Athanasius
Senior member
You don't waste your time trying to tell the difference. Kill them all and let God sort them out.
j/k 🙂
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Do You Save The Spider?
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You don't waste your time trying to tell the difference. Kill them all and let God sort them out.
j/k 🙂
Loving everything and not killing are not synonymous. I love nature and I love myself, and I consider myself in extreme harmony with my nature. Part of nature is the cycle of life and death. Things kill things, sometimes apparently indescriminately. Drowning a spider that happens to be there is just as much a natural act as a jilted wife stabbing her philandering husband in the eye. I am of the opinion that as we all exist and are a product of nature, every action we do is a natural act. Choosing not to kill is just as valid a decision as killing. Guilt and society's concepts of morality are constructs by which we keep ourselves in check. Love has nothing to do with it. A non-specific love for everything includes loving the death of things as a part of the cycle of life.
kgraeme, You know it's difficult for me to resist the urge to kill people who disagree with me, 😀 but if I can get myself in check, I will offer neither agreement or disagreement.
My guess is that you see this issue as part of a duality, life and death, killing or not killing, and you have a sense that you have escaped a guilt ridden view of it and are in harmony with your natural self. I can appreciate that point of view, I could say I shared it. I only suggest there may be a third way to see this, one in which that duality collapses transporting you nowhere into another world and a completely different understanding. In the mean time know that I don't even kill mosquitos, I just transform them into fertilizer.
My guess is that you see this issue as part of a duality, life and death, killing or not killing, and you have a sense that you have escaped a guilt ridden view of it and are in harmony with your natural self. I can appreciate that point of view, I could say I shared it. I only suggest there may be a third way to see this, one in which that duality collapses transporting you nowhere into another world and a completely different understanding. In the mean time know that I don't even kill mosquitos, I just transform them into fertilizer.
That's fabulous, but you fail to understand how evil they are. They're little and they have dozens of legs!!!! That's evil right there. If they had 4, 6, or even 8 legs they wouldn't be as evil. But being that they have as many legs as they do they're pure evil. In fact, I was talking to one the other day before I killed it and I asked him why his kin keep invading my house. He responded "Because we're evil". I mean, they even know that they're evil yet they persist on tormenting me. I asked him if they wouldn't mind just living outside under the deck or something and he said, "We can't, we're pure evil. We need to invade your house because it is in our nature". I was floored when he said that. I mean, I asked real nice and everything but yet they wouldn't stop tormenting me.
It's like the story of the scorpion and the turtle. The scorpion was trying desparately to get across a river, but no path could be found. Finally he came across a turtle and asked if he wouldn't mind giving him a lift across the river. Well, the turtle thought about it and he figured "Why not", if he stung me then we would both drown and that's not cool. So the scorpion hopped aboard and the turtle started making his way across the river. Half-way through the journey the scorpion stung the turtle thereby injecting him with poison and paralyzing him. They both started sinking and before they went under the turtle asked "Why'd you do it? Why did you sting me if you knew we would both drown?" And the scorpion responded, "Because it's in my nature. I cannot change who I am".
See, it's evil just like that. Of course if my house had sorpions I'd catch them and keep them in a cage becuase they have claws and a tail and only 8 legs. Plus they almost look like a crab and crabs are cool. But we're not talking about scorpions, we're talking about the devil's minions.
After I had my little conversation with satan's helper I felt I had no choice but to eradicate him. I tried reasoning with his kind, but they didn't want any part of that. As I was freezing him with my inverted can of compressed air I could see a little tear roll down his cheek as if he were trying to say "I'm sorry that we're evil and we torment you".
The moral of the story is, evil as great as this cannot be reasoned with. It must be hunted down and destoryed for the fate of the entire galaxy depends on it.
Thus sayeth Cougar.
P.S. I were to love myself wouldn't I be killing kittens?
Dude! That's not the half of it. If they stayed little, they might only be mostly evil. But they don't, they get big. I've seen 'em so big that when you squash them with your foot, there're parts sticking out either side! And they separate and each part wriggles away like some evil demon mutation. The fact that they are the exact color of beige carpet is just another part of their evil plan. If they infested the house and stayed on the carpet they would only be quite evil, but no, they have to crawl up your pillow or into your hat. Then when you put your hat on they come out running like the devil himself down your face. Yep, that's evil.
Nope, I'm not a Zoroastrian by any stretch, though most people are stuck in that dualistic mindset. Life is full of things that happen. Some of them are the result of choices we make. As you suggest, there are a multitude of choices that can be made and a multitude of lives to be lead. As for guilt, while I do feel rather at harmony with my natural self, I have plenty of guilt over past actions and there is no escaping or even rationalizing them. They are just another piece of the life that I have lead.
Cougar: "That's fabulous, but you fail to understand how evil they are. They're little and they have dozens of legs!!!! That's evil right there. If they had 4, 6, or even 8 legs they wouldn't be as evil........................................... Of course if my house had sorpions I'd catch them and keep them in a cage becuase they have claws and a tail and only 8 legs."
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Get it now? 😀
kgraeme, I remember hearing a story about somebody asking a Zen master what he regretted most. He said, "Most of all I regret nothing."
And while you probably didn't intend it, you can't say something like, " I have plenty of guilt over past actions and there is no escaping or even rationalizing them. They are just another piece of the life that I have lead." to somebody who saves spiders without it setting off a string of emotions. Kinda wish we could sit and have a beer.
