Do you judge people based upon their major in college?

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HamburgerBoy

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No, I know many people without college degrees and they are great people who work extremely hard at what they do to support their families.

The op didn't say anything about people without a college degree. I have much more respect for someone that works a trade than someone that takes out a bazillion loans to get a PhD in women's studies while lamenting their inability to find a job that isn't beneath them.
 

AreaCode707

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Usually I do. People who major in things that are not engineering tend to strike me as, "I'm not planning on getting a decently paying job after college." And sometimes as, "I'm a student who gets a useless degree while racking up lots of debt." (Private school+Useless major)

I ask what they plan to do with that major and they generally respond with how they don't know. :thumbsdown:

I have an English and Communications Bachelors. Fast forward 8 years; I make more annually than every single one of my friends, including my comp sci/engineering friends (though, granted, not by much.)

Grouping people together by statistical likelihood is one thing; I know I am a statistical anomaly.

Judging people as though their futures, financial and personal worth are pre-determined by their major is going to make you incorrect far more often than you would probably be comfortable with.
 

TridenT

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UW's CS was derived from the mathematics program. CSE was derived from both the CS and EE program. It would make sense for the CSE program to have a more engineering background versus CS.

It's even in the fucking college of arts and sciences. Not engineering. >.<

Anyway, I thought it was a BA. I swear I read that somewhere. (But the UW website has lots of errors and inconsistencies, so I am not surprised)
 

TridenT

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I have an English and Communications Bachelors. Fast forward 8 years; I make more annually than every single one of my friends, including my comp sci/engineering friends (though, granted, not by much.)

Grouping people together by statistical likelihood is one thing; I know I am a statistical anomaly.

Judging people as though their futures, financial and personal worth are pre-determined by their major is going to make you incorrect far more often than you would probably be comfortable with.

So you're saying statistics is all bullshit and we should give up all hope.

All those figures about AIDS guys, lies! No one actually has it. Statisticians, LIARS!
 

Ricemarine

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It's even in the fucking college of arts and sciences. Not engineering. >.<

Anyway, I thought it was a BA. I swear I read that somewhere. (But the UW website has lots of errors and inconsistencies, so I am not surprised)

They're in both. hurr. Anyhow, to answer the OP, although it's very easy to, you shouldn't. It's very easy for anyone to surpass you given the proper motivation.
 

TridenT

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They're in both. hurr. Anyhow, to answer the OP, although it's very easy to, you shouldn't. It's very easy for anyone to surpass you given the proper motivation.

Proper motivation/time/background/LOTS-OF-OTHER-THINGS...

I might be an inventor and be motivated as fuck, but it takes something special to pull off a pet rock.
 

PieIsAwesome

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There are only Chinese and Indians in engineering. Plus, my sister was a B+ student in civil engineering and didn't even get hired yet.

From my experiences, this is completely false. There are no asians where I work, except one that is a machinist. And at the places I interviewed, I think I saw a grand total of one? And the proportion of Asians in my engineering classes is completely ordinary, the same as the non-engineering classes I took.

Its probably different in grad school, but Americanized Asians are just as retarded as the rest of Americans.
 

wheresmybacon

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Usually I do. People who major in things that are not engineering tend to strike me as, "I'm not planning on getting a decently paying job after college." And sometimes as, "I'm a student who gets a useless degree while racking up lots of debt." (Private school+Useless major)

I ask what they plan to do with that major and they generally respond with how they don't know. :thumbsdown:

The vast majority of people, in my experience and at my small school, didn't know wtf they wanted to do, me included, so I was far from being in a position to judge anyone about their area of study. As an athlete, I was more concerned about trying to make it pro in come capacity than making my degree do anything. That said, I didn't (couldn't) go pro and I got on with my life.

I was an Economics major and I'm now a Data Center Engineer for HP. I've been working in IT since 1997.
 

HamburgerBoy

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From my experiences, this is completely false. There are no asians where I work, except one that is a machinist. And at the places I interviewed, I think I saw a grand total of one? And the proportion of Asians in my engineering classes is completely ordinary, the same as the non-engineering classes I took.

