Do we have the right to be racist?

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Originally posted by: Duddy
Black Mason's

White Mason's

Black History Month

The KKK

The Black Panther Party

National Association for the Advancement of White People

The Nation of Islam

BET


How can we put racism behind us if people continue to support these organizations? Why can't we be just "Human"?

Racism is not genetic, it's a philosophy that's tought to children by their parents. If we just, overnight, implemented a law against against events and organizations that segregate, we could see a revolution in this country.

The only remaining problem would be Extreme Islam.

The Black Masons, Black History Month, The Black Panther Party, The Nation of Islam, and BET exist because of the historical racism of the US. If people of African ancestry had not been oppressed then these organizations would not exist because would not have been a need for them.

Please do some research on the history of people of African ancestry in the US.

Why isn't there an outcry about Spanish, Korean, Japanese, and Chinese content dedicated television channels?

If history had been the other way around, and white Europeans had been brought from America to Africa as slaves to black slave masters, and were then subsequently set free and slavery abolished, you'd have the EXACT same kinds of special interest groups for white people over there as we have for blacks in America today. Black people are JUST as capable of racism as white people or ANY other group of people. Racism is a human quality that knows no racial boundaries.

And if one more friggin' Spanish channel pops up in my cable channel lineup I'm going down to the Comcast office with a set of cable cutters and a sledgehammer going to work. Why in the HELL do all the English language American network channels come on channels like 23, 24, 25, 26 and the Spanish channels come on low numbers like 5,6,7,8, and 9? There, happy?

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Of course if you do not believe in God or religion, maybe to you there is no right or wrong.

Or. . .maybe you just don't need an imaginary friend to tell you the difference between what is right and what is wrong.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: joerick

Originally posted by: Duddy

How can we put racism behind us if people continue to support these organizations? Why can't we be just "Human"?

i think racism is the main reason of all wars.

You mean...more so than the lust for money and power?

And why does man seek money and power?
That's right. . .to get that pussy.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
In America you are free to hate anyone you want for any reason.

Yep. As long as it doesnt violate someone else's constitutional rights, youre free to do or say whatever you want. I can freely sit on a sidewalk and throw out racial epitaphs at whomever I want. It isnt against the law. I can refuse to cater to whatever religeous or racial group I want. Violates no one's rights.

That may be but if you are White you can get physically attacked while sitting on a sidewalk and spewing out racial epitaphs and if the attacker is a minority they will more than likely get off scott free.

Hell, most of the time you don't even have to even say the racial epitaphs, they just say you did and they usually get a free pass. So while you maybe within your rights to spew it, it can also invite open season on you will little if any consequences for the attacker.

Repeat after me. . ."epithets." E-P-I-T-H-E-T-S

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
What is wrong with recognizing the accomplishments of a people we have oppressed for centuries? That isn't racism.

And you're out of your fucking mind if you think anyone with half a brain supports the National Association for the Advancement of White People. :roll:

But that's just it. . .I haven't oppressed anyone. I am not part of your "we." I will not be held accountable for the sins of my father's father's father. I am not him. So when you say "we" have oppressed people, I hope you mean yourself and the people in the immediate 5 foot vicinity around you. Because I certainly have never intentionally or knowingly oppressed anybody in my life.

Most of the people who were seriously oppressed or who did the serious oppressing are long dead now. If you are still oppressed in America today, what with as many entitlement programs and special interest groups and advocate groups as there are for non-white minorities out there today, it's because you are letting yourself be oppressed. There is not a single thing out there stopping you but you.

 

[ahurtt]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
What is wrong with recognizing the accomplishments of a people we have oppressed for centuries? That isn't racism.

Nothing wrong with it when we as a whole do it.

However when minorities demand equality for all in every aspect of life then intentionally segregate themselves in their race only events like their own award shows, pageants etc.., have specific race devoted TV networks, movies, or organizations that are dedicated to a specific race it becomes nothing but hypocritical reverse racism.

While I believe that the term "reverse racism" should be permanently eliminated from every person's vocabulary because there quite simply is no such thing, I think you have otherwise hit the nail on the head. You can't ask for total equality on the one hand and then expect special treatment on the other. But racism is racism. There's no such thing as reverse racism. And "hate crime" is another one that really pisses me off. The very existence of the term "hate crime" is the only reason a person can commit a "hate crime." Having such a term only draws attention to the fact that the person who committed the crime was of a different race than the victim. It is a term who's existence serves only to further divide.

