Do you guys use peer guardian?

[ManBearPig]

Do you? If so, which one should i DL (scourforge dl lists are not very organized).

thanks.


sorry if i was supposed to put this in security, i wasn't sure.

 

[w00t]

I just started to yesterday.

http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/

simple links there
I had the same problem on surgeforce too btw

 

[pcnerd37]

I use it, it seems pretty effective, sometimes too much so.

 

[Special K]

Originally posted by: pcnerd37
I use it, it seems pretty effective, sometimes too much so.

Yeah, that program blocks cnn.com and all Valve IP addresses whenever I run it.

 

[0roo0roo]

just add those to the permanent unblock,right click on the stuff that appears when you try to start steam

 

[n7]

Used to...waiting for a Vista version presently.

 

[pontifex]

i do but it keeps crashing or something. i'll start it up and a few hours later its gone. not running anymore and no error messages

 

[ManBearPig]

1)should i allow http or not?

2)how can i allow certain sites to be unblocked when http is disabled (i cant access cnn if http is blocked).

3)why is it showing all these things in the block list that i have nothing to do with...aol transit data network, purdue, georgia tech, limelight networks, etc?

4)how come when i open the government list theres nothing in there?

5)why doesnt steam work? i have no idea how to fix this.

 

[ManBearPig]

bump

 

[natto fire]

Yeah, sometimes. It is a very rough program, to say the least. There is no way to change lists that I know of. So if you are blocking HTTP, forget about accessing the internet. Steam does not work because it is one of the IPs that is blocked. Same thing happened to me, it also kills XFire, BTW.

It is a good program, don't get me wrong, but the mere fact you need to use it means you are doing something illegal, so it is not meant for n00bs.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: n7
Used to...waiting for a Vista version presently.

A version for Vista is in beta/RC now.

 

[mb]

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: n7
Used to...waiting for a Vista version presently.

A version for Vista is in beta/RC now.

Yup, I've been using it for a few days now.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: Heen05
1)should i allow http or not?

2)how can i allow certain sites to be unblocked when http is disabled (i cant access cnn if http is blocked).

3)why is it showing all these things in the block list that i have nothing to do with...aol transit data network, purdue, georgia tech, limelight networks, etc?

4)how come when i open the government list theres nothing in there?

5)why doesnt steam work? i have no idea how to fix this.

1) Some P2P apps use port 80 for some functions so they give you the option. The official advice is to block HTTP and add any IP's you need to access to a permanent allow list.

2) You can add the IP (or range) to the permanent allow list. Right-click on the address in the block window and click "Allow x.x.x.x permanently" or create a new list via the List Manager.

3) Depends what you're doing (e.g. Steam) or downloading at the time, you will get random connections even after you've closed your P2P application. Limelight Networks is used for Steam.

4) The government list was discontinued as the IP's were merged with the P2P list. You can deselect the list.

5) Valve and Limelight Network IP's are blocked by default. I usually switch off PG2 when I want to use Steam cos it's easier than trying to allow all the addresses/ranges it can attempt to connect and update with.

 

[ManBearPig]

how can i add the certain sites though? like, it doesnt say what it is, only gives me a bunch of ips that i have no idea what they belong to heh.

thanks for the info skyscraper!

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: Heen05
how can i add the certain sites though? like, it doesnt say what it is, only gives me a bunch of ips that i have no idea what they belong to heh.

First, ensure you've switched off "Show allowed connections" in the options. This will make things a lot easier.

I'd normally only unblock addresses where the source address is your local IP. For example, when I try listening to a particular internet radio station, I see the same destination IP address popping up in the block log, with my local IP as the source. Winamp fails to connect so it's obvious that I need to unblock that IP.

You can experiment when your P2P app isn't running to make it easier to spot what's going on. Try browsing the web and running your usual games/apps to see what the block log does. Once you've got those sorted out, there shouldn't be much else you need to unblock, unless you install a new app/game or browse a website that's in a blocked range. As before, you can check the block log and make an informed decision as to what's going on.

The PhoenixLabs forums are a good source of information, the mods are quite helpful too.

 

[ManBearPig]

Awesome...im starting to get the hang of it.

