Do we have enough race threads? Drexel University Controversy

[agent00f]

Whaaaaaat? I'm insecure about telling low hanging fruit jokes?

Trying to explain a terribly misshapen dick joke only makes people think you're even dumber.

 

[desura]

The alt right uses the term "white genocide" in reference to interracial marriage. I can't imagine why they would object to interracial marriage. It makes no sense, it is better for the gene pool and objectively better fitted humans would be the result.

I don't think this is true. While interracial marriage is a component of it, "white genocide" is really more about government policies designed to make america less white, and which disadvantage the majority (white) culture.

Now, I think terms like "white genocide" are ridiculous and they show a narrow paranoia. You have to leave America to see what a non-white society is like, or visit certain enclaves of America, to see how really things can be different. But still. There definitely is a hostile attitude that many leftists adopt which vilifies the majority white culture, one that is pretty inappropriate. This guy looks like he holds this sort of attitude.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

The prof is a literal commie and admirer of Hugo Chavez's Venezuela. Even by liberal university professor standards, this guy is a moonbat. Not really representative of normal liberal sentiment. Doesn't stop the right-wing from thinking he's important just as the left-wing does the same for Richard Spencer.

 

[Double Trouble]

If i had a kid attending or thinking about attending that school I'd yank them in a second. I don't need my to have my money go towards "education" from trash like that professor. Replace "white" with any other ethnic group and he would have been fired long ago. He should be fired, not for saying somehing that offends someone, but for doing somehing that casts his employer in an extremely negative light.

Seriously, how does a dumbass like that get to teach students??

 

[desura]

The prof is a literal commie and admirer of Hugo Chavez's Venezuela. Even by liberal university professor standards, this guy is a moonbat. Not really representative of normal liberal sentiment. Doesn't stop the right-wing from thinking he's important just as the left-wing does the same for Richard Spencer.

Meh. This guy is a nobody but the fact that this sort of person is tolerated by the university shows what is wrong with most humanities departments. He isn't equivalent to Spencer...closest left wing equivalent to Spencer would be...probably Ta Nehasi Coates. Spencer probably will be quite influential in the next two decades.

 

[agent00f]

The prof is a literal commie and admirer of Hugo Chavez's Venezuela. Even by liberal university professor standards, this guy is a moonbat. Not really representative of normal liberal sentiment. Doesn't stop the right-wing from thinking he's important just as the left-wing does the same for Richard Spencer.

You sure about that?:

Meh. This guy is a nobody but the fact that this sort of person is tolerated by the university shows what is wrong with most humanities departments. He isn't equivalent to Spencer...closest left wing equivalent to Spencer would be...probably Ta Nehasi Coates. Spencer probably will be quite influential in the next two decades.

 

[MajinCry]

If you could turn back time and bring along an army's worth of modern weapons and armor, I take it you would be fine with Africans, Chinese, Indians, Persians, etc committing total genocide of the British?

Genocide almost inherently entails rape btw, but I guess it's counter-rape so that's OK.

Nope. Bit projecty there. I'd be happy with them just keeping out the oppressive slavers from their land. Same gig with the Native Americans; keeping the invaders away is a-ok.

It's rather peculiar that you jumped straight to genocide, by and by.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

We all see as bad or worse almost every day here in these forums, why the surprise?

 

[desura]

If i had a kid attending or thinking about attending that school I'd yank them in a second. I don't need my to have my money go towards "education" from trash like that professor. Replace "white" with any other ethnic group and he would have been fired long ago. He should be fired, not for saying somehing that offends someone, but for doing somehing that casts his employer in an extremely negative light.

Seriously, how does a dumbass like that get to teach students??

Eh, all humanities departments are filled with guys like this.

Drexel is a great science and engineering school. Definitely a waste for humanities, so if your kid decides that he wants humanities from Drexel, even without this guy, I'd yank him cuz it isn't worth the money.

How does this happen? Basically Vietnam war and the college deferments created a generation of whiners who hated America and vilified it. Because they were hiding In school to avoid the draft. This made academia much more left wing, to the point left wing is the establishment of these institutions now. I mean, Bill Ayers was an actual bomb planting terrorist and now he is a very influential college professor.

 

[MajinCry]

If i had a kid attending or thinking about attending that school I'd yank them in a second. I don't need my to have my money go towards "education" from trash like that professor. Replace "white" with any other ethnic group and he would have been fired long ago. He should be fired, not for saying somehing that offends someone, but for doing somehing that casts his employer in an extremely negative light.

