Do you believe the Browning M99 Barrett should be publicly available?

[loic2003]

Malak,
Just some highlights I'm gonna hit.
1. Switzerland - Lots of guns. Very, very little crime.
The swiss are much less of a 'whup your ass, yee haa' sort of people. They are very subdued. Essentially it's completely different culture who are more responsible. difficult to compare really. It's like comparing thai people to iraqis.

1a. The mere presence of guns does not create crimes nor criminals.
It helps though.

2. Gun violence in the US has gone down in the past decade.
Interesting point. Why has this happened? Much, much, stricter policing because of 9/11 or because more people have guns?

3. Gun violence in the UK has gone up in the past decade.
It was very low before hand so a couple of deaths per year is statistically going to be a much higher jump that it really is. Secondly, yeah, there are more gun crimes, but do you think it would go down if everyone was armed? I'd rather see tighter border control and policing. It's like handing everyone a knife as they get onto a plane in the airport just in case some criminal has smuggled on a weapon. It's an absolutley stupid idea.

3a. Gun laws in the UK have never been stricter.
Yet they need to be stricter still. Interestingly you can go shooting in england, but you keep your weapons in a safe at the club. That way little jonny doesn't blow his brains out, and dodgy dave doesn't manage to commit suicide. Three months later, after some councelling and dave is reformed and no longer suicidal. Great news

3b. Guns are being smuggled in by gangs and much of the violence is drug related
Tighter border controls required

4. In the US 90% of guns used to commit crimes were obtained illegally
ALL of them smuggled in? Nope. Many stolen from people. Having guns in circulation, despite being owned by nice (always stable) good clean americans, adds to gun crime.

4a. Of that 90% only about 10% were stolen (either from a store or from a private residence)
Source please. So, you could effectively reduce gun crimes by 10% if people had to keep their weapons in safes at a local armory/gun club.

5. Gun crime (as well as most crime) is largely a symptom of socioeconomic problems. Wanna lower the crime rates? Address the source of the problem, not the symptom.
Yeah... 'guns don't kill people, people do.'. Thing is.... the gun does kinda help though, doesn't it?


As for the home defense needing a gun thing. What's that about other than modern US paranoia? Are these people trying to rob you? In which case they'll not bother risking their lives and will simply wait until you're out. You'll arrive home, realise you've been robbed, and your guns are missing. You'll have a little cry about it, then buy a bigger gun 'for next time'.
Are these people breaking into your house for some kind of revenge? Why wouldn't they just kill you on the street, or ring your doorbell and cap you when you open it?
Are they just mental and are trying to kill you for the sake of it? Well best of luck to you. Personally, if that's the reason I'm buying a gun, I'd rather put some armour on my door and better locks. You think having a gun fight is a better defense than sitting in an armoured, locked room? Also, do you sleep with the gun under your pillow or something? If not, this mysterious intruder who's decided to randomly attack you will certainly have the element of suprise. good luck to you and your family as you unlock your gun from the cabinate as some nutcase is spraying bullets through your stud walls.
Essentially, the argument for 'home defense' is a weak one. Who really is going to break into your home at night and come upstairs to try and kill you? Paranoid much?

Bottom line. It's a penis thing. "Hua! lets go shoot some sh!t! hell yeah! woo!"

 

[nfamous]

Originally posted by: loic2003

5. Gun crime (as well as most crime) is largely a symptom of socioeconomic problems. Wanna lower the crime rates? Address the source of the problem, not the symptom.
Yeah... 'guns don't kill people, people do.'. Thing is.... the gun does kinda help though, doesn't it?


As for the home defense needing a gun thing. What's that about other than modern US paranoia?
Who really is going to break into your home at night and come upstairs to try and kill you?Paranoid much?

Bottom line. It's a penis thing. "Hua! lets go shoot some sh!t! hell yeah! woo!"

Guns help, yes... But we have always found ways to kill. If guns were banned, what next? Knives? Until the problem of evil is dealt with....it won't matter what items are made illegal. I can see my future kids asking me what it was like to cut your own food :disgust:

Home defense? Chances are I will never use a gun in defense, and I hope I never need to. It's there for the same reason that I have life insurance. I don't plan on certain things happening, but I have it just in case.