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Get it now? 😀
kgraeme, I remember hearing a story about somebody asking a Zen master what he regretted most. He said, "Most of all I regret nothing."
And while you probably didn't intend it, you can't say something like, " I have plenty of guilt over past actions and there is no escaping or even rationalizing them. They are just another piece of the life that I have lead." to somebody who saves spiders without it setting off a string of emotions. Kinda wish we could sit and have a beer.
Ok, I see where you're going with this. When I said If they had 4, 6, or even 8 legs they wouldn't be as evil that didn't mean that things with only 8 legs aren't evil. That means that they're slightly less evil than something with more than 8 legs. Understand?
Now onto my scorpions. The sentence right after Of course if my house had sorpions I'd catch them and keep them in a cage becuase they have claws and a tail and only 8 legs is the important one. Plus they almost look like a crab and crabs are cool <------- that overrides the fact that they have 8 legs. Crabs are cool (I guess technically they're more like lobsters which are cool too) and they're also bigger than spiders/centipedes/critters so that's automatically 1 point in their favor. Besides, I never said I go out of my way to kill spiders. I said I pretty much leave them alone. It's the centipedes that are evil.
There can be no debating that they're evil.
1. They're small
2. They have dozens of legs (eeewwwwww) <----- instant evil qualification
3. They have a long skinny body
4. They live in my house
5. They take roost in my bath towels
6. They cross my path and therefore must die.
7. They're icky
8. They're evil.
Scorpions are cool because:
1. They're not a critter
2. They're bigger than critters
3. They have Claws
4. They have a Tail
5. They have only 8 legs
6. They look kinds like crabs (ok, lobsters) which overrides the fact that they have 8 legs
Now, does that clear things up for you? Spiders = evil, but less evil than centipedes and get left alone if they don't cross my path. Centipedes = evil because thay are the spawn of satan.
1 for bad 2 for good.
Brutuskend
Lifer
Yup I do.
I also save them when I see them in the Urnial.
NOTHING deserves to die THAT way!!
I don't care HOW evil they were in thier LAST LIFE!
The question reminds me of a Joke though.
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A little girl is out in the garden with her father one day and see's two spiders doing something rather strange.
She askes her father what they are doing?
"There having sex" says the father.
"What kind of spider is that?" she askes her father.
"Thats a grand-daddy long legs," he says.
"Oh so that other spider must be a grad-mother long legs?" she askes.
"No" says the father
"It's a grand-daddy long legs too!"
Where upone the little girl smashes both spiders into a grease spot.
"We'll have none of THAT crap in THIS garden" she says! 😉
I also save them when I see them in the Urnial.
NOTHING deserves to die THAT way!!
I don't care HOW evil they were in thier LAST LIFE!
The question reminds me of a Joke though.
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A little girl is out in the garden with her father one day and see's two spiders doing something rather strange.
She askes her father what they are doing?
"There having sex" says the father.
"What kind of spider is that?" she askes her father.
"Thats a grand-daddy long legs," he says.
"Oh so that other spider must be a grad-mother long legs?" she askes.
"No" says the father
"It's a grand-daddy long legs too!"
Where upone the little girl smashes both spiders into a grease spot.
"We'll have none of THAT crap in THIS garden" she says! 😉
Exactly!!!! We have beige carpet!!! You think to yourself, "Hmmmm, what's that little spec on the carpet", so you go and investigate and all of a sudden "Oh My God!!!!!! It moved!!!!!! I think it may have touched me!!! Spare yourselves!!!". There's no reasoning with these beasts. They stay hidden until they're ready to strike, and then they make their move. Why if it weren't for my can of compressed air I shudder to think what my fate would have been at the hands of these monstrosities. I don't even want to know how many times they've crawled into bed with me at night and performed unspeakable acts upon me.
Yes my friend. We are dealing with evil in its purest form.
Oh this conspiracy runs deeper than I ever imagined. It's clear that not only are the beasts out to get us, but the carpet manufacturers are also in cahootz with the devil. This must be some kind of sick cult or something.
Which S-word? Spiders? Scorpions? Satan? Supercalafrajalisticexpialidcious?
Speak to me Lord Maul, for I am truly vexed.
I've been entertaining the notion that beige carpet is actually made from these little beasties. The ones we see are part of the advanced reconnaisance that awaken from slumber but soon all the beige carpets will rise up in a foul mass of wriggling legs. (Edit: Hopefully you have hardwood under those carpets because subflooring will just be sooo tacky to look at.)
BTW, don't discount scorpions. They occasionally have the bad seed that decides to become evil and crawl into your shoe at night. Knocking out your shoes when waking in a desert camp is a good practice.
I hear that the film Predator is based on a legend of an arachno-form alien that hunts in the jungles for men by using spiders as lures. Men walking the jungle trails who see the nasty beasties and decide to step on them find their foot cemented in place so the big spiders can slowly slime and digest them, keeping the teeth as trophies and a form of currency.
Yes, it all makes perfect sense now. You never actually see where they come from, they just appear out of thin air. One by one they slowly creep forth out of the carpet and wreak havoc on the surrounding area. It's clear that I've underestimated how truly evil they are. Sadly we don't have hard wood flooring so it's the beige bug infested carpet or nothing.
Thankfully I don't live near the desert so I don't have to worry about any rogue scorpions. If I did though I'd catch the beast, strap a bomb to his back (m-80 or something) and watch the body parts fly.
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