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Do you guys believe in the supernatural?

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norseamd said:
some physicists assume they know something when they have no proof that it is absolutely true
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Physicists don't "assume' anything. The look at conditions in a system, find patterns, create a mathematical model, and see if the model holds up to scrutiny in various situations. The model is then adjusted as needed until a plausible result is formed. Physicists love nothing more than to be proved wrong, because that points them in the direction of the correct answer.

They don't just go "Ya know...I betcha things work like this!" That's how religions and superstitions are formed.
 
norseamd said:
what are the possible forms of faster than light intersteller spaceflight?

there is the alcumbierre drive
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The "warp" drive is hypothetically possible, but we'd have to discover exotic matter, and we don't even know if it exists or not. It should exist, but we're clueless as to how to produce it. If we can find exotic matter, it would also give us Star Wars type of technology- mainly with floating cars, ships, and the ability to move huge masses with little power.

Wormholes are the other form of FTL. However, the energy requirements for this form of travel are practically impossible.

There's some other ideas about FTL - extradmentional travel is one (if we can figure out how to penetrate and send information through higher dimensions). This would be like "hyperspace" in Star Wars, or sub-space in Star Trek.

IronWing said:
No. Proving other physicists wrong is much more fun than being proven wrong. 😛
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LOL- there is some friendly rivalry in the field, but that's mainly just for fun. Anything that can be proven in physics is exciting because it brings us one step closer to understanding why the universe works.
 
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Fritzo said:
The "warp" drive is hypothetically possible, but we'd have to discover exotic matter, and we don't even know if it exists or not. It should exist, but we're clueless as to how to produce it. If we can find exotic matter, it would also give us Star Wars type of technology- mainly with floating cars, ships, and the ability to move huge masses with little power.

Wormholes are the other form of FTL. However, the energy requirements for this form of travel are practically impossible.

There's some other ideas about FTL - extradmentional travel is one (if we can figure out how to penetrate and send information through higher dimensions). This would be like "hyperspace" in Star Wars, or sub-space in Star Trek.
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I don't see why anything should exist. Explain please? I hope it's not just so humans can travel and explore space easier. The universe is not here just so humans can have their way, sorry to break it to some of you.
 
disappoint said:
I don't see why anything should exist. Explain please? I hope it's not just so humans can travel and explore space easier. The universe is not here just so humans can have their way, sorry to break it to some of you.
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At the risk of misinterpreting Fritzo, I think he's saying that there are various hypotheses involving unified physics where the math suggests that exotic matter does exist. However, I don't think any of those are all that well supported (I'm open to being pointed at evidence to the contrary). I wouldn't have worded the statement quite as strongly, but I understand where he's coming from.
 
Pheran said:
At the risk of misinterpreting Fritzo, I think he's saying that there are various hypotheses involving unified physics where the math suggests that exotic matter does exist. However, I don't think any of those are all that well supported (I'm open to being pointed at evidence to the contrary). I wouldn't have worded the statement quite as strongly, but I understand where he's coming from.
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You know what would be funny? If you needed warp drive to make it to a distant galaxy where you would find the matter that would make warp drive possible.

<Alanis>
Isn't it ironic? Don't you think?
</Alanis>
 
disappoint said:
I don't see why anything should exist. Explain please? I hope it's not just so humans can travel and explore space easier. The universe is not here just so humans can have their way, sorry to break it to some of you.
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There's a saying that goes "if something can exist, it most likely does exist". The specific property of exotic matter that we would need for a warp drive, anti-gravity transportation, and so forth is matter with negative mass. Matter with negative mass is can exist mathematically, and it does not violate any laws of conservation of momentum or energy.

So, since there is no reason it should not exist, it should be there. This same reasoning is what lead to the discovery of the Higgs boson. We couldn't detect it, but there was no reason it shouldn't exist and it solved a lot of problems. Decades of searching later...poof! There it is.
 
Fritzo said:
There's a saying that goes "if something can exist, it most likely does exist". The specific property of exotic matter that we would need for a warp drive, anti-gravity transportation, and so forth is matter with negative mass. Matter with negative mass is can exist mathematically, and it does not violate any laws of conservation of momentum or energy.

So, since there is no reason it should not exist, it should be there. This same reasoning is what lead to the discovery of the Higgs boson. We couldn't detect it, but there was no reason it shouldn't exist and it solved a lot of problems.
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Scientific theories that match observed phenomena sometimes rely on the existence of as yet unobserved phenomena to make sense. It's quite a big deal when these unobserved phenomena are later confirmed. Nobel prizes have been won just for confirmation of predictions made by relativity and evolution. I think it's incredible to see that happen. Exotic matter would fall into that category.
 
SlitheryDee said:
Scientific theories that match observed phenomena sometimes rely on the existence of as yet unobserved phenomena to make sense. It's quite a big deal when these unobserved phenomena are later confirmed. Nobel prizes have been won just for confirmation of predictions made by relativity and evolution. I think it's incredible to see that happen. Exotic matter would fall into that category.
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Exactly. You can think of it as a jigsaw puzzle with one piece missing. You don't know what the piece looks like exactly, but you can see the shape of it and you know something should be there.

Sometimes we get thrown a curve ball and instead of one missing puzzle piece, it turns out to be 2, 3, or more smaller pieces that fit into that empty space. This is the challenge of modern physics- we don't know if there's one piece left to complete the puzzle or billions of tiny pieces.
 