It's not a penis thing. It's about standing your ground, and defending what you love (things, people, or your life....etc). At least for me and the gun owners I know.

 

[imported_hscorpio]

Originally posted by: loic2003

As for the home defense needing a gun thing. What's that about other than modern US paranoia? Are these people trying to rob you? In which case they'll not bother risking their lives and will simply wait until you're out. You'll arrive home, realise you've been robbed, and your guns are missing. You'll have a little cry about it, then buy a bigger gun 'for next time'.
Are these people breaking into your house for some kind of revenge? Why wouldn't they just kill you on the street, or ring your doorbell and cap you when you open it?
Are they just mental and are trying to kill you for the sake of it? Well best of luck to you. Personally, if that's the reason I'm buying a gun, I'd rather put some armour on my door and better locks. You think having a gun fight is a better defense than sitting in an armoured, locked room? Also, do you sleep with the gun under your pillow or something? If not, this mysterious intruder who's decided to randomly attack you will certainly have the element of suprise. good luck to you and your family as you unlock your gun from the cabinate as some nutcase is spraying bullets through your stud walls.
Essentially, the argument for 'home defense' is a weak one. Who really is going to break into your home at night and come upstairs to try and kill you? Paranoid much?

Bottom line. It's a penis thing. "Hua! lets go shoot some sh!t! hell yeah! woo!"

This is just nonsense. People will always have a need and a right to defend themselves and their property. In the worst case scenario the best defensive weapon to have is a gun. Period. Its why cops use them, its why criminals use them too. They are effective.

If you want to live your life care free about the possibility that some random lowlife just might target you for whatever crime then fine good for you. But some of us choose to be a little more cautious and like to have a means of defending/protecting ourselves if we ever need to. So why get your panties in a wad?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: UNESC0
So does anyone else other than mugs have an opinion on this issue? Although the "it's my right" argument is totally valid, is that the sole reason why so many Americans have personal firearms? Because the constitution allows for it?

That's not "why" I own a gun, I own a gun because I enjoy shooting guns. I don't anticipate ever using my gun for home defense though. For one, it's a bolt-action rifle. And it'd be pretty difficult to use for self-defense when I keep the gun, the magazine and the bullets in three different places. 🙂 Target shooting is a really enjoyable activity, unfortunately I have no place to do it where I live now.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: loic2003
Malak,
Just some highlights I'm gonna hit.
1. Switzerland - Lots of guns. Very, very little crime.
The swiss are much less of a 'whup your ass, yee haa' sort of people. They are very subdued. Essentially it's completely different culture who are more responsible. difficult to compare really. It's like comparing thai people to iraqis.

At least you recognize that it's not the guns that are the problem, it's the people. Maybe we shouldn't outlaw the gun, we should outlaw the people who use them to commit crimes. 😉

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: loic2003
As for the home defense needing a gun thing. What's that about other than modern US paranoia? Are these people trying to rob you? In which case they'll not bother risking their lives and will simply wait until you're out. You'll arrive home, realise you've been robbed, and your guns are missing. You'll have a little cry about it, then buy a bigger gun 'for next time'.
Are these people breaking into your house for some kind of revenge? Why wouldn't they just kill you on the street, or ring your doorbell and cap you when you open it?
Are they just mental and are trying to kill you for the sake of it? Well best of luck to you. Personally, if that's the reason I'm buying a gun, I'd rather put some armour on my door and better locks. You think having a gun fight is a better defense than sitting in an armoured, locked room? Also, do you sleep with the gun under your pillow or something? If not, this mysterious intruder who's decided to randomly attack you will certainly have the element of suprise. good luck to you and your family as you unlock your gun from the cabinate as some nutcase is spraying bullets through your stud walls.
Essentially, the argument for 'home defense' is a weak one. Who really is going to break into your home at night and come upstairs to try and kill you? Paranoid much?

Bottom line. It's a penis thing. "Hua! lets go shoot some sh!t! hell yeah! woo!"

Yes, because you know EXACTLY what is going on in my neighborhood right now. There have been a string of incidents lately (over the past 6-8 months) where there have been home invasions. These people will wait until you are home to come and rob you, assault you, and possibly kill you. They will literally knock on your door, posing as some sort of solicitor whatever, and then try to storm your house. Or they will try to break in through a window while you're watching TV. The robberies have been happening while people are in their houses.

