

I called Memory Express the other day to see what they had for GPU's coming in, and they actually had an MSI Gaming X 6800 in stock...for $1,019 CAD ($775 USD)! That card 'should' be $750 CAD at the $579 USD MSRP. Add $50 for the AIB 'tax', and then it's maybe $800 CAD. I've actually seen some comments saying that $1,000 is 'not bad' for a 6800. How quickly we become conditioned to these stupid prices...

He asked me if I wanted him to set it aside, and the greedy old man in me briefly considered what some twit would pay me for it on Ebay, but I declined. That's just too much to pay for that card. I have a 5700XT already, but I figure I could get another card and sell this one for 'better-than-new' price ATM with all the 'desperation' going on.

EDIT: I just checked Ebay and people are paying over $800 CAD for USED 5700XTs?! Maybe I should go get that card...

Amazon is charging USD 850 for 6800s...and they insta sell, eBay prices are in 900 range...

 

[aleader]

Amazon is charging USD 850 for 6800s...and they insta sell, eBay prices are in 900 range...

Agreed, it's ridiculous what people are willing to pay to play games.

 

[MrTeal]

Agreed, it's ridiculous what people are willing to pay to play games.

I spent about that on an auger to sit in the cold and not catch fish, so...

 

[blckgrffn]

I spent about that on an auger to sit in the cold and not catch fish, so...

Which proves out that even at "ludicrous" levels, high end PC building is still a "cheap" hobby. It's not cars or boats, hunting, etc.

Also, considering pre 2000s PC pricing, truly useful computers are still really affordable.

 

[PingSpike]

Which proves out that even at "ludicrous" levels, high end PC building is still a "cheap" hobby. It's not cars or boats, hunting, etc.

Also, considering pre 2000s PC pricing, truly useful computers are still really affordable.

Yeah, even if I was a big GPU buyer like some here...its not like classic cars or boats or a lot of things. Even with the price increases it remains a fairly cheap hobby.

Funny part is pre 2000s PC hardware is going up in price as well. Retro hardware collection is taking off it seems.

 

[undertaker101]

Just GME stock and forget about GPU prices...

 

[aleader]

I spent about that on an auger to sit in the cold and not catch fish, so...

You must have bought a fancy ION battery powered auger for that price? They work great. My buddy has one (and he has the insulated Eskimo shack). I'd never buy a gas powered one after using that. The trick is to find someone that already has all that stuff! No need for leeches...I bring myself! We do *usually* catch fish though Heading out again on Friday...Hackett Lake, SK...

 

[aleader]

Yeah, even if I was a big GPU buyer like some here...its not like classic cars or boats or a lot of things. Even with the price increases it remains a fairly cheap hobby.

Funny part is pre 2000s PC hardware is going up in price as well. Retro hardware collection is taking off it seems.

It's not a cheap hobby if you play flight sims! According to my wife, $1 spent on games is too much. That's the thing, my EVGA 1070 cost me $288 USD brand new. Now the 'replacement' 3070 costs double that (yes, for double the performance). That's the issue I have. No such thing as a decent performing $300 GPU anymore, although the gains are getting kind of pointless for me at least at 1440p/75Hz. The 5700XT is more than enough for 99.9% of the games I play, and now allows me to play DCS World at high settings. I'm not sure what benefit I'd get from upgrading honestly.

 

[blckgrffn]

It's not a cheap hobby if you play flight sims! According to my wife, $1 spent on games is too much. That's the thing, my EVGA 1070 cost me $288 USD brand new. Now the 'replacement' 3070 costs double that (yes, for double the performance). That's the issue I have. No such thing as a decent performing $300 GPU anymore, although the gains are getting kind of pointless for me at least at 1440p/75Hz. The 5700XT is more than enough for 99.9% of the games I play, and now allows me to play DCS World at high settings. I'm not sure what benefit I'd get from upgrading honestly.

I hear that. I think gaming has a undeserved stigma. Case in point, I feel like it is something I feel a lot pressure (might be in my imagination) to push it into the fringe time and not miss family time to do it. But watching a football game on a Sunday? No issues with that.

Or spending hundreds of dollars (out of state licenses, gas, hotel, meals, etc. not even my own dog!) to go pheasant hunting in neighboring state, gets a pass. But big computer part purchases or going to see friends in person to play some LAN games is somehow something I should have grown out of

Ah well, generationally I think this will change a lot and the pandemic has actually changed some of this dynamic in my family as we work to escape without leaving our home nearly so much.

My other point still stands. I have five digit money into restoring *my dads* Chevelle because we did it "together" and he has... well, multiples of what I invested.

 

[aleader]

I hear that. I think gaming has a undeserved stigma. Case in point, I feel like it is something I feel a lot pressure (might be in my imagination) to push it into the fringe time and not miss family time to do it. But watching a football game on a Sunday? No issues with that.

