Do you believe that man and the dinosaurs lived at the same time?

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Enig101

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Harvey
For me, religion is useless. I'll stick with science.
Science does not contradict my religious beliefs.
He didn't say science contradicts all religion. He said that when it does, religious people tend to turn a blind eye.
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Harvey
For me, religion is useless. I'll stick with science.

Science does not contradict my religious beliefs.

But it does make you a hypocrite. The two can not coexist. With one perspective you seek all information that contradcits your current perspective. With the other you ignore all evidence that contradicts you current perspective. If i had to write a definition of hypocrite that would be it.
 

Strk

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Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Harvey
For me, religion is useless. I'll stick with science.

Science does not contradict my religious beliefs.

But it does make you a hypocrite. The two can not coexist. With one perspective you seek all information that contradcits your current perspective. With the other you ignore all evidence that contradicts you current perspective. If i had to write a definition of hypocrite that would be it.

The problem is too many, fundamentalists of both sides (really, I don't know a term that would work for those who say science nullifies all) simply insist that each cannot coexist. The idea that one cannot believe in both science and religion is foolish.

I don't see science contradicting any of my religious beliefs, nor my faith contradicting any of my views on science; then again, I don't take the bible literally.

And for the record, I fully believe in evolution and that the universe is several billion years old.
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Harvey
For me, religion is useless. I'll stick with science.

Science does not contradict my religious beliefs.

But it does make you a hypocrite. The two can not coexist. With one perspective you seek all information that contradcits your current perspective. With the other you ignore all evidence that contradicts you current perspective. If i had to write a definition of hypocrite that would be it.

The problem is too many, fundamentalists of both sides (really, I don't know a term that would work for those who say science nullifies all) simply insist that each cannot coexist. The idea that one cannot believe in both science and religion is foolish.

I don't see science contradicting any of my religious beliefs, nor my faith contradicting any of my views on science; then again, I don't take the bible literally.

And for the record, I fully believe in evolution and that the universe is several billion years old.

Nice avoidance. How about addressing my post? How do you internally resolve your hypocrisy? Or are you a cafeteria christian, picking and choosing whatever you, and you alone deem "comfortable."
 

XMan

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Originally posted by: techs
For those who take the Bible literally do you believe that man and dinosaur lived at the same time?
I saw an evangelical Christian saying this on t.v. the other night.
I was just wondering who believes it and how you reconcile it with the scientific evidence.

Could you find for me the part of the Bible where it talks about dinosaurs?

Before you blast people's beliefs perhaps you should look at what exactly it is that they believe.

Some Christians handle snakes. Others practice polygamy, eschew haircuts and dancing, and dress in somber colors. That doesn't make it Scriptural, but rather means that there are many different types of beliefs in the Christian faith.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
2. There have been many cases where dinosaur prints and people prints have been found in the same area and dated to be the same age.

Name ONE such instance where this has been scientifically documented.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Harvey
For me, religion is useless. I'll stick with science.

Science does not contradict my religious beliefs.

But it does make you a hypocrite. The two can not coexist. With one perspective you seek all information that contradcits your current perspective. With the other you ignore all evidence that contradicts you current perspective. If i had to write a definition of hypocrite that would be it.


What? :laugh:

Can you please provide me an example of my hypocrisy? I assume you don't need any further info about me, you know, like what my religious beliefs are. ;)
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Harvey
For me, religion is useless. I'll stick with science.

Science does not contradict my religious beliefs.

But it does make you a hypocrite. The two can not coexist. With one perspective you seek all information that contradcits your current perspective. With the other you ignore all evidence that contradicts you current perspective. If i had to write a definition of hypocrite that would be it.


What? :laugh:

Can you please provide me an example of my hypocrisy? I assume you don't need any further info about me, you know, like what my religious beliefs are. ;)

But like some religious people he is very certain things are as he believes. He worship the logical system called science but uses no logic at all. Damned hypocrite.
 

Vic

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Where in the Bible does it say that men and dinosaurs lived at the same time? :confused:
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: homercles337
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Harvey
For me, religion is useless. I'll stick with science.

Science does not contradict my religious beliefs.

But it does make you a hypocrite. The two can not coexist. With one perspective you seek all information that contradcits your current perspective. With the other you ignore all evidence that contradicts you current perspective. If i had to write a definition of hypocrite that would be it.

Why are you people so devoutly ignorant? Do not claim to love science while you yourself ignore all the evidence that contradicts your current perspective. Science is an open-minded and inclusive religion based upon evidence and observation, and not the basis of your bigotry.

"For it is the chief characteristic of the religion of science that it works." -- Isaac Asimov
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Man and the dinosaurs have always lived together from the very first man.

I'm just curious. Supposedly, a "literal" interpretation of the Bible will tell us that man and the dinosaurs lived at the same time. Yet I've read the Bible and it says no such thing.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Man and the dinosaurs have always lived together from the very first man.

I'm just curious. Supposedly, a "literal" interpretation of the Bible will tell us that man and the dinosaurs lived at the same time. Yet I've read the Bible and it says no such thing.

Somewhere in there they mention an animal. Since there are dinosaur fossils, that animal was clearly a dinosaur. I think I read on a fundie site that the dinosaur could breathe fire, too.

Pretty awesome stuff, I'm done with science - young-earth here I come!
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Man and the dinosaurs have always lived together from the very first man.

I'm just curious. Supposedly, a "literal" interpretation of the Bible will tell us that man and the dinosaurs lived at the same time. Yet I've read the Bible and it says no such thing.

You remember, where Jesus (I think) says consider the sparrow, it toils not neither does it (what?) work. Birds ARE dinosaurs.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: Enig101
The Bible was written by human beings (inspired by God or otherwise). I think it's sort of a leap to assume that when they write "day" it is some unit of time that is not a day.

When it comes down to it, I would have thought the concept of time is largely meaningless to God.

really explain this then Einstein --
http://www.netrover.com/~numbers/bible-numbers-2a.html or this..
http://www.timelinescroll.com/html/earth_ages.html or this ...
http://www.theology.edu/ntintro/2pet.htm or this...
http://answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/docs/day_thousandyears.asp


can we say together to Enig 101 -- Open mouth unsert foot??
 

Seekermeister

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There is proof, of sorts, that man (of some kind) lived simutaneously, because of the tracks found at Dinosaur National Park, in Glen Rose Texas. The Bible mentions both the behemoth and leviathan, which by description sound to be akin to dinosaurs. However, I tend to believe that the dinosaurs came from a previous Earth age before Genesis.
 

Oxaqata

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Originally posted by: Seekermeister
Way off. It was dictated to Moses around 1446BC.

Yes, thats the Christian/Jewish belief but if I remember correctly most historians believe it was written in the 5th or 6th century BCE.
 

bsobel

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I think it's sort of a leap to assume that when they write "day" it is some unit of time that is not a day.

Have you ever heard the phrase 'back in Shakespears day (hint it's refering to a period of time, not a specific day)
 

bsobel

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Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Yes, I do.

In case you are interested, my reasoning goes something like this:

1. Dinosaur fossils have been found all over the world, confirming their existence in the past.
2. God created all animals, as well as humans, only days apart from each other, according to Genesis.

So, I can draw the conclusion that dinosaurs and man lived together at some point in history.

Your post made me cry, this website explaining your view made me weep.