Do you believe it?

[NoStateofMind]

Ok all over the news they are reporting that Pakistans government is saying Al Qaeda is responsible for killing Bhutto. I don't, for one second, believe this shite!

Musharraf has the motive and should be investigated.

I also hear they did no autopsy.

They cleared the street with firehoses. Essentially removing any attempt at forensics.

It smells of another military dictator trying to retain power and we continue to support them. Hopefully this action changes that.

 

[maddogchen]

yes i do believe. But some part of me also thinks that Pakistan's intelligence agency helped the Al Qaeda operative get close enough.

 

[bamacre]

"If you harbor terrorists, you are a terrorist." - GWB

And yet how many billions of dollars have we given Pakistan since OBL has been there?

This is some fucked up foreign policy we have.

 

[GrGr]

Aye pretty much what Maddog said. It may have been AQ that were the executioners, but Musharaf's power structure is very complicated. He has to bow to many masters to remain alive. But in return he has many strings he can pull. It is no secret he has deep ties into radical elements in Pakistan. And he certainly had a clear motive.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: bamacre
"If you harbor terrorists, you are a terrorist." - GWB

And yet how many billions of dollars have we given Pakistan since OBL has been there?

This is some fucked up foreign policy we have.

You're assuming that our goal is to fight terrorism. I think that's obviously not the case, terrorism just provides a really convenient excuse for all the things various people wanted to do anyways. From rearranging our foreign policy to shredding the constitution, terrorism is a really good justification...but I don't think a lot of folks are really interested in fighting it.

 

[Lemon law]

We may never know who killed Cock Robin. Lots of people and groups had motive and opportunity. And as the American police well know, anytime you have a high profile crime, nuts come out of the woodwork to confess.

One thing for sure, the suicide bomber who done it ain't gonna talk no matter how long he is water boarded.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Ok all over the news they are reporting that Pakistans government is saying Al Qaeda is responsible for killing Bhutto. I don't, for one second, believe this shite!

Musharraf has the motive and should be investigated.

I also hear they did no autopsy.

They cleared the street with firehoses. Essentially removing any attempt at forensics.

It smells of another military dictator trying to retain power and we continue to support them. Hopefully this action changes that.

Killing Bhutto gave the crazies further control of that nation. Once they have enough control then Musharraf will be killed. He may not be smart enough to know it, but her death brings him closer to his own.

Whereas the crazies had everything to gain, more chaos = more recruits = opportunity to take over the government and its nuclear weapons.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: bamacre
"If you harbor terrorists, you are a terrorist." - GWB

And yet how many billions of dollars have we given Pakistan since OBL has been there?

This is some fucked up foreign policy we have.

You are too smart to quote anything from GWB as anything besides a sideshow farce-statement There is a difference between harboring and ignoring or not putting in full effort to deal with or being unable to deal with!

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: maddogchen
yes i do believe. But some part of me also thinks that Pakistan's intelligence agency helped the Al Qaeda operative get close enough.

This is the correct answer.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: bamacre
"If you harbor terrorists, you are a terrorist." - GWB

And yet how many billions of dollars have we given Pakistan since OBL has been there?

This is some fucked up foreign policy we have.

You are too smart to quote anything from GWB as anything besides a sideshow farce-statement There is a difference between harboring and ignoring or not putting in full effort to deal with or being unable to deal with!

How would you Canadians like to have GWB for a year?

Please? Pretty please?

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: maddogchen
yes i do believe. But some part of me also thinks that Pakistan's intelligence agency helped the Al Qaeda operative get close enough.

This is the correct answer.

You have inside info we do not, Mr. Tatanka?

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: maddogchen
yes i do believe. But some part of me also thinks that Pakistan's intelligence agency helped the Al Qaeda operative get close enough.

This is the correct answer.

You have inside info we do not, Mr. Tatanka?

Wally told me.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: maddogchen
yes i do believe. But some part of me also thinks that Pakistan's intelligence agency helped the Al Qaeda operative get close enough.

This is the correct answer.

You have inside info we do not, Mr. Tatanka?

Wally told me.

:shocked:

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Pervez Musharraf
It was al-Qaeda.

I'm glad our friends in Pakistan are getting a grasp on American democracy.

Originally posted by: George W. Bush
It was al-Qaeda.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Ok all over the news they are reporting that Pakistans government is saying Al Qaeda is responsible for killing Bhutto. I don't, for one second, believe this shite!

Musharraf has the motive and should be investigated.