And it's pretty easy to have a shotgun for quick accessibility. Shotgun is under the bed. Ammunition is in a locked box next to it under the bed. Key to the safe is on my keys, which are on the chair that's right next to my bed.

But yes, keep on talking about the situation like you know something. It's amusing.

 

[Softballslug]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Malak
No guns should be for sale.

I agree. They should be government issued to all law-abiding, non-felons.

while i wouldn't go that far, because anyone could turn into a criminal at any second and at least the gun wouldn't be readily available, but i think everyone should take a class or be instructed on how to handle a firearm safely and how to use one. i bet we would have a lot less people being shot accidentally.

Just like we do for people driving cars huh???? If we did that I bet we would have less people getting killed in car wrecks...

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: nfamous

Originally posted by: loic2003

5. Gun crime (as well as most crime) is largely a symptom of socioeconomic problems. Wanna lower the crime rates? Address the source of the problem, not the symptom.
Yeah... 'guns don't kill people, people do.'. Thing is.... the gun does kinda help though, doesn't it?


As for the home defense needing a gun thing. What's that about other than modern US paranoia?
Who really is going to break into your home at night and come upstairs to try and kill you?Paranoid much?

Bottom line. It's a penis thing. "Hua! lets go shoot some sh!t! hell yeah! woo!"

Guns help, yes... But we have always found ways to kill. If guns were banned, what next? Knives? Until the problem of evil is dealt with....it won't matter what items are made illegal. I can see my future kids asking me what it was like to cut your own food :disgust:

Home defense? Chances are I will never use a gun in defense, and I hope I never need to. It's there for the same reason that I have life insurance. I don't plan on certain things happening, but I have it just in case.

It's not a penis thing. It's about standing your ground, and defending what you love (things, people, or your life....etc). At least for me and the gun owners I know.

exactly, i could go kill someone with a knife - ban knives (steak, butter, every kind). so i go and bludgeon you to death with a baseball bat - ban baseball bats. then i got out and kill you with a hammer or any other tool - ban tools. i strangle you with my shoelace - ban shoelaces. i break a tree branch off a tree and bludgeon you with or sharpen it on a rock or just bash your skull in with a rock. ban trees and rocks. i could strangle you with my bare hands - cut off everyone's hands.

do you see a pattern? banning the things that can do harm is not the answer, as yuo can see, there are many ways to kill someone with items that are not meant o be used to kill with.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: loic2003
Malak,
Just some highlights I'm gonna hit.
1. Switzerland - Lots of guns. Very, very little crime.
The swiss are much less of a 'whup your ass, yee haa' sort of people. They are very subdued. Essentially it's completely different culture who are more responsible. difficult to compare really. It's like comparing thai people to iraqis.

1a. The mere presence of guns does not create crimes nor criminals.
It helps though.

2. Gun violence in the US has gone down in the past decade.
Interesting point. Why has this happened? Much, much, stricter policing because of 9/11 or because more people have guns?

3. Gun violence in the UK has gone up in the past decade.
It was very low before hand so a couple of deaths per year is statistically going to be a much higher jump that it really is. Secondly, yeah, there are more gun crimes, but do you think it would go down if everyone was armed? I'd rather see tighter border control and policing. It's like handing everyone a knife as they get onto a plane in the airport just in case some criminal has smuggled on a weapon. It's an absolutley stupid idea.

3a. Gun laws in the UK have never been stricter.
Yet they need to be stricter still. Interestingly you can go shooting in england, but you keep your weapons in a safe at the club. That way little jonny doesn't blow his brains out, and dodgy dave doesn't manage to commit suicide. Three months later, after some councelling and dave is reformed and no longer suicidal. Great news

3b. Guns are being smuggled in by gangs and much of the violence is drug related
Tighter border controls required

4. In the US 90% of guns used to commit crimes were obtained illegally
ALL of them smuggled in? Nope. Many stolen from people. Having guns in circulation, despite being owned by nice (always stable) good clean americans, adds to gun crime.

4a. Of that 90% only about 10% were stolen (either from a store or from a private residence)
Source please. So, you could effectively reduce gun crimes by 10% if people had to keep their weapons in safes at a local armory/gun club.

