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Do you think Door Buster Sales shouldn't be allowed anymore?

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Originally posted by: episodic
Here is what I think.


Stop blaming the store.
Stop blaming sales.
Stop blaming police.


How about blame the people that did it - figure out who did it - and jail them - forever, if you like - but stop blaming everything/one else.

I do blame the store because of poor planning. They should have hired more security and had them highly visible and holding the crowd away from the door. The manager should loose his job.
 
Originally posted by: dawp
Originally posted by: episodic
Here is what I think.


Stop blaming the store.
Stop blaming sales.
Stop blaming police.


How about blame the people that did it - figure out who did it - and jail them - forever, if you like - but stop blaming everything/one else.

I do blame the store because of poor planning. They should have hired more security and had them highly visible and holding the crowd away from the door. The manager should loose his job.

That is what is wrong with society - always someone else is at fault. Personal responsibility. You should not have to have a store control you.
 
Originally posted by: episodic
Originally posted by: dawp
Originally posted by: episodic
Here is what I think.


Stop blaming the store.
Stop blaming sales.
Stop blaming police.


How about blame the people that did it - figure out who did it - and jail them - forever, if you like - but stop blaming everything/one else.

I do blame the store because of poor planning. They should have hired more security and had them highly visible and holding the crowd away from the door. The manager should loose his job.

That is what is wrong with society - always someone else is at fault. Personal responsibility. You should not have to have a store control you.

they all do the minute you walk in the door, or else they would go out of business. a store is all about control of the shopper so they will buy more and eliminating losses.

The store manager IS ultimately responsible for how his store is run. He has to think ahead and prepare for any outcome in a sale such as this. If he didn't realize this could happen, he doesn't need to running a store.
 
Originally posted by: dawp
I do blame the store because of poor planning. They should have hired more security and had them highly visible and holding the crowd away from the door. The manager should loose his job.

I blame your English teacher. She should have spent more hours tutoring you and making you write grammatically correct sentences on the board. She should lose her job.
 
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: dawp
I do blame the store because of poor planning. They should have hired more security and had them highly visible and holding the crowd away from the door. The manager should loose his job.

I blame your English teacher. She should have spent more hours tutoring you and making you write grammatically correct sentences on the board. She should lose her job.

K, grammer nazi.:roll:

My line of work it's unimportant.
 
I've worked my share of jobs that involve providing a service to a client, including some retail, as both a front line employee, supervisor and manager. I've always felt it was my job to make sure the good folks spending their hard earned money, and helping to keep me employed, are taken care of damn well. I treat them exactly the way I would want to be treated as a customer/client, but most retail managers don't seem to share that feeling.

Walmart should be ashamed that they allowed the Black Friday situation to devolve in the the deadly melee it did. Their employees needed to make their presence felt among the waiting crowd early and often during the night. They should have handed out numbers for the doorbuster items so nobody could rush the door at the last minute, and they should have made damn sure they had enough security on hand to stop the line jumpers and keep everyone safe.
 
Originally posted by: dawp
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: dawp
I do blame the store because of poor planning. They should have hired more security and had them highly visible and holding the crowd away from the door. The manager should loose his job.

I blame your English teacher. She should have spent more hours tutoring you and making you write grammatically correct sentences on the board. She should lose her job.

K, grammer nazi.:roll:

My line of work it's unimportant.

Too subtle for you?

Hint: It wasn't your teacher's fault. And it wasn't the manager's fault.
 
I keep wanting to say let stupid people kill each other over 5 bucks, but I have to keep reminding myself that it's the poor dude working for minimum wage on a holiday that gets trampled in this shit. I think there is a significant amount of deception in these sales.
 
My honest opinion I think Black Friday should be banned forever.

In New York, the male employee that got trampled and killed....WTF kind of shit is that ? I hope the individuals that did it think the few dollars they saved to take another persons life was worth it in the end. Even though they ruined Christmas for that persons family.

Its total BS.
 
Originally posted by: Sasiki
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
I don't think they can be discontinued, but I think stores should just hand out coupons to people in the order that they lined up instead of allowing them to race through the store.

I agree with this.
I heard a couple of BB's did that for the PS3 and Wii releases and it worked out great.
 
I never see people run into the stores around here. Well unless its a mall but thats more or less to get to the store inside the mall.

Best Buy handed out tickets the last time I went for the popular items so there was no point in running.
 
Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: Sasiki
Originally posted by: BeauJangles
I don't think they can be discontinued, but I think stores should just hand out coupons to people in the order that they lined up instead of allowing them to race through the store.

I agree with this.
I heard a couple of BB's did that for the PS3 and Wii releases and it worked out great.
ideally, they'd just do this. but masses are stupid, they'll still bum rush the door.
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
In light of the stupidity of the masses who bum rush doors for overrated electronics, do you think Black Friday deals should be discontinued at stores?

no, we need more dead Walmart greeters.
 
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Jesus christ you want the government to tell a store they cant have a sale?


Yikes...

How on earth did you leap to that ridiculous conclusion?

Title: "Shouldnt be allowed anymore"


Only the government has the power to tell a business that they cannot open at a certain time or sell items for a certain price via law/code.

Title "Do you think Door Buster Sales shouldn't be allowed anymore?"

And you're WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY offbase on what the government can and cannot do. It's pretty easy to pass a law that says all advertised sales can't be limited to items on hand. Voila, doorbusters gone, but no government meddling by telling a store they can't have a sale.

Was that really so complicated that you needed it spelled out to you?

Read that post again, and tell me why I shouldn't laugh at you right now.

I said Govt. has no business legislating things as trivial as black friday. You acted like me bringing the Govt. into this was off base. You then proceeded to explain how they could effectively outlaw the sales. I bolded it for you. 😉

You're clearly missing the logic that while all door buster sales are sales, not all sales are door buster sales.

You made the statement "you want the government to tell a store they can't have a sale?" and the implication is that you're referring to ALL sales, not just door buster sales, thus the perceived statement was:

"Do you want the government to tell a store they can't have any sales?" ...which would be a logical fallacy because it falsely assumes something that cannot be truly assumed from the statement.

Not:

"Do you want the government to tell a store they can't have a door buster sale" as you may have intended.

Furthermore, you said: "I said Govt. has no business legislating things as trivial as black friday." which was not something you actually said.

Finally, you falsely assumed "[Gag] acted like [OCGuy] bringing the Govt. into this was off base." He didn't assume this, he was commenting on the logical fallacy you made.

 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: moshquerade
In light of the stupidity of the masses who bum rush doors for overrated electronics, do you think Black Friday deals should be discontinued at stores?

no, we need more dead Walmart greeters.

😕

failed attempt at humour.
 
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