SlitheryDee said:
Scientific theories that match observed phenomena sometimes rely on the existence of as yet unobserved phenomena to make sense. It's quite a big deal when these unobserved phenomena are later confirmed. Nobel prizes have been won just for confirmation of predictions made by relativity and evolution. I think it's incredible to see that happen. Exotic matter would fall into that category.
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Dark matter is such a theory still. The current mathematical model for the universe holding itself together based on measured mass of the universe versus gravitational pull and outward centrifugal force would have our galaxy spin itself apart. It doesn't though and there has to be another force acting upon out galaxy to keep it together and from spinning apart. Measurements of the know are taken, but the math for the known doesn't match up. So theorizing an unknown outside force is the next logical step. That is not the same thing as calling this unknown force supernatural though. Just a phenomenon that has not been directly observed but the effects of which can be measured to a degree.

This was the same thing as the infamous higgs-bosun particle. It's effect was measurable, but it was never witnessed before until recently.
 
i believe that the mtDNA in most of the world pop was artificially formed from elements, minerals, and whatnot from the earth while the minority (not more than 3/10 of all classified as humans living today and not less than 1/40 of all people classified as humans living today) has a matrilineal ancestor directly created by their god and that that creation took place in siberia.

so to answer the OP's question... some people (all those with neanderthal mtDNA which are hgs UK, A, and D) are natural/designed intelligently and they have a supernatural soul since they were created by their god all at once. "modern man", the majority of all people classified as homo sapiens today, have mtDNA that was artificially made though because their mtDNA is closely related to monkeys.

the cro magnon man looked much more like chimpanzees than the neanerthal man did because the former had a narrower head, shorter face, weak legs/knees, smaller nose, narrow pelvis, and lower to upper limb ratios closer to chimpanzees... neanderthal is the opposite of the chimpanzee because the first neanderthal female was created directly by her God while the chimpanzee shares a common ancestor with monkeys as do all classified as hominids except for neanderthals
 
Anarchist420 said:
i believe that the mtDNA in most of the world pop was artificially formed from elements, minerals, and whatnot from the earth while the minority (not more than 3/10 of all classified as humans living today and not less than 1/40 of all people classified as humans living today) has a matrilineal ancestor directly created by their god and that that creation took place in siberia.

so to answer the OP's question... some people (all those with neanderthal mtDNA which are hgs UK, A, and D) are natural/designed intelligently and they have a supernatural soul since they were created by their god all at once. "modern man", the majority of all people classified as homo sapiens today, have mtDNA that was artificially made though because their mtDNA is closely related to monkeys.

the cro magnon man looked much more like chimpanzees than the neanerthal man did because the former had a narrower head, shorter face, weak legs/knees, smaller nose, narrow pelvis, and lower to upper limb ratios closer to chimpanzees... neanderthal is the opposite of the chimpanzee because the first neanderthal female was created directly by her God while the chimpanzee shares a common ancestor with monkeys as do all classified as hominids except for neanderthals
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How many copies of "Catcher in the Rye" do you own?
 
Conan: What gods do you pray to?
Subotai: I pray to the four winds&#8230; and you?
Conan: To Crom&#8230; but I seldom pray to him, he doesn&#8217;t listen.
Subotai: What good is he then? Ah, it&#8217;s just as I&#8217;ve always said.
Conan: He is strong! If I die, I have to go before him, and he will ask me, &#8220;What is the riddle of steel?&#8221; If I don&#8217;t know it, he will cast me out of Valhalla and laugh at me. That&#8217;s Crom, strong on his mountain!
Subotai: Ah, my god is greater.
Conan: Crom laughs at your four winds. He laughs from his mountain.
Subotai: My god is stronger. He is the everlasting sky! Your god lives underneath him.
 
Fritzo said:
There's a saying that goes "if something can exist, it most likely does exist". The specific property of exotic matter that we would need for a warp drive, anti-gravity transportation, and so forth is matter with negative mass. Matter with negative mass is can exist mathematically, and it does not violate any laws of conservation of momentum or energy.

So, since there is no reason it should not exist, it should be there. This same reasoning is what lead to the discovery of the Higgs boson. We couldn't detect it, but there was no reason it shouldn't exist and it solved a lot of problems. Decades of searching later...poof! There it is.
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That's pretty sketchy physics/science. You have taken a maxim and elevated it to a faith. They're is no scientific reason to believe in it. The Higgs did not have to exist. What it was is a potential piece of a problem which if real would offer a solution. Since it had such utility and wasn't impossible it was looked for. Yes it was found but there is no physical law that states it must have been. We might have been wrong and in some ways that would have been more interesting.

Here's a question for you. A possible solution to some quantum problems is that if an event provides a result which might have produced two possible outcomes suggests that both happen but at the moment of actualization another reality completely unobserved to us is spun off. "Many Worlds". It's something not easily swallowed by many but it isn't prohibited and therefore they by your criteria at least, must exist. I don't see that.
 
Fritzo said:
There's a saying that goes "if something can exist, it most likely does exist".
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Whoever came up with that saying must have been out of touch with reality. Whoever believed it and spread it on must have been gullible.

Can dinosaurs exist?
Yes. They did.
Are they most likely existing now?
Not so much right?

Most of the species that have existed on Earth have gone extinct.

They can exist. They did. They don't now.

Let's go a bit further and expand this to cover your exotic matter that sparked this discussion in the first place. The universe is expanding at an accelerated rate. Eventually (if this trend continues) everything will fly apart to the point where even the galaxies who's light can reach us now will no longer exist in our observable universe.

If the exotic matter you seek were available in or near one of those galaxies for example, there will be a time when it may be unreachable and unobservable.
 
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