5. Gun crime (as well as most crime) is largely a symptom of socioeconomic problems. Wanna lower the crime rates? Address the source of the problem, not the symptom.
Yeah... 'guns don't kill people, people do.'. Thing is.... the gun does kinda help though, doesn't it?

1a. Because you know the exact demographics of everyone in the US who owns a gun? Or you're just pulling stereotypes out of your arse because you saw a bunch of hicks on TV?

1b. Not really. Guns are used as an accessory to most crimes and with criminals. Even if guns were banned, criminals would still find a way to get to them, because they need them. It's that simple.

2. Much much stricter policing of guns? Because the AWB, the supposed only thing that was keeping Americans from having a full out automatic and semi-automatic assault weapon war, wasn't renewed. Yet here we are, still alive and kicking.

3a. If a person wants to committ suicide, they are going to do it. Poor Dave probably would've just gone down to the Pharmacy, and OD'ed on booze and sleeping pills if he didn't have a gun to use. People use guns because they're effective in that it's hard to botch a suicide with them. If someone wants to die, they are going to kill themselves. Period.

3b. With what money? Do you realize how many billions, possibly trillions of dollars it would take to lock down the borders to the degree that would be needed to stop the smuggling of goods into the US? It is simple not possible. Not to mention the problems that would create with countries that legally import and export goods.

4. I don't have any statistics to make an accurate assessment.

4a. If those 10% of guns were locked up in one place, it would make it much easier to steal guns. All criminals would have to do is acquire the resources (automatic weapons and armor) to rob the place. Banks have money stored in safes, but they get robbed too, don't they? Not to mention the money they could get for these guns, since the gun laws would create an unbelievable black market for these goods.

5. Sure a gun helps. So do knives, cars, baseball bats, and every other thing that can be used to kill people.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
The Browning Barrett M99 .50 cal sniper rifle is expected to soon be publicly available for sale. Do you think it should? While the gun would be cool 😉 who really needs a single fire gun that huge? I'm sure most laws would keep you from being able to hunt with it all while making the sniper shootings much easier to do. (Although, they would know from what direction you shot from a mile away)

why souhln't it be available?

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
The Browning Barrett M99 .50 cal sniper rifle is expected to soon be publicly available for sale. Do you think it should? While the gun would be cool 😉 who really needs a single fire gun that huge? I'm sure most laws would keep you from being able to hunt with it all while making the sniper shootings much easier to do. (Although, they would know from what direction you shot from a mile away)

why souhln't it be available?

Why were half the things under the AWB actually banned?

 

[Gravity]

Originally posted by: bmacd
yes yes and yes. Being a military guy, i'm all for having more guns readily available, however, it won't be long before this is in the hands of the wrong person.

-=bmacd=-

You assume that the "wrong guys" don't have access to this or similar weapons?

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: loic2003
Malak,
Just some highlights I'm gonna hit.
1. Switzerland - Lots of guns. Very, very little crime.
The swiss are much less of a 'whup your ass, yee haa' sort of people. They are very subdued. Essentially it's completely different culture who are more responsible. difficult to compare really. It's like comparing thai people to iraqis.

1a. The mere presence of guns does not create crimes nor criminals.
It helps though.

2. Gun violence in the US has gone down in the past decade.
Interesting point. Why has this happened? Much, much, stricter policing because of 9/11 or because more people have guns?

3. Gun violence in the UK has gone up in the past decade.
It was very low before hand so a couple of deaths per year is statistically going to be a much higher jump that it really is. Secondly, yeah, there are more gun crimes, but do you think it would go down if everyone was armed? I'd rather see tighter border control and policing. It's like handing everyone a knife as they get onto a plane in the airport just in case some criminal has smuggled on a weapon. It's an absolutley stupid idea.

3a. Gun laws in the UK have never been stricter.
Yet they need to be stricter still. Interestingly you can go shooting in england, but you keep your weapons in a safe at the club. That way little jonny doesn't blow his brains out, and dodgy dave doesn't manage to commit suicide. Three months later, after some councelling and dave is reformed and no longer suicidal. Great news

3b. Guns are being smuggled in by gangs and much of the violence is drug related
Tighter border controls required

4. In the US 90% of guns used to commit crimes were obtained illegally
ALL of them smuggled in? Nope. Many stolen from people. Having guns in circulation, despite being owned by nice (always stable) good clean americans, adds to gun crime.

