Do we like Mike?

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repoman0

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Donating to ensure we flush the orange turd seems pretty altruistic to me. Would indirectly and directly improve the lives of many many people and future generations, and only at the expense of the feels of a willfully ignorant zealot base. Pretty efficient use of money.
 
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jmagg

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Donating to ensure we flush the orange turd seems pretty altruistic to me. Would indirectly and directly improve the lives of many many people and future generations, and only at the expense of a willfully ignorant zealot base. Pretty efficient use of money.
Ensure is a strong word. Seems to me a billion in one shot to feed the hungry, would do more to bolster Democratic optics than a shit ton of "Trump bad ads".
 

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I will vote for whoever wins the nom. to oust the constitutional law breaking menace that is Trump. I'm actually leaning Bloomberg over Biden. At this time, I just don't think Warren or Sanders can beat Trump. It seems Bloomberg is conceding the early races; he's competing in the hopes that he can start stealing delegates on Super Tuesday and start gaining momentum from there. TBH, I'm not sure how seriously he takes himself but I'm guessing he's not one to piss away a billion dollars for shits and giggles. For Bloomberg to win, he'd not to deny everyone else the needed delegates to win the nomination and have enough momentum to make the case that he could beat Trump in a general election.

Bloomberg also has the ability to establish his own lane. Aggressive, unapologetic to some progressive causes, but also a capitalist who trusts the marketplace: in the eyes of many Biden voters, he may be more appealing than Sanders and Warren, and in the eyes of Sanders and Warren voters, he's unafraid to take liberal positions.
 
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I think we have a habit of underestimating the likely turnout of Democrat voters in November.
I don't. My state has more registered Ds, but they failed to even bother the last couple of times. If they had, The Don may not have won this state.
 

nickqt

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If it's Bloomberg vs Trump, at least we can discard the myth that this country isn't already up for sale to the highest bidder.
 

Homerboy

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A billion would go a long way towards altruistic purposes.

Would it though? If he spent a billion on getting Bernie/Warren/etc elected, that billion would be multiplied 100s of times on the US Gov't actually spending money on projects and bills that could directly help people - health care, education. the VA, infrastructure etc etc.

If his billion helps getting a progressive presents elected, I can't think of a billion dollars better spent
 
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Didn't Hillary already prove that a billion dollar campaign didn't work? I wonder how many homeless people's lives could be improved by all the money Bloomberg is throwing away. The guy knows he's not gonna win the election, doesn't want to, and just wants to be a disrupting element working to stop Trump, that's it.

ROFLMAO. It's ok bunky, for at least the time being you still have the president that you deserve.
 
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Didn't Hillary already prove that a billion dollar campaign didn't work? I wonder how many homeless people's lives could be improved by all the money Bloomberg is throwing away. The guy knows he's not gonna win the election, doesn't want to, and just wants to be a disrupting element working to stop Trump, that's it.

Per Wikipedia

Through Bloomberg Philanthropies, the billionaire has donated an estimated $8 billion to gun control, climate change and other causes, according to Forbes. Alongside fellow billionaires Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, Bloomberg has signed the Giving Pledge, vowing to donate at least half of his wealth to charity.
 

Moonbeam

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I'll believe that when I see it.
I believe it is typical of conservatives to view others as being motivated by self interest. Being raised as a typical Catholic, for example, and a worthless sinner in need of repentance and the self flagellation, can have that effect. When we have it pounded into us that we are untrustworthy and prone to evil we create what we fear and project it out there on other people.
 

Bitek

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I'll be seriously considering him, but he ain't perfect.

He did a good job in NYC, but the stop and frisk, soda tax and actions to get his 3rd term cause concern for his willingness to overreach.

Otoh, you don't get to be a real billionaire without some fight.

He was mostly pragmatic tho and got things done.

If Joe falters, I see Bloomberg gaining.
Booti is likable, but too young. For a moderate voter, why pick Pete over a proven winner?

I have serious concerns about sending Bernie to the general. He's got a lot of weird statements and others things in his past that's been glossed over.
Prepare for the second coming of Castro attacks once the Rs jump in.

He'll also be savaged for taxes. No one wants more taxes.

He might be a likable guy, but he's an idealist, and none of his big ideas will get done.
Another big fight on healthcare WILL scare the F out of people, won't pass, but will cost D seats.

Otherwise, Warren outplayed herself. It's not over, but it's not looking good. Also not feeling like a winner in Nov. Don't want another Hillary...
 