Its probably different in grad school, but Americanized Asians are just as retarded as the rest of Americans.

Asians, maybe, as they've been here a while longer on average. However, the engineering/computer science labs here are always packed with Indians/Pakistanis/etc, and I don't live in a city with a lot of them.
 

Kirby

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So you're saying statistics is all bullshit and we should give up all hope.

All those figures about AIDS guys, lies! No one actually has it. Statisticians, LIARS!

I think you should perhaps take a statistics class if you came to that conclusion based on what was quoted.
 

Born2bwire

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My judgement of people is inversely proportional to the amount they complain.

Oh hai TridenT.
 

Aikouka

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Nursing - I'm gonna get laid tonight!

Hmm... I see lots of girls on the dating sites that say, "I only have my high school diploma/GED, but I want to go into nursing!" So, I should be going after those ones? ;)
 

HamburgerBoy

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Hmm... I see lots of girls on the dating sites that say, "I only have my high school diploma/GED, but I want to go into nursing!" So, I should be going after those ones? ;)

I think you're supposed to go for the ones in college. The idea is that nursing students are busy with coursework, internships, volunteering events, and other things, so they are under a lot of stress and when they have some downtime...
 

Engineer

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Usually I do. People who major in things that are not engineering tend to strike me as, "I'm not planning on getting a decently paying job after college." And sometimes as, "I'm a student who gets a useless degree while racking up lots of debt." (Private school+Useless major)

I ask what they plan to do with that major and they generally respond with how they don't know. :thumbsdown:

You're a fucking douche.

/thread
 

AreaCode707

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So you're saying statistics is all bullshit and we should give up all hope.

All those figures about AIDS guys, lies! No one actually has it. Statisticians, LIARS!

No, my point is save the statistics for when you are dealing with populations large enough to be statistically relevant. When you are dealing with a single human being, judge them based on themselves because statistics are going to fail you.

Or did you fail statistics? Sample size is everything.
 

TridenT

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No, my point is save the statistics for when you are dealing with populations large enough to be statistically relevant. When you are dealing with a single human being, judge them based on themselves because statistics are going to fail you.

Or did you fail statistics? Sample size is everything.

People are the data. Pulling one person out of the data says they will fall along the statistics thus making me more right than wrong.

Think of how it's impossible for a point to exist below 0 if the data is always positive...
 

AreaCode707

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People are the data. Pulling one person out of the data says they will fall along the statistics thus making me more right than wrong.

Think of how it's impossible for a point to exist below 0 if the data is always positive...

Dealing with a single person makes it impossible for you to predict whether or not they are an outlier.
 

TridenT

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Dealing with a single person makes it impossible for you to predict whether or not they are an outlier.

I don't think you understand OR are trying to make some off-hand recovery with your previous argument after failing miserably.
 

AreaCode707

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I don't think you understand OR are trying to make some off-hand recovery with your previous argument after failing miserably.

I would argue with you more but you failed to actually make a counter argument and I'm on my way out for the evening. Enjoy spending another Friday night with ATOT beating you up.
 

TridenT

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I would argue with you more but you failed to actually make a counter argument and I'm on my way out for the evening. Enjoy spending another Friday night with ATOT beating you up.

You failed. :thumbsup: Way to leave the thread after failing.

Learn how pulling a sample out of the data = your sample will fall somewhere into the data. (99% of the time. That's why we call things that are those 1%, OUTLIERS. That's why I am right, 99% OF THE TIME, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE WRONG. YA DIGG? :rolleyes:)
 

Fayd

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People are the data. Pulling one person out of the data says they will fall along the statistics thus making me more right than wrong.

Think of how it's impossible for a point to exist below 0 if the data is always positive...

sounds like the english/comms major has a better grasp of the use of statistics then you.

shut up trident.
 

SMOGZINN

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I look down on people with only one degree.
And lets face it, engineers are just the ones that couldn't handle being real scientists.