Seriously, how does a dumbass like that get to teach students??

You do know that the term "White Genocide" has a completely different connotation? It's propaganda espoused by righties. Hell, I do believe that Blue Max made a bit of a fuss over it.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/White_extinction_scenario

I'm sure you've happened across the youtube comments that go along the lines of: "Immigration is PC code for WHITE GENOCIDE", after all.

 

[desura]

Nope. Bit projecty there. I'd be happy with them just keeping out the oppressive slavers from their land. Same gig with the Native Americans; keeping the invaders away is a-ok.

It's rather peculiar that you jumped straight to genocide, by and by.

Eh, I think North America is much better for having European settlement. Native americans are like another axis of political correctness, 95% of the time they're brought up it is to vilify America.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Holy god you are sensitive little children.

We were for PC before we were against it!

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Meh. This guy is a nobody but the fact that this sort of person is tolerated by the university shows what is wrong with most humanities departments. He isn't equivalent to Spencer...closest left wing equivalent to Spencer would be...probably Ta Nehasi Coates. Spencer probably will be quite influential in the next two decades.

I don't see anything objectionable in what he said from an employment standpoint. His initial tweet seemed like a joke and not a serious support of racial genocide, his following one had a relevant historical context and wasn't any more offensive than one of us saying "I'm glad my ancestors colonized America" (because I certainly am).

Richard Spencer is going to take the baton from David Duke. He's photogenic and has a confident voice, making him great for TV, and he's also an open advocate of racism willing to attach himself to any political movement that furthers his goals. CNN/MSNBC should get a ton of mileage out of him. I'm not familiar with this Coates fellow, but browsing his Wikipedia page I don't see anything that makes him comparable.

Nope. Bit projecty there. I'd be happy with them just keeping out the oppressive slavers from their land. Same gig with the Native Americans; keeping the invaders away is a-ok.

It's rather peculiar that you jumped straight to genocide, by and by.

This is a thread about a statement on genocide, and slavery is very closely related to genocide. What do you think this discussion is about?

 

[MajinCry]

Eh, I think North America is much better for having European settlement. Native americans are like another axis of political correctness, 95% of the time they're brought up it is to vilify America.

Well, America did commit genocide upon them, and continues to persecute them. Hell, America had and Canada both had those rape dungeon-Achem, reservation schools, where the Government abducted Native American children, proceeding to sexually enslave, rape, torture and experiment upon. See this: http://www.amnestyusa.org/node/87342

And there's the whole rape thing, with non-Native Americans being >70% of the perpetrators.
See this: https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/aic.pdf

According to the initial sex slavers of the Native Americans, their cultures were diverse, but had a common theme of war being fought over personal injustices (rape, murder) rather than over shinies. And when they first arrived, the Native Americans were all too happy to share and mingle. Howard Zinn covered it in his book: http://www.thegoyslife.com/Documents/Books/A People's History of the United States- Howard Zinn.pdf


How can you say that North America is all the better for having the original inhabitants all but wiped out? How do you know it would have turned out worse if, instead of sex slavery, genocide and slaughter, we enacted trade and education?

Ya don't. The answer is "I like how it turned out, so I don't want it to be any different".

 

[desura]

I don't see anything objectionable in what he said from an employment standpoint. His initial tweet seemed like a joke and not a serious support of racial genocide, his following one had a relevant historical context and wasn't any more offensive than one of us saying "I'm glad my ancestors colonized America" (because I certainly am).

Richard Spencer is going to take the baton from David Duke. He's photogenic and has a confident voice, making him great for TV, and he's also an open advocate of racism willing to attach himself to any political movement that furthers his goals. CNN/MSNBC should get a ton of mileage out of him. I'm not familiar with this Coates fellow, but browsing his Wikipedia page I don't see anything that makes him comparable.



This is a thread about a statement on genocide, and slavery is very closely related to genocide. What do you think this discussion is about?

I said earlier, simply the fact that he is a public face of the university, and that he dwells on this outlier extremism. I get that it was satire, but it was inappropriate to display this sort of mocking attitude.

Coates recently interviewed Obama. He drove much of the hard left turn of the D party which has now gotten them in a ditch. He is very influential in a destructive way.

 

[MajinCry]

This is a thread about a statement on genocide, and slavery is very closely related to genocide. What do you think this discussion is about?

You're being dense on purpose. Fuckin' woo.

You said:

If you could turn back time and bring along an army's worth of modern weapons and armor, I take it you would be fine with Africans, Chinese, Indians, Persians, etc committing total genocide of the British?