Or spending hundreds of dollars (out of state licenses, gas, hotel, meals, etc. not even my own dog!) to go pheasant hunting in neighboring state, gets a pass. But big computer part purchases or going to see friends in person to play some LAN games is somehow something I should have grown out of

Ah well, generationally I think this will change a lot and the pandemic has actually changed some of this dynamic as we work to escape without leaving our home nearly so much.

My other point still stands. I have five digit money into restoring *my dads* Chevelle because we did it "together" and he has... well, multiples of what I invested.

Wow...were you married to my wife? She has no issues with buying a pontoon boat, hunting, fishing, skiing...etc, or her $140 haircuts, but if a video card or anything PC related comes through the door...I get the evil stare. Once you're married long enough though you start to push back...and, just don't care what she thinks. I am extremely cheap in all other areas of my life and love to add up what I've saved driving rusted, old vehicles, and riding my bike to work.

My ice-fish buddy just bought a brand new truck for $50,000...that's a lot of video cards. It will change generationally because kids don't have any interest in marriage these days. My boys have zero desire for a wife

And yes, my 1994 PC (pre-marriage) cost me almost $3,000 and was COMPLETELY obsolete in a year. I guess for the performance you get now, it really isn't that expensive.

 

[CP5670]

Yes, the cost of this stuff is trivial compared to many other hobbies people have. I buy whatever I like and the cost is just noise to be honest. I think desktop PCs and parts have gone from being appliances into more like luxury products. Most people don't have or need them anymore, and the people who do are really into them.

I would still be hesitant to pay 30% markups to scalpers and gouging retailers though. I like feeling that I got a good deal when I buy something. My $1600 3090 cost way more than any previous video card I got, but it almost looks like a good deal now. The prices are closer to $2000 now.

 

[Mopetar]

High-end PC components will last maybe five years if you're lucky. An ice auger if well maintained will last decades. If you're getting a new top of the line rig every couple of years, PC gaming can be just as expensive as other hobbies.

However, if you aren't catching fish a gaming PC would certainly give you something to do. You even get more benefit from a high-end rig because that 500W OC GPU just heats the ice house.

 

[aleader]

High-end PC components will last maybe five years if you're lucky. An ice auger if well maintained will last decades. If you're getting a new top of the line rig every couple of years, PC gaming can be just as expensive as other hobbies.

However, if you aren't catching fish a gaming PC would certainly give you something to do. You even get more benefit from a high-end rig because that 500W OC GPU just heats the ice house.

My PC parts last me a lot longer, but I'm not usually in a hurry to upgrade, unless I see the need (i.e. DCS World...GPU and VKB joystick). You need to bring a card table and some beverages when they aren't biting! I also like exploring on the snowmobile (another expensive hobby). Lots of lakes around here that I've never even been to. The PC-in-the-hut thing wouldn't work the way we fish...it's all portable.

 

[CP5670]

The video card is the only thing that makes sense to change frequently performance-wise. However, upgrading frequently can work out better if you sell all your old parts on ebay like I do, and think of it as renting the stuff for an undefined period of time.

I know people who buy $100k cars or $500k vacation homes (and barely use them), and compared to that PC hardware is very cheap. My other hobby is Lego and I spend about as much on that as PC stuff.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Yes, the cost of this stuff is trivial compared to many other hobbies people have.

Very much so. I'm on disability, and I can afford, maybe not the highest-end SKUs in a model family, but enough CPU and GPU for my needs. (Don't have any Ampere cards yet, and if Navi3X is any indication, I may never.) It helps that I'm a fairly-skilled "bargain hunter", and I build a few PCs on the side for people, though I don't generally charge much if any markup.

 

[aleader]

My local Memory Express just got '10+' EVGA XC3 Ultra 3070's in stock and a Sapphire Nitro+ 6800. You can only reserve and pick them up in store (good policy). I've been waffling for a few hours now. Still so overpriced. $829 CAD ($628 USD) for the 3070 and $1,135 ($850 USD) for the 6800.

I'm trying to balance whether I could make enough ETH mining with them during downtime to pay off the exorbitant price bump. I do have a B550 board and 5600X, so I guess the 6800 would have the SAM feature going for it...

 

[MrTeal]

My local Memory Express just got '10+' EVGA XC3 Ultra 3070's in stock and a Sapphire Nitro+ 6800. You can only reserve and pick them up in store (good policy). I've been waffling for a few hours now. Still so overpriced. $829 CAD ($628 USD) for the 3070 and $1,135 ($850 USD) for the 6800.

I'm trying to balance whether I could make enough ETH mining with them during downtime to pay off the exorbitant price bump. I do have a B550 board and 5600X, so I guess the 6800 would have the SAM feature going for it...

You're in Saskatoon too? I bought one of the Ventus 3x's yesterday, I kind of wish I'd waited a day now. I'll keep it until I can get an RX off AMD's site or a reasonable 3080 or 3080 Ti.