skulkingghost
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Yes. When we lived in this particular apartment, every night around 3am, I could hear someone walking outside my bedroom window and making sounds a stick - like someone walking with a stick being punched hard on the floor - (my bedroom window faced the parking area of the apartment). I never dared to look outside and just tried to sleep through it whenever I was awake during that time.
My parents bedroom (adjacent and window also facing the parking lot) never heard anything but they are mostly sound asleep during that time.
Once, I had an aunt who visited us and she slept in my room (i slept on the couch in living room that night) and next morning, she said that she couldnt sleep in my room and that she was hearing noises in my room. Again, my parents (right in next room never heard something). My aunt never dared to sleep in my room after that.
Now, that we have moved from that apartment, no such noises/sounds anymore. Also, that apartment was kind of unlucky for me/my family.
My parents bedroom (adjacent and window also facing the parking lot) never heard anything but they are mostly sound asleep during that time.
Once, I had an aunt who visited us and she slept in my room (i slept on the couch in living room that night) and next morning, she said that she couldnt sleep in my room and that she was hearing noises in my room. Again, my parents (right in next room never heard something). My aunt never dared to sleep in my room after that.
Now, that we have moved from that apartment, no such noises/sounds anymore. Also, that apartment was kind of unlucky for me/my family.
DefDC
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Heh... I had weird experience last year. I posted about it and was ridiculed, but I expected that. I live in a fairly NEW house(2000), but late one night, I was getting ready for bed and was brushing my teeth with the bathroom door open. I heard my wife say something to me from around the corner. I poked my head out and said "Huh?". And there was nobody there. I peeked in the bedroom, and she was asleep. There were no TVs, radios, or computers on.... It was definitely a female voice, and it was loud and close by. I didn't make out one word, or even know if it was English that she was speaking because I was brushing my teeth at the time. Very weird.
Also that year I was fishing in a boat in at a state park. I saw a UFO. Literally. I couldn't identify whatever shiny metallic craft was moving in the sky. I'm not saying it was an alien. I just have no idea what it was... Possibly a blimp (I live in South Bend, IN, home of Notre Dame) And maybe it was a weather balloon. However, it was traveling slowly, very high in the sky, and disappeared in the blink of an eye...
I'm a confirmed atheist, but have no hesitation in saying that what people may see/hear/feel as ghosts may be something that we don't understand yet. There's lots of strange stuff out there!
Also that year I was fishing in a boat in at a state park. I saw a UFO. Literally. I couldn't identify whatever shiny metallic craft was moving in the sky. I'm not saying it was an alien. I just have no idea what it was... Possibly a blimp (I live in South Bend, IN, home of Notre Dame) And maybe it was a weather balloon. However, it was traveling slowly, very high in the sky, and disappeared in the blink of an eye...
I'm a confirmed atheist, but have no hesitation in saying that what people may see/hear/feel as ghosts may be something that we don't understand yet. There's lots of strange stuff out there!
i don't believe in ghosts but i do enjoy watching ghost hunters.
i don't mind witnessing ghosts.
i don't mind witnessing ghosts.
skulkingghost
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angminas
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There are definitely spirits walking the earth, yes, but they are not human spirits. They are angels or demons. If it's somebody who's messing with your mind or scaring you, it's a demon. Or a human hoax, or ball lightning, or the difference between perception and reality, but not a dead person. As above, all dead humans are unconscious for now, though I don't believe in an eternity of hell. I believe that the lake of fire burns up the condemned and destroys them forever. For more of what the Bible says on that subject, here's a booklet called What Happens After Death?
I read that booklet, but it contradicts what the Bible does say about the eternality of hell (and the Bible does indicate that hell is forever. Even the term "lake of fire" (Gehenna), even mentioned in the booklet, was used as a metaphor for hell because Gehenna was essentially a garbage dump were refuse was continually and unceasingly burning. In Matthew 25:31-46 we see that when the Son of Man (Jesus Christ) comes in His glory, all the nations will be gathered to Him, and He will separate the people into 2 groups: those who are His sheep, and those who aren't (metaphorically, the "goats"). To His people He says,
"Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.? "
and to those who are not His people He says: "Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.? "
It's clear He's speaking here to people, and not to righteous angels or unrighteous angels (demons), since vs 31 says "nations" and the context makes it clear He's speaking to human beings - He's telling those people who are not His that they will face the same everlasting punishment in the lake of fire that does not cease to burn as the demons will.
In vs 44-46 He repeats the judgment in response to the questioning of the unrighteous who ask, "?Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You??"
And it says next:
"Then He will answer them, saying, ?Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.? And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.? There is clearly eternal life for the saved, but eternal death (death is separation, not going out of existence) for the unsaved.
Yes, the Bible does talk about peoples souls being destroyed in Hell, but when you take the entire Bible in it's context and compare scripture to scripture (because the Bible does not contradict itself) you see that the word "Destroy" doesn't mean to make something go completely out of existence. In fact, if you look at the Greek words translated "destroy" in English, you see that it means "to ruin by laying waste", or "to make havok of", or "to demolish". The destruction of a person in hell is one that goes on continually, like a dump being endlessly consumed by fire, or a burning bush that is not extinguished.