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I know of one thing Warren was largely responsible for but it has been weakened and beat up since ....

The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

I'd love to see it strengthened into a real regulatory agency that can strike fear into the businesses that like to steal from us. Banks, CC companies and many others need a good swift kick in the nads.
 
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Will we be better off with Bloomie?

Well, we'll be rid of the Spawn (Vanka, Junior and what's his name) at least for a while.

And we might even get a few competent Cabinet Secretaries.
 

HomerJS

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Not that one. The other one. Can he whoop The Don in the Fall?

Are we United For Mike?



I don't particularly care for him, but it's all about tossing the Orange Menace.
My first choice in a vacuum is Mayor Pete. I was going to support Biden because I thought he had the best chance to beat Trump. However Joe's performance hasn't cut it to date.

Bloomberg is a mixed bag. He is a highly competent guy, ran the city well and knows how to punch Trump where he lives. Trump must be treated like a bully and too many Dems have been unwilling to do. However stop and frisk stick in my craw not just because of the policy itself but the timing in renouncing it. He waiting until running for President which smells insincere. Take a look at this clip. Trevor Noah's excellent summary on the effects of stop and frisk on minorities of which I am one.
Not that one. The other one. Can he whoop The Don in the Fall?

Are we United For Mike?



I don't particularly care for him, but it's all about tossing the Orange Menace.
My first choice in a vacuum is Mayor Pete. I was going to support Biden because I thought he had the best chance to beat Trump. However Joe's performance hasn't cut it to date.

Bloomberg is a mixed bag. He is a highly competent guy, ran the city well and knows how to punch Trump where he lives. Trump must be treated like a bully and too many Dems have been unwilling to do. However stop and frisk stick in my craw not just because of the policy itself but the timing in renouncing it. He waiting until running for President which smells insincere. Take a look at this clip. Trevor Noah's excellent summary on the effects of stop and frisk on minorities of which I am one.

Having said that we have someone currently in office who is far worse on these issues and wanted stop and frisk nationwide. Trump is incompetent as fuck, corrupt and is normalizing autocratic rule. If it means getting rid of the orange menace I can hold my nose and vote for Bloomberg.
 
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My first choice in a vacuum is Mayor Pete. I was going to support Biden because I thought he had the best chance to beat Trump. However Joe's performance hasn't cut it to date.

Bloomberg is a mixed bag. He is a highly competent guy, ran the city well and knows how to punch Trump where he lives. Trump must be treated like a bully and too many Dems have been unwilling to do. However stop and frisk stick in my craw not just because of the policy itself but the timing in renouncing it. He waiting until running for President which smells insincere. Take a look at this clip. Trevor Noah's excellent summary on the effects of stop and frisk on minorities of which I am one.

My first choice in a vacuum is Mayor Pete. I was going to support Biden because I thought he had the best chance to beat Trump. However Joe's performance hasn't cut it to date.

Bloomberg is a mixed bag. He is a highly competent guy, ran the city well and knows how to punch Trump where he lives. Trump must be treated like a bully and too many Dems have been unwilling to do. However stop and frisk stick in my craw not just because of the policy itself but the timing in renouncing it. He waiting until running for President which smells insincere. Take a look at this clip. Trevor Noah's excellent summary on the effects of stop and frisk on minorities of which I am one.

Having said that we have someone currently in office who is far worse on these issues and wanted stop and frisk nationwide. Trump is incompetent as fuck, corrupt and is normalizing autocratic rule. If it means getting rid of the orange menace I can hold my nose and vote for Bloomberg.

Homer, I am glad you came here and posted. I remember you mentioning being a minority and was tempted to call you in regarding stop & frisk. I am not the right guy to comment on it because
I don’t live in NY
I’m not the guy who would have been impacted by it
Again thank you for coming here and sharing your thoughts.
I agree my first choices are Bernie or Buttigieg (sort of tied) and until a week or so ago I thought Biden was the likely guy to beat Trump. Appears Biden just doesn’t have it in him to want to compete. Bloomberg does have that fire.
I look at it similarly too. We have a current President that effectively wants stop & frisk nationwide, took out an ad basically saying he wanted death penalty for Central Park 5 which is bad enough on its own merits but he still hasn’t said he was wrong after it was proven the Central Park 5 had nothing to do with the murder. We all know the President would rather 5 innocent men be put to death rather than admit he was wrong.
 
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I would need to see an absolute, iron clad guarantee that the evil shrew thing from Arkansas (yes, Arkansas, not New York) would NOT be allowed any say at all in his Adminstration.