4a. Of that 90% only about 10% were stolen (either from a store or from a private residence)
Source please. So, you could effectively reduce gun crimes by 10% if people had to keep their weapons in safes at a local armory/gun club.

5. Gun crime (as well as most crime) is largely a symptom of socioeconomic problems. Wanna lower the crime rates? Address the source of the problem, not the symptom.
Yeah... 'guns don't kill people, people do.'. Thing is.... the gun does kinda help though, doesn't it?


As for the home defense needing a gun thing. What's that about other than modern US paranoia? Are these people trying to rob you? In which case they'll not bother risking their lives and will simply wait until you're out. You'll arrive home, realise you've been robbed, and your guns are missing. You'll have a little cry about it, then buy a bigger gun 'for next time'.
Are these people breaking into your house for some kind of revenge? Why wouldn't they just kill you on the street, or ring your doorbell and cap you when you open it?
Are they just mental and are trying to kill you for the sake of it? Well best of luck to you. Personally, if that's the reason I'm buying a gun, I'd rather put some armour on my door and better locks. You think having a gun fight is a better defense than sitting in an armoured, locked room? Also, do you sleep with the gun under your pillow or something? If not, this mysterious intruder who's decided to randomly attack you will certainly have the element of suprise. good luck to you and your family as you unlock your gun from the cabinate as some nutcase is spraying bullets through your stud walls.
Essentially, the argument for 'home defense' is a weak one. Who really is going to break into your home at night and come upstairs to try and kill you? Paranoid much?

Bottom line. It's a penis thing. "Hua! lets go shoot some sh!t! hell yeah! woo!"

Turn the UK into a totalitarian state and what you propose can be done.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: UNESC0
it's interesting that so many people justify gun ownership as a method for defending oneself against an armed intruder...

does anyone have statistics from rather current sources of home invasions that are comitted with a weapon? Those that are repelled because a homeowner has a weapon?

I'm all for gun ownership as a sport. I enjoy firing off a few rounds now and then on an old .22 my father has, but to seriously consider that as an only means of defence? Isn't that the job of police forces? Are response times that bad that a 911 call won't be answered in a relatively timely manner?

I have a lot of questions as a Canadian looking inwards at American society and gun control... there's many more guns per capita here in Canada and in fact Toronto is going through some gun troubles right now (something like 70 murders this year, about 15 more than usual) but people are looking at the police to step-up presence on the streets, not arming themselves.

Anyways, I'd hope to get some real responses by responsible gun owners here - I just may join you in the future (although not with a .50 😛)

Sometime in the past few years (I dont remember which year) for a 1 year period guns were used more then 2 million times to protect life and property.
2 million.

Compare that to the number of gun related deaths. Guns save lives. Its really that simple. That was 2 million potential rape victims, 2 million potential murder victims.
Rather then be a victim, they took personal responsibility for themselves and defended their lives on their own.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: misle

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: misle
You do realize that .50 cal rifles are already for sale, right? My father has been deer hunting with a .50 cal black powder rifle for ages, so I don't see how selling this .50 cal is any different.

I would think that there's a significant difference between a black powder rifle and a bolt-action rifle.

Really? How so?

I was under the impression that it takes much longer to load a black powder rifle versus a bolt action rifle. Up to a minute I believe for the black powder?

If I'm wrong, I apologize. I'm really not too familiar with black powder rifles.

Theres a huge difference between a .50 black powder and a current .50 bolt action.

It would be like saying a .22LR and AR15 are the same thing because there both .22 caliber.

 

[loic2003]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: nfamous

Originally posted by: loic2003

5. Gun crime (as well as most crime) is largely a symptom of socioeconomic problems. Wanna lower the crime rates? Address the source of the problem, not the symptom.
Yeah... 'guns don't kill people, people do.'. Thing is.... the gun does kinda help though, doesn't it?


As for the home defense needing a gun thing. What's that about other than modern US paranoia?
Who really is going to break into your home at night and come upstairs to try and kill you?Paranoid much?