A question that has to asked as well is why are people going to Hell in the first place? The answer to that is also clearly found is scripture. Romans 6:23 says it: "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." The parable of the unforgiving servant also tells us why. In that parable (Matthew 18:21-35) we see that there is a servant who owed an enormous, even incomprehensibly large, debt (10,000 talents) which would today be the equivalent of owing someone the national debt of a medium to large sized country. What that parable is saying is that we sinners, because of sin, owe a huge debt to God, one so large that we cannot ever hope to pay ourselves. In fact, we know that no one could ever pay the debt of sin even if he or she had an eternity to live. That is why God sent His Son to die on the cross, for the sins of mankind, because if there were any way that the debt could be paid, why would God sacrifice His Son? And so the debt of sin is only canceled by those who have received the payment made on our behalves by the self-sacrifice of Jesus Christ, the very Son of God and God Himself. Our Saviour whose blood was of infinite value did not die for a finite debt, but an infinite one, otherwise His death would have not been necessary. And if the debt is infinitely large, then no fixed amount of time in Hell could ever pay it off for those who refuse to accept Christ's payment, but only an infinite amount of time suffering could. And that is why even the unredeemed will stay in existence forever, paying for their sins which they did not repent of.
The one where the guy is driving and a white wispy thing that looks sort of like the outline of a person crosses the road - that happened to me about a month ago. Scared the shit out of me because it just disappeared in the middle of the street, I thought it was a garbage bag at first. I voted no.
DarkThinker
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No, to me when a person passes away, his / her soul is separated from this world through a barrier none can pass back through nor communicate in any way with any human lest God wills it, and certainly God wills not the terror such permission would result unto his best of creations. However I do believe that Angels and Demons do roam around us and some of them stick with us our entire lives, however we can't see, feel or hear them. But if I do believe that there might be some credibility to some of the videos I saw, I am not denying that, however I don't think in case any of them had any truth to them that they would be ghosts of people who have passed before.
In my belief if it was any spirit it would be Jinn, they are the same spirits Prophet Solomon had control over and did things for him that humans were and still incapable of. physically. They are on rank below Angels and Demons w.r.t to their closeness to God and face similar fate as Humans (Either Hell or Heaven depending on each individual). They can take any form including human forms, but they are responsible directly for the consequences of their actions.
I used to seriously doubt that anyone in our time could harness the power of these beings, until my buddies taught me a trick, a magic trick if you will, we were 4 very light weight 14 year old students back in school, each of us using only 2 index fingers each, lifted to above shoulder level an almost 175kg man that's almost 385.8 lb!
Right after the trick, I was like this is fishy, I said to my buddies (being very skeptic) let's repeat this experiment but without the rituals and see if we can lift him same way and thereby invalidating the whole thing, we almost crapped our pants, we couldn't lift him an inch on 3 attempts.
I had it done on me, and when it's done you (absolutely no physical contact before lifting) you get this fuzzy feeling in your spine something unnatural, you feel a bit weightless and once they lift you shoot up, that was the only proof I had to see and feel and I think it was quiet convincing!
BTW: The video with the little girl in the hallway in it was the spookiest piece of film I ever seen!
In my belief if it was any spirit it would be Jinn, they are the same spirits Prophet Solomon had control over and did things for him that humans were and still incapable of. physically. They are on rank below Angels and Demons w.r.t to their closeness to God and face similar fate as Humans (Either Hell or Heaven depending on each individual). They can take any form including human forms, but they are responsible directly for the consequences of their actions.
I used to seriously doubt that anyone in our time could harness the power of these beings, until my buddies taught me a trick, a magic trick if you will, we were 4 very light weight 14 year old students back in school, each of us using only 2 index fingers each, lifted to above shoulder level an almost 175kg man that's almost 385.8 lb!
Right after the trick, I was like this is fishy, I said to my buddies (being very skeptic) let's repeat this experiment but without the rituals and see if we can lift him same way and thereby invalidating the whole thing, we almost crapped our pants, we couldn't lift him an inch on 3 attempts.
I had it done on me, and when it's done you (absolutely no physical contact before lifting) you get this fuzzy feeling in your spine something unnatural, you feel a bit weightless and once they lift you shoot up, that was the only proof I had to see and feel and I think it was quiet convincing!
BTW: The video with the little girl in the hallway in it was the spookiest piece of film I ever seen!
If ghosts really existed, there would be a heck of a lot more people seeing ghosts on a daily basis, seeing as though there are billions of people who have died on this earth before us. Think about it.
DarkThinker
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^They do sell earth entry credits, how good you are determines how many credits you get, now since most people end up in hell and the rest barely make to heaven there you go 
DangerAardvark
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I would love to see a ghost. Can you imagine what that would imply. Hell, if ghosts are real maybe I could go study at Hogwarts or party with Spud McKenzie.
destrekor
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that's a mind trick, and I doubt the subject was almost 400lb, that's fat. I mean, unless he at 7 1/2 feet tall, he was fat. Okay, maybe he was, doesn't change the point much:
its a trick. the first time you try it, your not ready, the subject doesn't know what to expect, and your not coordinated, nor do you think you have the strength. 4 people can easily lift somebody if they are focused, coordinated, and convinced.
the second try, the person will probably be stiff because he is scared, and the 4 people will be coordinated and have the convincing feeling they will be able to do the task with ease. and guess what, you are.
that third try, if there is one, the subject will again likely be loose, now realizing there really isn't much to be concerned with. and without using the coordinated effort and focus aid, the people lifting probably will be convinced they are only capable if doing the steps in the second trial, and thus the mind now makes you feel weaker.
that funny feeling, is caused nervousness, anxiety, and the very real fear of being dropped and the adrenaline pumping through your spine. a feeling of shock is then added on top of all of that.
you'd be amazed, then, what the mind can do and how much more an ordinary man is capable of when faced with danger. it's all in the mind, meaning that the things most people can do under danger, they can actually do on a regular basis if they convinced themselves of that. but also, pure adrenaline during a frightful/dangerous situation, actually does increase strength and complete alertness, because that's what adrenaline does. helps fight fatigue, and more specifically, muscle fatigue.
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