I also hear they did no autopsy.

They cleared the street with firehoses. Essentially removing any attempt at forensics.

It smells of another military dictator trying to retain power and we continue to support them. Hopefully this action changes that.

It was the Talibans, no question about that, i am not asking you to trust me but i reported it before it was on any news.

 

[Ronstang]

The truth is irrelevant these days. It is a dead concept. Most people only believe the "truth" if it reinforces their preconceived notions, if it doesn't then a conspiracy must be afoot.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: maddogchen
yes i do believe. But some part of me also thinks that Pakistan's intelligence agency helped the Al Qaeda operative get close enough.

That is to be expected by cocksuckers who would rather blame it on the people rather than on the ones who took the blame.

We saw a lot of that in Kosovo and Afghanistan too, dipshits like you who speculated.

What makes you think you have the expertise required to speculate?

I'm going to tell you to FOAD in a corner because the fight you want, the fight about christianity vs islam, is not going to happen.

You can ask anyone with any kind of military authority here and we'll all tell you the same thing.

It's not right and we trust the m as much as we do our own agencies, ask Palehorse, he knows more of this shit than i do.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Pervez Musharraf
It was al-Qaeda.

I'm glad our friends in Pakistan are getting a grasp on American democracy.

Originally posted by: George W. Bush
It was al-Qaeda.

You go to Tchad which is where i am going next and pull a gun and i promise you, i'll make you go vertigo before you even touch it.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Topic Title: Do you believe it?
Topic Summary: Pervez Musharraf government says "it was Al Qaeda"

You're all entitled to your opinions, but I believe no one, especially on this continent, has enough info to do anything more than speculate about who did it. It will be some time before we know who was behind it, if ever.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Topic Title: Do you believe it?
Topic Summary: Pervez Musharraf government says "it was Al Qaeda"

You're all entitled to your opinions, but I believe no one, especially on this continent, has enough info to do anything more than speculate about who did it. It will be some time before we know who was behind it, if ever.

Then you do not mind me saying that the news i posted (before i should have) have been confirmed three times and one time by tape?

It was teh Taliban and no sane man would expect anything but them.

It's not opinion anymore.

We really need to eradicate them and i for one, for some reason, would like you to understand that.

They are few and they are evil.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Then you do not mind me saying that the news i posted (before i should have) have been confirmed three times and one time by tape?

It was teh Taliban and no sane man would expect anything but them.

I don't mind you saying it, but I have no reason to take your word for it. As others have pointed out, Musharraf had plenty of motive, and a long history of dealing with his political opponents as only a military dictator can. Let's see...

• How many DAYS has it been since he lifted the state of emergency?
  
• How many judges did he remove from the Pakistani Supreme Court because they would have ruled against his bid to run for President while still head of their army?
  
• How many others were jailed under his orders so he could hold onto power?

It's not opinion anymore.

I agree that the Taliban and Al Qaeda are the most likely suspects, but based on what's really known, I wouldn't dignify what you posted as being up to the standards of a decent opinion, let alone a supportable statement of fact. Do you have some secret inside source?

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Topic Title: Do you believe it?
Topic Summary: Pervez Musharraf government says "it was Al Qaeda"

You're all entitled to your opinions, but I believe no one, especially on this continent, has enough info to do anything more than speculate about who did it. It will be some time before we know who was behind it, if ever.

Then you do not mind me saying that the news i posted (before i should have) have been confirmed three times and one time by tape?

It was teh Taliban and no sane man would expect anything but them.

It's not opinion anymore.

We really need to eradicate them and i for one, for some reason, would like you to understand that.

They are few and they are evil.

So you have an inside source to inaccurate news. Hell I can get that from fox.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Topic Title: Do you believe it?
Topic Summary: Pervez Musharraf government says "it was Al Qaeda"

You're all entitled to your opinions, but I believe no one, especially on this continent, has enough info to do anything more than speculate about who did it. It will be some time before we know who was behind it, if ever.

Then you do not mind me saying that the news i posted (before i should have) have been confirmed three times and one time by tape?

It was teh Taliban and no sane man would expect anything but them.

It's not opinion anymore.

We really need to eradicate them and i for one, for some reason, would like you to understand that.

They are few and they are evil.

So you have an inside source to inaccurate news. Hell I can get that from fox.

:laugh:

 

[Caecus Veritas]

yah, i believe it just as much as bush telling us to trust him...

 

[GrGr]

Do you make a distinction between the Taliban and AQ, JoS?