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do you consider these games games of skill, luck, or something else?

Blackjack - mostly luck unless you can really follow basic strategy, then skill + luck
Poker - skill
Starcraft - skill
Risk - skill
Stratego - never played
Choh Dai D- never played
Archon- never played
Chess - skill
 
Blackjack - luck
poker - skill and luck (40/60)
starcraft - skill
risk - skill and luck (80/20)
stratego - never played
Choh Dai D- never played
Archon- never played
Chess - all skill
 
Blackjack
Poker
Starcraft
Risk
Stratego
Choh Dai D
Archon
Chess
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In order:
Skill & luck
Skill & luck (more skillfull than Blackjack)
Almost entirely skill
Almost entirely luck
No idea wtf that is
No idea wtf that is
No idea wtf that is
100% skill

If you guys are saying that Risk is huge on luck you've probably not played it in recent years. I think it's more skill than monopoly, but monopoly is so luck-driven as to be quite unenjoyable to me, as an adult, having now realized how little skill goes into the outcome of the game.
 
Stratego is a game of bluffing and memory, mostly luck. The rest I agree with all the other appraisals. Whats Choh Dai D and Archon?
 
Risk is part-luck, in the sense that any game with dice has an element of luck... but it's got a ton of skill involved. we all know a guy that would just NEVER lose at risk.. and we all know a guy that would never win.
 
Originally posted by: Amorphus
Stratego is a game of bluffing and memory, mostly luck. The rest I agree with all the other appraisals. Whats Choh Dai D and Archon?
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Choh Dai D is sometimes incorrectly called chinese poker and more correctly called big 2. It's a poker variant where poker becomes a climbing game. 2s are highest cards and suits go dia,club,heart, spade.

I can't believe people here have never played Archon. I just can't. Think of it as half chess, half top down shooter.
 
For poker, it depends on what kind you're playing. Texas Hold'em is definitely more skill than luck...it's all about bluffing and your ability to read your opponents.
 
if by 'other' you mean cheating, then i say it's mostly other.

except i haven't figured out a way to cheat at archon yet, so i think it's 100% skill.
 
texas hold'em is 80% skill 20% luck
chess is 100% skills (how could you say there is luck there?)
blackjack is 40% skill 60% luck (the odds are against you in any case)
the rest i don't know
 
Any game that involves cards being drawn from a deck has a healthy dose of luck. Assuming there is no foul play in the shuffling.

Poker is a bit of an exception where you can bluff people out...but ultimately if some guy is dealt a royal flush, and you have a single pair you aren't really going to back him down and you are stuck with the meager hand you are dealt.

Same with many other card games like Euchre...if you aren't dealt any trump, and somebody else is sitting on left, right, and an Ace, you're hosed. Nothing you can do to stop it. Sure, you can use skill to minimize your losses, but the game is thrown before the first card hits the table.

Or in blackjack - if a dealer nails a black jack on the first deal, you're screwed. No skill. Just pure luck.
 
Originally posted by: fyleow
Big 2 is ALL luck...it's not even a true gambling game.
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huh? I beg to differ.
You play a weak hand defensively to avoid double/triple your loss.
I've played a guy with four 2 in his hand, and won the round simply but flushing out his high cards.
This game is all skill if you are playing for money, the guy with good skill always wins.
 
I'm kinda partial to saying that poker would be all skill after a point. Simply because the goal of the game isn't to win any given hand. It's to win large enough once or twice in a progression of hands, using the weak hands to build a representation of yourself that most favorably contributes to the times when you are given a good hand. I like to think of it as maximizing every deal of the cards. The best players in the world win because they play a series of hands...not just one.

Big 2 I think really is mostly luck. The only skill/strategy is really whether or not to risk trying to run out quickly after a point once you've unloaded your deadweight, or to grind your cards down. In either case, there really is only one way to play it. Always play lowest card/combo you have possible unless you're saving to run out real quick.
 
Blackjack- luck (assuming you've already memorized the odds tables)
Poker- 80% skill 20% luck
Starcraft- skill
Chess - skill

wouldn't big 2 be '13'?

except vietnamese people would play it spades/clubs/diamonds/hearts
 
Blackjack - Luck on the player's part. You're trying to beat the house when they clearly have an advantage, why else would they go up against you. Counting cards no included.

Poker - There's some luck involved, but alot of it is skill play. Someone lucky can have a short run, but if he's in it with good players, he'd still end up losing.
 
Originally posted by: UncleWai
Originally posted by: fyleow
Big 2 is ALL luck...it's not even a true gambling game.
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huh? I beg to differ.
You play a weak hand defensively to avoid double/triple your loss.
I've played a guy with four 2 in his hand, and won the round simply but flushing out his high cards.
This game is all skill if you are playing for money, the guy with good skill always wins.
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That's pretty true. If you're playing one single hand, then the luck of the draw comes into play, but if you're playing a few rounds in a row that evens out with your opponents and it's mostly skill.
 
Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
Blackjack- luck (assuming you've already memorized the odds tables)
Poker- 80% skill 20% luck
Starcraft- skill
Chess - skill

wouldn't big 2 be '13'?

except vietnamese people would play it spades/clubs/diamonds/hearts
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I've heard of lots of variants...where going out with a 2 in your hand nets you extra cash. Doubles at like 5 or something ridiculous. trips at like 10.
 
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