Bottom line. It's a penis thing. "Hua! lets go shoot some sh!t! hell yeah! woo!"

Guns help, yes... But we have always found ways to kill. If guns were banned, what next? Knives? Until the problem of evil is dealt with....it won't matter what items are made illegal. I can see my future kids asking me what it was like to cut your own food :disgust:

Home defense? Chances are I will never use a gun in defense, and I hope I never need to. It's there for the same reason that I have life insurance. I don't plan on certain things happening, but I have it just in case.

It's not a penis thing. It's about standing your ground, and defending what you love (things, people, or your life....etc). At least for me and the gun owners I know.

exactly, i could go kill someone with a knife - ban knives (steak, butter, every kind). so i go and bludgeon you to death with a baseball bat - ban baseball bats. then i got out and kill you with a hammer or any other tool - ban tools. i strangle you with my shoelace - ban shoelaces. i break a tree branch off a tree and bludgeon you with or sharpen it on a rock or just bash your skull in with a rock. ban trees and rocks. i could strangle you with my bare hands - cut off everyone's hands.

do you see a pattern? banning the things that can do harm is not the answer, as yuo can see, there are many ways to kill someone with items that are not meant o be used to kill with.

Whilst I've enjoyed everyones answers, this one has been the best (read: dumbest).

Is a knife a killing tool? no. you use it to cut steaks, butter, etc just as you've said. Same goes with tools. These are *tools* designed with other objectives rather than killing. Stop being stupid. Same goes for cars, incidentally.

Guns are designed to kill. Yes you can use them for target practice, but you'll find that guns were originally meant to kill.

Also, the above implements are far less lethal than a gun. Lets do an imaginary test here: first off we'll have a fight, I'll have a baseball bat, you'll be unarmed. Given that you're a wuss, you'll have every chance to run away and the best I could do is run after you and throw my bat.
Lets do the same again, but I'll have a 9mm pistol. What happens this time? that's right.. I can shoot you as you run away. You see how the weapons differ? That's right. One is a lethal projectile weapon (that's the gun), the other is a tool for playing a popular sport.

Comparing them exposes your myopic view of this entire debate.

Take care.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
The Browning Barrett M99 .50 cal sniper rifle is expected to soon be publicly available for sale. Do you think it should? While the gun would be cool 😉 who really needs a single fire gun that huge? I'm sure most laws would keep you from being able to hunt with it all while making the sniper shootings much easier to do. (Although, they would know from what direction you shot from a mile away)

why souhln't it be available?

Why were half the things under the AWB actually banned?

That is simple. Liberals do not care about effectiveness or the truth, they base everything on how people "feel" or how things "look". Data and reality are never even considered.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: thecoolnessrune
The Browning Barrett M99 .50 cal sniper rifle is expected to soon be publicly available for sale. Do you think it should? While the gun would be cool 😉 who really needs a single fire gun that huge? I'm sure most laws would keep you from being able to hunt with it all while making the sniper shootings much easier to do. (Although, they would know from what direction you shot from a mile away)

why souhln't it be available?

Why were half the things under the AWB actually banned?

That is simple. Liberals do not care about effectiveness or the truth, they base everything on how people "feel" or how things "look". Data and reality are never even considered.

Or if the liberals do consider reality at all they just shove it under the rug and attempt to live in their fairytale land

Ban guns, find a gun to your head. U ask where the crook got it, he's like hehe thats what the black market is for. If you don't ban guns and you own one, next time someone has a gun to your head a family member could save your life.

 

[SparkyJJO]

You are walking down the street with your wife and two kids. Suddenly this man jumps out and rushes at you, screaming, with a knife in his hand. You have a gun. What do you do?

Liberal responses:

1. Maybe if I just talk to him he'll stop and realize what he's doing is wrong.
2. Maybe I can hold onto his heel and hope that my family can get away.
3. Maybe I can use this gun to - wait, what am I doing with this thing anyway?!!?!
4. I should throw this gun at him, hopefully knocking the knife out of his hand.
5. Maybe he isn't really attacking my family, maybe he is just happy to see us.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
You are walking down the street with your wife and two kids. Suddenly this man jumps out and rushes at you, screaming, with a knife in his hand. You have a gun. What do you do?