Genocide almost inherently entails rape btw, but I guess it's counter-rape so that's OK.

In response to my being A-OK with the overthrowing of slaver overlords. Let's take baby steps to show why that's retarded.

An enslaved ethnic group -> Slaughter the British enslavers -> I deem that to be morally just -> Ergo, you say that I think all British people should be killed.

Now, unless all British people are slavers, I'd be against that. And clearly, a substantial number of them aren't. Things might be different in America, but over here, I guess we're just that much more moral if this was an effort of projection on your part.

 

[desura]

Well, America did commit genocide upon them, and continues to persecute them. Hell, America had and Canada both had those rape dungeon-Achem, reservation schools, where the Government abducted Native American children, proceeding to sexually enslave, rape, torture and experiment upon. See this: http://www.amnestyusa.org/node/87342

And there's the whole rape thing, with non-Native Americans being >70% of the perpetrators.
See this: https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/aic.pdf

According to the initial sex slavers of the Native Americans, their cultures were diverse, but had a common theme of war being fought over personal injustices (rape, murder) rather than over shinies. And when they first arrived, the Native Americans were all too happy to share and mingle. Howard Zinn covered it in his book: http://www.thegoyslife.com/Documents/Books/A People's History of the United States- Howard Zinn.pdf


How can you say that North America is all the better for having the original inhabitants all but wiped out? How do you know it would have turned out worse if, instead of sex slavery, genocide and slaughter, we enacted trade and education?

Ya don't. The answer is "I like how it turned out, so I don't want it to be any different".

Meh, I really don't care. people who pound this drum have in mind some distant utopia which never existed and never could exist. Zinn was more expressing his hatred of having served in WWII than anything objective. It is supremely biased. He also liked the Confederacy.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

You're being dense on purpose. Fuckin' woo.

You said:



In response to my being A-OK with the overthrowing of slaver overlords. Let's take baby steps to show why that's retarded.

An enslaved ethnic group -> Slaughter the British enslavers -> I deem that to be morally just -> Ergo, you say that I think all British people should be killed.

Now, unless all British people are slavers, I'd be against that. And clearly, a substantial number of them aren't. Things might be different in America, but over here, I guess we're just that much more moral if this was an effort of projection on your part.

Are you not aware that the Haitians made a specific policy of killing every French person on the island? Not just slavers, but also white men of other means of employment, as well as women and children.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

The best part of this is to see the lefties trying to justify the racism.

 

[desura]

Are you not aware that the Haitians made a specific policy of killing every French person on the island? Not just slavers, but also white men of other means of employment, as well as women and children.

Yeah, such attitudes actually are why apartheid regimes get implemented in the first place, over real and legitimate fears of slaughter. The genius of Nelson Mandela, really Christianity, is paving a way for coexistence.

But it is more edgy and cool to justify murder of white oppressors. Like an ironic hipster this guy is.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Yeah, such attitudes actually are why apartheid regimes get implemented in the first place, over real and legitimate fears of slaughter. The genius of Nelson Mandela, really Christianity, is paving a way for coexistence.

But it is more edgy and cool to justify murder of white oppressors. Like an ironic hipster this guy is.

Pretty much every major change of government is associated with mass murder. It's nice to pretend otherwise, but drastic actions are required for drastic change. The tree of liberty and blood of tyrants, etc etc.

 

[desura]

Pretty much every major change of government is associated with mass murder. It's nice to pretend otherwise, but drastic actions are required for drastic change. The tree of liberty and blood of tyrants, etc etc.

I think that various civilizations solved the problem of internal instability in various ways. Confucianism emphasized obedience. Islam emphasized unity. Christianity emphasized willing surrender.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Have to get your mom to take then out of her mouth first.

See, now I'm not making a deprecating joke about myself. He was trying to make a joke about me being in fear, and having to clasp my testicles, so I shifted it to say that before I could do that I would have to get his mom to take them out of her mouth. Everyone following?

Clasp your testicles what?!!! Dude, WTF are you babbling on about?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Eh, I think North America is much better for having European settlement. Native americans are like another axis of political correctness, 95% of the time they're brought up it is to vilify America.

Educate yourself

Here's a good place to start

http://nctr.ca/reports.php

 

[Mai72]

Was he fired?

If I were an incoming student I would cancel my class with this professor. In fact, incoming students should hit the college where it hurts. Right in their pocketbook. Cancel classes. Refuse to even step foot on campus until he's fired.