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: ahurtt

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
What is wrong with recognizing the accomplishments of a people we have oppressed for centuries? That isn't racism.

Nothing wrong with it when we as a whole do it.

However when minorities demand equality for all in every aspect of life then intentionally segregate themselves in their race only events like their own award shows, pageants etc.., have specific race devoted TV networks, movies, or organizations that are dedicated to a specific race it becomes nothing but hypocritical reverse racism.

While I believe that the term "reverse racism" should be permanently eliminated from every person's vocabulary because there quite simply is no such thing, .

It is just political correctness at work;

I believe the term is used due to all the brainwashing in this country, the whole world for that matter that has allowed Whites to be perceived by most as the only race that can be racist. Likewise most minorities do not see racism against Whites as racism to them it is just legitimate justified hate.

So in order to be politically correct and call it racism with out actually calling them a racist the term reverse racism is applied.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: BrownTown
It also deffinitely IS genetic. Thats not saying you can't stop it, but its hardwired into peoples thought processes, the belief that if you raise a kid away from the world then they won't be predjudiced in any way is BS, you have to train people to NOT be racist not the other way around.

That is total BS. Go to a play ground and watch children around 2 or 3 play. They don?t care about the color or the sex of the person they are playing with. To them a playmate is a playmate.

It isn?t until they get older and are taught racism that they don?t hang out with blacks or Hispanics etc etc.

It has also been proven that people will self segregate themselves when given the chance. Set up a room with a bunch of tables and then introduce a large crowd of people who don?t know each other and ask everyone to pick a table and you will see that people will sit with people similar to them in some way (older people together, younger together, blacks/whites together etc.)

I read a story years ago about a wealthy neighborhood in Atlanta that was nearly all black. These were well to do people that could live any where and decided that they wanted to live with other well to do blacks.

Self imposed segregation eh. I activiely look to live in a prodominantly white neighborhood. But then, that would make me racist...

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: BrownTown
It also deffinitely IS genetic. Thats not saying you can't stop it, but its hardwired into peoples thought processes, the belief that if you raise a kid away from the world then they won't be predjudiced in any way is BS, you have to train people to NOT be racist not the other way around.

That is total BS. Go to a play ground and watch children around 2 or 3 play. They don?t care about the color or the sex of the person they are playing with. To them a playmate is a playmate.

It isn?t until they get older and are taught racism that they don?t hang out with blacks or Hispanics etc etc.

It has also been proven that people will self segregate themselves when given the chance. Set up a room with a bunch of tables and then introduce a large crowd of people who don?t know each other and ask everyone to pick a table and you will see that people will sit with people similar to them in some way (older people together, younger together, blacks/whites together etc.)

I read a story years ago about a wealthy neighborhood in Atlanta that was nearly all black. These were well to do people that could live any where and decided that they wanted to live with other well to do blacks.

Self imposed segregation eh. I activiely look to live in a prodominantly white neighborhood. But then, that would make me racist...

No, wanting to live and be around people like you is natural.

Hating people who are not like you is not.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Cold Steel

Originally posted by: sportage
This gets me about republicans.
In that, if we had slavery today, most republicans and certainly Rush L. would be for it.
Or at least in favor NOT to abolish slavery.

Back in the days of slavery, slaves were wealth.
Owners had a lot invested in them, owned them, slaves were as important as
stocks, your home or car, it was wealth.

I can not believe, in todays world of Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and
their stance against the social security system as we know it, or anything big goverment, that conservative republicans would be for taking away the wealth that owning slaves meant.
It just doesn?t fit conservative republican thinking.

No more than giving up tax cuts to help the poor, or suporting government programs
to favor the less fortunate. Rush would have plenty of reasons not to abolish slavery.

That's just about the dumbest f*cking thing I have ever heard.

QFT.

"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

 

[1prophet]

Originally posted by: Duddy
Black Mason's

White Mason's

Black History Month

The KKK

The Black Panther Party

National Association for the Advancement of White People

The Nation of Islam

BET


How can we put racism behind us if people continue to support these organizations? Why can't we be just "Human"?

Racism is not genetic, it's a philosophy that's tought to children by their parents. If we just, overnight, implemented a law against against events and organizations that segregate, we could see a revolution in this country.

The only remaining problem would be Extreme Islam.