But heres an example...i block http, try to load CNN, and about 4-6 things come up that are blocked from AOL transit network. how am i supposed to know which to allow? also...is there anyway to add them all at once? it takes forever to add it.

thanks again

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: Heen05
But heres an example...i block http, try to load CNN, and about 4-6 things come up that are blocked from AOL transit network. how am i supposed to know which to allow?

Check if they have the same destination address, it might be repeated requests to the same one. They could be on the ads list also, you could try switching off the ads list temporarily to double-check.

also...is there anyway to add them all at once? it takes forever to add it.

I don't know of a faster way other than adding a range of IP's instead, e.g. 10 to 20.

 

[hdeck]

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: n7
Used to...waiting for a Vista version presently.

A version for Vista is in beta/RC now.

i can't get it to work & i don't feel like registering on their forums to ask questions. program installs, goes through the set-up of asking what features i want to use, then goes away. it's in the processes when i open the task manager, but i can't access it or anything.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: hdeck
i can't get it to work & i don't feel like registering on their forums to ask questions. program installs, goes through the set-up of asking what features i want to use, then goes away. it's in the processes when i open the task manager, but i can't access it or anything.

There was a bug in the first test release that meant PG2 wouldn't work after install unless you restarted the machine before running it. I think that was fixed in the second release, they now seem to be on a RC albeit with known issues.

I'd recommend reading this thread, along with a full uninstall and reinstall. Don't launch PG until you've restarted. If none of that fixes it, I'd wait for the final build or register and ask.

 

[hdeck]

i got the program to run by installing & then rebooting before running it, but after a restarted my machine again it went back to not loading up. i guess i will just wait until an official release.

 

[ManBearPig]

some of the things it blocks i have no idea how they're even they're lol...

NASA, department of justice, Chinese colleges, Russian colleges, American colleges, informatics institutes, military academies, time warner, etc.

WTF? im not even doing anything for those to be blocked.

 

[ManBearPig]

oh...also, what if a couple of the lists arent updating? it has some sort of error contacting the server or something.

 

[ManBearPig]

bump

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Heen05
some of the things it blocks i have no idea how they're even they're lol...

NASA, department of justice, Chinese colleges, Russian colleges, American colleges, informatics institutes, military academies, time warner, etc.

WTF? im not even doing anything for those to be blocked.

thats the point, its blacking anything thats trying to see you...

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: Heen05
1)should i allow http or not?

2)how can i allow certain sites to be unblocked when http is disabled (i cant access cnn if http is blocked).

3)why is it showing all these things in the block list that i have nothing to do with...aol transit data network, purdue, georgia tech, limelight networks, etc?

4)how come when i open the government list theres nothing in there?

5)why doesnt steam work? i have no idea how to fix this.

1) Some P2P apps use port 80 for some functions so they give you the option. The official advice is to block HTTP and add any IP's you need to access to a permanent allow list.

2) You can add the IP (or range) to the permanent allow list. Right-click on the address in the block window and click "Allow x.x.x.x permanently" or create a new list via the List Manager.

3) Depends what you're doing (e.g. Steam) or downloading at the time, you will get random connections even after you've closed your P2P application. Limelight Networks is used for Steam.

4) The government list was discontinued as the IP's were merged with the P2P list. You can deselect the list.

5) Valve and Limelight Network IP's are blocked by default. I usually switch off PG2 when I want to use Steam cos it's easier than trying to allow all the addresses/ranges it can attempt to connect and update with.

Here's my take:
1) Allow it. If you're not paranoid stuff, it's fine. Not being able to browse Newegg, Amazon and dozens of other sites is annoying. Sure I could spend time adding adn allowing new sites, but it's just a hassle.

4) PG2 blocks roughly 1/3 of the world's IPs. Even after you shut down Torrent or whatever oyu use to DL, a lot of peers out there still check out your IP. It can take days before all that traffic subsides.

5) Just don't download wheny ou play games. I don't download when I play Warcraft 3. That way I turn off PG2

Finally a question to mods: Why would you need this program to begin with unless you're using.... peer 2 peer to download illegal things? So why couldn't I talk about red light camera sprays for your license plates again which are legal products just like Peer Guardian? Both products no doubt only come to use and are for the purpose of committing illegal activities. I guess if a lot of people can use PG2, then it becomes an acceptable topic =)