Liberal responses:

1. Maybe if I just talk to him he'll stop and realize what he's doing is wrong.
2. Maybe I can hold onto his heel and hope that my family can get away.
3. Maybe I can use this gun to - wait, what am I doing with this thing anyway?!!?!
4. I should throw this gun at him, hopefully knocking the knife out of his hand.
5. Maybe he isn't really attacking my family, maybe he is just happy to see us.

Conservative answer:

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Phoenix86]

I see no mention of hunting in the second admendment, what's that got to do with anything? I'm always confused by the "it's used for hunting" response to guns.

Criminals already don't care about the law, that's why they are criminals.

 

[iamtrout]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
You are walking down the street with your wife and two kids. Suddenly this man jumps out and rushes at you, screaming, with a knife in his hand. You have a gun. What do you do?

Liberal responses:

1. Maybe if I just talk to him he'll stop and realize what he's doing is wrong.
2. Maybe I can hold onto his heel and hope that my family can get away.
3. Maybe I can use this gun to - wait, what am I doing with this thing anyway?!!?!
4. I should throw this gun at him, hopefully knocking the knife out of his hand.
5. Maybe he isn't really attacking my family, maybe he is just happy to see us.

Conservative answer:

BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!

My answer:

Take the gun and shoot him in the gut or lungs. As he's on the ground take his knife and force one of your children to slit his throat, and the other one to cut off his genitalia and stick a ball into each of the guy's empty eye sockets, curtousy of your wife's high heels. Then go get some bubble gum for the family.

 

[loic2003]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
You are walking down the street with your wife and two kids. Suddenly this man jumps out and rushes at you, screaming, with a knife in his hand. You have a gun. What do you do?

Liberal responses:

1. Maybe if I just talk to him he'll stop and realize what he's doing is wrong.
2. Maybe I can hold onto his heel and hope that my family can get away.
3. Maybe I can use this gun to - wait, what am I doing with this thing anyway?!!?!
4. I should throw this gun at him, hopefully knocking the knife out of his hand.
5. Maybe he isn't really attacking my family, maybe he is just happy to see us.

Today in the headline news: One mental patient suddenly had an outburst and for no particular reason decided to attack some guy and his kids. Unfortunately, the nutcase lived in america and had a gun anyway and so the father was forced to fight a gun battle with his two kids next to him. Sadly, one child was hit in the crossfire, from which gun the forensics have yet to find.

In similar worldwide news, a mental patient decided to attack a man and his two kids, this time in the UK. Thankfully the patient was only armed with a knife. Despite some fairly serious cuts, the father was able to restrain the maniac with the help of some members of the public.

 

[iamtrout]

Originally posted by: loic2003

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
You are walking down the street with your wife and two kids. Suddenly this man jumps out and rushes at you, screaming, with a knife in his hand. You have a gun. What do you do?

Liberal responses:

1. Maybe if I just talk to him he'll stop and realize what he's doing is wrong.
2. Maybe I can hold onto his heel and hope that my family can get away.
3. Maybe I can use this gun to - wait, what am I doing with this thing anyway?!!?!
4. I should throw this gun at him, hopefully knocking the knife out of his hand.
5. Maybe he isn't really attacking my family, maybe he is just happy to see us.

Today in the headline news: One mental patient suddenly had an outburst and for no particular reason decided to attack some guy and his kids. Unfortunately, the nutcase lived in america and had a gun anyway and so the father was forced to fight a gun battle with his two kids next to him. Sadly, one child was hit in the crossfire, from which gun the forensics have yet to find.

In similar worldwide news, a mental patient decided to attack a man and his two kids, this time in the UK. Thankfully the patient was only armed with a knife. Despite some fairly serious cuts, the father was able to restrain the maniac with the help of some members of the public.

I prefer the former. By FAR.

 

[Toonces]

not to feed the flames but an interesting news article out of the current Canadian election:

Liberals vow to ban handguns

Now remember this the Canadian political party "Liberals" not the stereotyped american view. They are actually rather conservative fiscally but progressive socially.

Anyways, this gave me a laugh this morning. Banning handguns is rediculous.. read the entire article as well - they propose to give owners money as compensation for giving them up. Wow, opportunistic electioneering at its finest. 😱