All you would be doing buy outlawing it is force it underground like Tito in Yugoslavia or Sadaam in Iraq and we saw what happened once they were gone. Better to have it out in the open where it can be confronted and the actual underlying causes addressed.

 

[Moonbeam]

With rights come responsibilities. There are no racists that exercise both.

 

[teclis1023]

The problem with outlawing racism is that it's simply a slippery slope. What's racism? Is criticizing Israel racist? Is criticizing black culture racist? It's all subjective.

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: Duddy
Black Mason's

White Mason's

Black History Month

The KKK

The Black Panther Party

National Association for the Advancement of White People

The Nation of Islam

BET


How can we put racism behind us if people continue to support these organizations? Why can't we be just "Human"?

Racism is not genetic, it's a philosophy that's tought to children by their parents. If we just, overnight, implemented a law against against events and organizations that segregate, we could see a revolution in this country.

The only remaining problem would be Extreme Islam.

Everybody has the right to believe. It is not the government's position to enforce peoples' religious, moral, or ethical subscriptions. Only when its violate the constitution does the gov. have the right to prosecute.

It's been proven time and time again that when the central leadership takes the reigns of perspective things go bad. Slippery slope my friend.

I think we need to pass this racism bulls**t and focus on the activities of these groups. CAIR is a blatant financier of anti-Israeli terrorism and promotion, yet they hide behind the racism card and force our bulls**t legal system into submission. Nation of Islam has been funneling money to Islamic terrorist for decades, but they too go unpunished because our politically correct society. Stuff like BET and black history month can at times be unfortunate and slightly unfair, but racist? I think not.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Originally posted by: Duddy
Black Mason's

White Mason's

Black History Month

The KKK

The Black Panther Party

National Association for the Advancement of White People

The Nation of Islam

BET


How can we put racism behind us if people continue to support these organizations? Why can't we be just "Human"?

Racism is not genetic, it's a philosophy that's tought to children by their parents. If we just, overnight, implemented a law against against events and organizations that segregate, we could see a revolution in this country.

The only remaining problem would be Extreme Islam.

The Black Masons, Black History Month, The Black Panther Party, The Nation of Islam, and BET exist because of the historical racism of the US. If people of African ancestry had not been oppressed then these organizations would not exist because would not have been a need for them.

Please do some research on the history of people of African ancestry in the US.

Why isn't there an outcry about Spanish, Korean, Japanese, and Chinese content dedicated television channels?

Uh then how do you explain the KKK, lots of whites being oppressed by blacks or something? No offense but those organizations would be erected regardless of how people were treated. Because there are racists in all races and they like to get together to strokes each others rascist thought processes.

The KKK came into existence, after the Civil War, to oppress through terror the one time slaves who had just gotten the right to vote and thus political power.

Please do some research in the history of US!

BTW, are the Girl Scouts and YWCA sexist organizations?

 

[teclis1023]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
The Black Masons, Black History Month, The Black Panther Party, The Nation of Islam, and BET exist because of the historical racism of the US. If people of African ancestry had not been oppressed then these organizations would not exist because would not have been a need for them.

Please do some research on the history of people of African ancestry in the US.

Why isn't there an outcry about Spanish, Korean, Japanese, and Chinese content dedicated television channels?

Whether they arose from racism or not doesn't have any impact on an organization's own merits. I don't believe that Black History Month is racist at all, but the NOI, the Black Panthers and even BET? The Black Panthers advocated violent means to achieve not only black equality, but black supremacy. The NOI continues to rail out against gays, whites and Jews, and BET operates in a manner that continues to perpetuate stereotypes about black people. Some could argue that the BET is racist against blacks...

Without turning this into a Barack plug, I am absolutely glad that Obama is one of the frontrunners for POTUSA. I believe that hopefully he will be able to set a new example for what black success in America can be, and will pull that notion away from being gangsters and thugs, and put it into community service and law. Yet even by many black communities, he is decried as being 'too white.' What a sad state of affairs.

 

[Pabster]

Sure you have the right to be racist.

And I have the right to call you on it.

 

[Eeezee]

You have a right to be racist so long as that right doesn't infringe on another's freedom to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

If you're a racist employer, you have that right (under current law, you just can't publicly state as much).

You do not have a right to assault someone, demean someone, etc. as a consequence of your racism. You can think whatever you want. It's your actions that are restricted.